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[charlie310]

Wanted to add, I think only some people are able to taste the burnt nylon cylinder. It also depends on what flavor e-liquid you use, as I can definitely taste it more with "classic grape" vs "vanilla". Also note that the picture in the burning cartomizer thread above show where the cloth that wraps the cylinder is burnt. Only the nylon cylinder gets burnt with mine. I guess I have really sensitive taste buds where I can taste it when most cannot.

 

[02SS0384]

Charlie,
I'm by no means an expert, I'm just a noob like you but I can share my own experience. I started out with a KR808 as well and found the battery like was too short. I recently got a KGO and I'm pretty happy with it so far, a charge will last all day. I finally settled in on Boge LR carto's, they seem to work the best for me. The only problem I have with them is refilling them so often and the dry hit when their empty. This week I got in some EGO Vision Stardusts V2 which have been working great, they last me all day and you can see exactly how much juice is left. So my recomendation...get a KGO kit (Includes two PV's), Boge LR Carto's, some Stardusts and your favorite juice and be done with it. I went with Dark City Vapor because their KGO has no logo's on it, but you can get the kit from various venders.

 

[sailorman]

I agree. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. I was more familiar with the problem that's in the pictures. Everyone notices that kind of burning. I hadn't heard of anyone having a problem with the nylon cylinder burning. It probably happens more often than people realize. That said, you probably can't expect to get 50 puffs from a carto without topping it off. Not refilling it, just adding a half dozen drops into it. That's where a drip tip comes in handy so you don't have to pull the little rubber plug on the end. When I used cartos, I'd drip 5-10 drops in there every 15-20 minutes or so, or whenever I noticed the vapor getting weaker.

 

[Mata]

cartoms last a week, you still can use them longer but it's not worth it.
the burn taste could be because they weren't filled right the first time...the right procedure is to remove the white plastic cup and fill them slowly until you see a drop leaking from the little hole at the bottom. at that point blow into that hole (not too hard) to remove the excess liquid and you are ready to go
and don't allow them to get too dry...

 

[sailorman]

Charlie,
I'm by no means an expert, I'm just a noob like you but I can share my own experience. I started out with a KR808 as well and found the battery like was too short. I recently got a KGO and I'm pretty happy with it so far, a charge will last all day. I finally settled in on Boge LR carto's, they seem to work the best for me. The only problem I have with them is refilling them so often and the dry hit when their empty. This week I got in some EGO Vision Stardusts V2 which have been working great, they last me all day and you can see exactly how much juice is left. So my recomendation...get a KGO kit (Includes two PV's), Boge LR Carto's, some Stardusts and your favorite juice and be done with it. I went with Dark City Vapor because their KGO has no logo's on it, but you can get the kit from various venders.

If he's o.k. with the battery life, that should be the next step. The Fluxomizers are made similarly to the Stardusts, but they'll fit a 808 battery. The Stardusts only fit eGos, so he'd be buing a new PV just to use a clearomizer he might not even like. Not everyone loves them and they have their own issues. For $10, he can get a feel of what a clearomizer is and if it meets his needs. If he likes them, and decides the Volt battery is too short-lived, he can get a $3 adapter and use them on a kGo if he still has any left.

 

[charlie310]

I agree. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. I was more familiar with the problem that's in the pictures. Everyone notices that kind of burning. I hadn't heard of anyone having a problem with the nylon cylinder burning. It probably happens more often than people realize. That said, you probably can't expect to get 50 puffs from a carto without topping it off. Not refilling it, just adding a half dozen drops into it. That's where a drip tip comes in handy so you don't have to pull the little rubber plug on the end. When I used cartos, I'd drip 5-10 drops in there every 15-20 minutes or so, or whenever I noticed the vapor getting weaker.

I refill my cartomizers enough so that the filling never burns (I use 6 different cartomizers a day, and I refill each of them at least 3 times a day). I think the nylon cylinder burning is just inevitable. I guess I just notice it more than others. I'll definitely try the fluxomizers, but those also appear to have nylon cylinders in them. I just hope those don't get burnt.

 

[sailorman]

cartoms last a week, you still can use them longer but it's not worth it.
the burn taste could be because they weren't filled right the first time...the right procedure is to remove the white plastic cup and fill them slowly until you see a drop leaking from the little hole at the bottom. at that point blow into that hole (not too hard) to remove the excess liquid and you are ready to go
and don't allow them to get too dry...

He's been using pre-filled cartos from Smokeless Image, from what I understand. I'm not entirely sure they were being topped off frequently enough though. What you just described is correct if he was filling them from empty, or re-filling them completely. It sounds to me like they just got too dry between refills. They really shouldn't ever need to be refilled. They need to be topped off a little bit at a time and kept almost full all the time.

 

[sailorman]

I refill my cartomizers enough so that the filling never burns (I use 6 different cartomizers a day, and I refill each of them at least 3 times a day). I think the nylon cylinder burning is just inevitable. I guess I just notice it more than others. I'll definitely try the fluxomizers, but those also appear to have nylon cylinders in them. I just hope those don't get burnt.

No, they have braided wicks that transport the fluid up to the coil that sits in a ceramic cup near the top. There is nothing in there to burn. The coil is isolated by the ceramic cup and covered by a silicone cap. It's only really in contact with the wick, which doesn't burn.

Don't forget, you will need a syringe or a bottle with a needle tip. You can't fill them by just dropping fluid in with a dropper bottle unless it has a very thin needle tip. You can get the stuff to fill them cheap there on the site.

 

[jersey girl]

gotvapes also sells the stardust for 808 threaded batteries. So you do have other choices in 808.

It took me a long time to realize that I must keep my cartomizer wet or it burns. Put a drip tip on it so you can easily check to see if it is getting dry.

 

[sailorman]

gotvapes also sells the stardust for 808 threaded batteries. So you do have other choices in 808....

Good point. They're kind of unwieldy for a volt battery though, I think. Kind of large diameter. Not as bad as a DCT tank though, lol.

 

[panhandleguy]

Again, not wanting to sound like a commercial, but you need to try the Fluxomizers. They're the same size as a regular cartomizer and there's nothing inside of them to scorch or burn. The resistance is perfect for the Volt, and they'll fit on 808 e-cigs. They also last a long time and you can clean them and refill them multiple times without leaking or cracking.

I went to the site for the "Fluxomisers". Did they just use the same picture for both types?
The end on the 808 had threads and would not work for my volt.

 

[sailorman]

I went to the site for the "Fluxomisers". Did they just use the same picture for both types?
The end on the 808 had threads and would not work for my volt.

It's very possible they used the same stock picture. They do that pretty commonly. If they're calling it an 808, I'd take their word for it. They know what they're doing there. They have the 510s on a separate page. You could compare. I'll bet the pics are the same.

 

[jersey girl]

I just ordered the 808's for my ego. They should be here by Wednesday and I will check back in and let you know.
If you can't wait then I would suggest emailing them.

 

[panhandleguy]

I just ordered the 808's for my ego. They should be here by Wednesday and I will check back in and let you know.
If you can't wait then I would suggest emailing them.

Thanks I'm not in a hurry, and appreciate your offer.

 

[lam7]

Your wish is my command. Squirt the liquid in with a syring or needle tipped bottle. Put the drip tip on . Vape. Quicker than a cartomizer to fill, and they fit a KR808 e-cig.
FLüXomizer™ KR808 Clearomizers : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

Okay...so this is stupid. I've seen these before as well as the CE2's. They all seem to have a goofy driptip thing on them which i know i will not like. I know some folks get used to them and some even find they like them afterwards, but i know it's not going to work for me. So...

When buying these fluxos or CE2s, can you use them without the driptip?

 

[DaveP]

The drip tip is the standard these days and it serves two purposes. You can add juice through the wide mouth (only good for dripper atomizers, IMO) and it puts more space between you and the atomizer filler. That prevents juice in the mouth, at least most of it unless there's a pool of juice on top of your carto filler. Then, you might get a taste. If you do, then it's time to blow out the carto or atomizer.

Standard cartos are best filled using the condom method, IMO. Tank cartos need a syringe to fill because of the bottom flange, but it's a quick and clean fill.

When the air tube in the center of a carto turns brown, the bottom of the tube is toast and I toss that carto. Cartos were meant for one use only throwaway duty. It's too expensive that way, so we refill them until the taste changes. Some I get 3 days from and others can go as long as a week. It all depends on the juice you vape, the voltage that you vape it at, and how often you top it off. We all get very sensitive about topping off cartos. I carry a 3ml bottle in my pocket for that purpose when I leave the house.

Some people wash their cartos out and reuse them. I've taken enough cartos apart to be wary of extended use. Juice burns in the carto and so does the filler. If they taste funny, 9 times out of 10 you will find burned filler around the coil area at the bottom.

Mine looked like this one. Some were worse. On some, the air tube was burned to the point of disintegration at the bottom and light brown at the top.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...8-4081-etc-filler-type-cartos.html#post301709

 

[DaveP]

Update: The carto I was using when I last posted was starting to taste funny. This one is about 3 days old and I kept having trouble with it. It would taste dry and I'd try to add a couple of drops. It would never take more than two without pooling. I finally stuck another one in for a condom fill and cut this one apart. I popped off the threaded end with a needle nose, pulled out the steel coil tube, then I pulled the filler out the large end, sliced it vertically and unfolded the filler.

Boge 3.0 stainless steel run for 3 days at 3.7v to 4.2v. Kind of scary, huh?

 

[sailorman]

I ain't skeered. The vast majority of that is burnt on juice, not burnt polyfill. I think it looks a whole lot worse than it is.

 

[sailorman]

Okay...so this is stupid. I've seen these before as well as the CE2's. They all seem to have a goofy driptip thing on them which i know i will not like. I know some folks get used to them and some even find they like them afterwards, but i know it's not going to work for me. So...

When buying these fluxos or CE2s, can you use them without the driptip?

No, you can't use a CE2 or a Fluxo without a drip tip. It is a mouthpiece. In a CE2 or Fluxo, it also prevents the juce from leaking past the air tube and into your mouth or on your floor. You can use the one that comes with it, or use any other one that fits a 510 cartomizer. There are thousands of drip tips to choose from. All types of materials and profiles, round, flat, thin, fat, long and short. It's not a matter of "getting used to them". They're instantly a thousand times more comfortable than sticking a hard, fat, round cylinder in your mouth and trying to make a decent seal around it with your lips.

 

[DaveP]

I ain't skeered. The vast majority of that is burnt on juice, not burnt polyfill. I think it looks a whole lot worse than it is.

I haven't yet pulled one apart to view it, then put it back together and washed it out, then pulled it apart to see the result. When I see this, it makes me thing black lung disease!

That was 100% PG juice, clear but slightly yellow tint, with frequent top offs any time the taste changed even slightly. I do have a turkey baster I bought for the purpose of trying the hot water carto clean method. I'd love to be able to recycle cartos and restore them to like new taste.

The air tube does look pretty clean doesn't it? I've had some that were eroded all the way up one side.