Help me find the best e-cig fitting this criteria:

[charlie310]

So, I've been vaping for over a month with the Volt (KR808-D1). So far, I am not really liking my experience. The cartomizers always get burnt even after refilling liquid constantly and rotating 5 cartomizers for each draw.

What I'm looking for is very simple:
1. E-Cig setup that doesn't taste like crap.
2. E-Cig that doesn't require constant maintenance (like the Volt and Volt Cartomizers do).

I've been researching tanks for the Volt, but there doesn't seem to be any that are almost guaranteed to work well. All the products seem to be flawed in some way. I'm honestly getting sick of this, and I am shocked that these have been out for so long; yet, there are still many that don't even work as advertised. Rotating 5 cartomizers and refilling liquid constantly, and still getting that nasty burnt taste is unacceptable. I'm so sick of it, I've now started to use the Nicorrette mints. At least, these are consistent with none of the hassel.

 

[Warningsigns]

Does size of the e-cig matter to you? What kind of battery life are you looking for? Do you have a price range you're looking to stay within?

Also, cartomizers are disposable. Once they are burnt, you're better off throwing them in the garbage. How long have you been using each cartomizer?

Hopefully with more information someone here can help you out.

 

[Krispers]

Ok the 'taste like crap' THAT all depends on what juice you get, and what voltage and ohms yada yada. *stuff you will learn eventually.....Ecigs makes everyone a electrician*

But If you get a 3.7 v device a carto is really maintenance free, and for that you have a few options. 1st) boge 2.0 carto's which mostly all ecig companies sell. 2nd) a 1.7 smoktech. The smoktech are longer, hold more juice and give a warmer vapor than the 2.0 ohm. Plus with either one of those options, you have also added option of Tanks.

Tanks are really the BEST option since you are rotating 5 cartos. I refill my tank once a night usually.

 

[OnnaB]

I'm not certain there is a PV that is no maintenance. If you have the money, I suppose you could just buy filled carto's and toss when empty. I have an eGo 650maH: 2 bats (each lasts about 8hrs on a charge), and for now I'm using Clearomizers. They are small tanks that hold liquid and don't use filler material. If you like strong (cinnamon, fruity) liquids, not all clearomizers will stand up to them. Remember, this technology is still pretty new, and too many people are trying to block their use altogether. Progress is being made...it just takes some time. Good luck...keep trying!

 

[charlie310]

Does size of the e-cig matter to you? What kind of battery life are you looking for? Do you have a price range you're looking to stay within?

Also, cartomizers are disposable. Once they are burnt, you're better off throwing them in the garbage. How long have you been using each cartomizer?

Hopefully with more information someone here can help you out.

My only criteria is what I stated above; so size doesn't matter, battery life doesnt' matter (I can always buy 2 or 3), price doesn't matter.

Ok the 'taste like crap' THAT all depends on what juice you get, and what voltage and ohms yada yada. *stuff you will learn eventually.....Ecigs makes everyone a electrician*

But If you get a 3.7 v device a carto is really maintenance free, and for that you have a few options. 1st) boge 2.0 carto's which mostly all ecig companies sell. 2nd) a 1.7 smoktech. The smoktech are longer, hold more juice and give a warmer vapor than the 2.0 ohm. Plus with either one of those options, you have also added option of Tanks.

Tanks are really the BEST option since you are rotating 5 cartos. I refill my tank once a night usually.

I found e-liquid flavors I like (I tried like 15 different ones), so the "taste like crap" means the cartomizer is burnt. I find that I burn cartomizers very easily, which adds to the cost of vaping.

Honestly, I would rather not learn enough to be an electrician. No offense, but I just want to get my nicotine. A lot of people here have made it sorta like a hobby (which is fine), but I have too many hobbies as it is and I can't take on another one.

Can you refer me to some products? Sorry, I don't understand the "ECF" jargon. Are you referring to an eGO? Should I just try the kr808-d1 tanks they sell at vapeforlife?

 

[Krispers]

if your getting the burnt, then yes. its the wrong ohms for whatever you are using.

so to give referrals, if you use Boge 510 Low resistance Cartomizer - Stainless - 5 Pack with a tank, you can use any 3.7 volt battery/mod. so e-Power 18650 3.7v or even Blue Diamond.

You just need to make sure you stick with a mod that says 3.7. then the cartos if it says Low Resistance, it will work GREAT combo.

 

[Dana A]

I think you should try a KGO or an EPower. They can use tanks and have a longer battery life. If you want to go all the way try a lava tube or a Provari. They can really customize your vape and you can use tanks with both.

 

[Caridwen]

If price and size don't matter but you don't like to re-fill, perhaps look into liquid feed APV's.

Liquid Feed APV Discussion

 

[sailorman]

Do your cartos taste burnt right out of the pack when they're new?
Or, do they taste burnt after they've been used and maybe refilled?
Once you allow a carto to get dry enough to burn, that's it. It's done. No amount of refilling, resting or rotating will make it taste not-burnt.
I'm just asking because you talked about rotating cartos like maybe you thought they were overheating and needed a cool-down period.
If they all were ever allowed to dry enough to scorch, they'll all taste burned forever.

There really is no more maintenance free e-cig than a Volt. It puts out enough voltage, as much as any larger fixed-voltage PV. The problem you're having is with the cartomizers alone. If you get another PV that uses tanks, you still have to deal with cartomizers. You don't have to refill them as often, but it can be tricky to get them set up just right so that they don't flood or get dry. If you're having trouble with plain cartomizers, I can't see how you're going to have much success with a cartomizer tank.

You might do better with a kGo or e-Power with a clearomizer. The only one I've found that doesn't need any tweaks or modification is the Fluxomizers from Gotvapes. You can use them right out of the box. The only caveat is that you will need a blunt tipped syringe or a needle tipped bottle to fill them. But they give great flavor and there's no guesswork about how much juice you have left. There is no filler to burn. Worst case is that you may have to give tip it horizontally now and then when the juice level is low so you don't get a dry hit.

Both of those PVs are trouble free and no hassle. Or, you can use the 2.4-2.6 ohm Fluxomizers on a Volt battery. They're about the same resistance as the standard Volt cartridge and they have them to fit 808 batteries.

 

[charlie310]

if your getting the burnt, then yes. its the wrong ohms for whatever you are using.

so to give referrals, if you use Boge 510 Low resistance Cartomizer - Stainless - 5 Pack with a tank, you can use any 3.7 volt battery/mod. so e-Power 18650 3.7v or even Blue Diamond.

You just need to make sure you stick with a mod that says 3.7. then the cartos if it says Low Resistance, it will work GREAT combo.

I've been using the Volt e-cig with Volt Cartomizers. You sure the company (smokeless image) would pair up the wrong cartomizers with their e-cigs?

Also, are you saying I should use the Boge Cartomizers with the tank? I always thought it was either/or.

Thanks for the links, BTW.

 

[sailorman]

if your getting the burnt, then yes. its the wrong ohms for whatever you are using....

He's using the Volt cartomizers. No way it's the wrong ohms. Somewhere along the line, they got too dry and the filler got scorched.

If you don't want to deal with the possibility of filler material scorching, you can't be using tanks with cartomizers in them or any kind of cartomizer with filler material in it. Your only alternative is a clearomizer of some type. It can be a tank that uses an internal clearomizer system, like a CE4+ or the Acorn tank, or a Vivi Nova. Or you can just use a CE2 type clearomizer that's the same size as a cartomizer, like a Fluxomizer.

 

[lam7]

Charlie - i'm with you on this one. I don't mind refilling, but have been getting the burnt polyfill taste rather quickly. Not right away, but definitely not long after i start vaping. Maybe i just ahve a bunch of bad carts. It would be nice if they made something that could just screw on an 808 batt that you could fill with liquid without having an engineering degree...

So...something as simple to fill as cartos, that's shaped like a carto (don't mind if it's longer, but don't want it to be fatter than batt), and that you don't need to follow an 8-step guide to open up and fill.

 

[sailorman]

I've been using the Volt e-cig with Volt Cartomizers. You sure the company (smokeless image) would pair up the wrong cartomizers with their e-cigs?

Also, are you saying I should use the Boge Cartomizers with the tank? I always thought it was either/or.

Thanks for the links, BTW.

No, SI would not pair up the wrong cartomizer with their e-cig. Not a chance.
There are basically two types of tanks. The most common type uses a cartomizer inside, with a hole punched in it. Liquid seeps into that hole from the tank, which holds more liquid than the cartomizer alone could hold.

The other type has it's own internal coil. That is a Clearomizer tank. It's usually called a CE2 type tank. SI has one that fits on the X2 batteries. It is similar to the tanks called CE4+ or "Stardust" tanks for the eGos, kGos and similar e-cigs.

If you go here: GotVapes™ Tanks : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more, you will see both types of tanks. The Vision Stone tanks and the Vivi Nova tanks are examples of the clearomizer tanks. The DCT tanks are the ones you put a cartomizer inside of.

 

[Krispers]

I've been using the Volt e-cig with Volt Cartomizers. You sure the company (smokeless image) would pair up the wrong cartomizers with their e-cigs?

Also, are you saying I should use the Boge Cartomizers with the tank? I always thought it was either/or.

Thanks for the links, BTW.

im not saying they gave you wrong carto HOWEVER not all cartos are consistent. SO just a example, I buy a carto thats 1.7 ohm. I've had it read as 1.4, or even go up to 2.3. And as some say 'you may have got a bad patch' period. For me boge cartos are more consistant. You may even have a battery thats putting out too much voltage thats burning your juice. But you can use boge carto's WITH a tank, you put a hole in the carto put the tank on and boom you ready to fill.

I started out with a eGo battery, and basically battery always went dead and I went to more tube mods. Tube mods are the way to go in my opinion. They last a LOT longer between charges, and when you put a tank on.....it dont stick out like a sore thumb

http://www.parkesvaping.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82_60&product_id=144 is a tank im speaking of, that 'type' of tank. which Im sure you can visualize on a volt....would just be sticking out

 

[sailorman]

Charlie - i'm with you on this one. I don't mind refilling, but have been getting the burnt polyfill taste rather quickly. Not right away, but definitely not long after i start vaping. Maybe i just ahve a bunch of bad carts. It would be nice if they made something that could just screw on an 808 batt that you could fill with liquid without having an engineering degree...

So...something as simple to fill as cartos, that's shaped like a carto (don't mind if it's longer, but don't want it to be fatter than batt), and that you don't need to follow an 8-step guide to open up and fill.

Your wish is my command. Squirt the liquid in with a syring or needle tipped bottle. Put the drip tip on . Vape. Quicker than a cartomizer to fill, and they fit a KR808 e-cig.
FLüXomizer™ KR808 Clearomizers : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[charlie310]

Do your cartos taste burnt right out of the pack when they're new?
Or, do they taste burnt after they've been used and maybe refilled?
Once you allow a carto to get dry enough to burn, that's it. It's done. No amount of refilling, resting or rotating will make it taste not-burnt.
I'm just asking because you talked about rotating cartos like maybe you thought they were overheating and needed a cool-down period.
If they all were ever allowed to dry enough to scorch, they'll all taste burned forever.

There really is no more maintenance free e-cig than a Volt. It puts out enough voltage, as much as any larger fixed-voltage PV. The problem you're having is with the cartomizers alone. If you get another PV that uses tanks, you still have to deal with cartomizers. You don't have to refill them as often, but it can be tricky to get them set up just right so that they don't flood or get dry. If you're having trouble with plain cartomizers, I can't see how you're going to have much success with a cartomizer tank.

You might do better with a kGo or e-Power with a clearomizer. The only one I've found that doesn't need any tweaks or modification is the Fluxomizers from Gotvapes. You can use them right out of the box. The only caveat is that you will need a blunt tipped syringe or a needle tipped bottle to fill them. But they give great flavor and there's no guesswork about how much juice you have left. There is no filler to burn. Worst case is that you may have to give tip it horizontally now and then when the juice level is low so you don't get a dry hit.

Both of those PVs are trouble free and no hassle. Or, you should be able to get a 808/510 adapter and use the 2.4-2.6 ohm Fluxomizers on a Volt battery. They're about the same resistance as the standard Volt cartridge.

The burnt taste is not the filling that gets burned, it's the nylon cylinder that separates the wick from the filling that is getting singed (it's not a strong burnt taste, it's a slight burnt after-taste).

I rotate 5 different cartomizers because someone here recommended I do that to prevent the nylon cylinder from getting easily singed. I do know that "once burnt, it's done". That's why I've been spending more on e-cigs than I did on regular cigs.

I am pretty sure I'm not leaving the cartomizers too dry. The driest they will ever get is: I take about 16 draws from each newly refilled cartomizer during my work breaks (I take about 4 breaks). Of course, this is not 16 draws from one cartomizer, it's 16 draws from 4 cartomizers which = 4 draws from each cartomizer. Please note that these cartomizers are always refilled from the previous night, so they are full of e-liquid.

 

[sailorman]

The burnt taste is not the filling that gets burned, it's the nylon cylinder that separates the wick from the filling that is getting singed (it's not a strong burnt taste, it's a slight burnt after-taste).

I rotate 5 different cartomizers because someone here recommended I do that to prevent the nylon cylinder from getting easily singed. I do know that "once burnt, it's done". That's why I've been spending more on e-cigs than I did on regular cigs.

I am pretty sure I'm not leaving the cartomizers too dry. The driest they will ever get is: I take about 16 draws from each newly refilled cartomizer during my work breaks (I take about 4 breaks). Of course, this is not 16 draws from one cartomizer, it's 16 draws from 4 cartomizers which = 4 draws from each cartomizer. Please note that these cartomizers are always refilled from the previous night, so they are full of e-liquid.

That's the first I've ever heard of that problem. I assume these are pre-filled by SI? I'd get with their customer service and send them back. If it's only been happening on one pack, you couldn've gotten defective cartos.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't worry about changing e-cigs when the e-cig is not the issue. If you can't find a carto you like, it won't matter what e-cig you put it on. That'll only confuse the issue.

Again, not wanting to sound like a commercial, but you need to try the Fluxomizers. They're the same size as a regular cartomizer and there's nothing inside of them to scorch or burn. The resistance is perfect for the Volt, and they'll fit on 808 e-cigs. They also last a long time and you can clean them and refill them multiple times without leaking or cracking.

 

[panhandleguy]

Wish I could offer some help/advice.

I am having the same problems as you, and will be following this thread with interest.

 

[charlie310]

That's the first I've ever heard of that problem. I assume these are pre-filled by SI? I'd get with their customer service and send them back. If it's only been happening on one pack, you couldn've gotten defective cartos.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't worry about changing e-cigs when the e-cig is not the issue. If you can't find a carto you like, it won't matter what e-cig you put it on. That'll only confuse the issue.

Again, not wanting to sound like a commercial, but you need to try the Fluxomizers. They're the same size as a regular cartomizer and there's nothing inside of them to scorch or burn. The resistance is perfect for the Volt, and they'll fit on 808 e-cigs. They also last a long time and you can clean them and refill them multiple times without leaking or cracking.

Thanks a bunch, they will be my next purchase. Just not sure what omhs I should get.

Regarding the burning nylon thingy, it is very common.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...us-510-kr808-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html

For me, it usually happens after 50 draws. I've taken apart about 15 cartomizers that have gone bad, and in every instance, only the nylon cylinder got burnt. The filling and the cloth that surrounds the cylinder were fine. There was one cartomizer I took apart that was scorched (filling and everything), but I knew it was scorched because the taste I was getting was a much stronger burnt taste.

I've wasted alot of e-liquid too, because 99% of the cartomizers I've taken apart were almost full of e-liquid.

 

[sailorman]

You want to get the 2.4-2.6 ohm Fluxos. They are the ones that most closely match the resistance of the SI cartos.

I was aware of the problem with burning filler material. That's been going on for years and probably what spurred the development of clearomizers. It sounded like a different material of your carto was getting burnt. Those SI cartos are Kanger horizontal coils cartos and they're built a little differently than the Boges, Smoketchs and other brands. I hadn't heard of any real problem with them burning. But any filled carto can burn or scorch.