Help needed for DIY

[DingerCPA]

Well said. I have tried all the methods and I simply use drops most of the time. Works for me, it is an individual preference. I had a scale, never took the time to drag it out and finally gave it away.

You hit the nail on the head, dearie. Do what WORKS FOR YOU

 

[mattiem]

You hit the nail on the head, dearie. Do what WORKS FOR YOU

And that right there is the bottom line....there is no right or wrong way.
What Works For YOU is the right way for YOU.

 

[DingerCPA]

I think the "hardest" part of all this is having to do a little math. (I'm a lucky one for whom numbers don't "swirl around my head" - I think in 10mL increments and then multiply by what I need to get my bottle size)

That could be a scary thing for DIYers. When thinking in 10mL increments, 1% is 0.1mL. So, if I need 5% of something for a 30mL mix it's 0.1ml * 5% * 30ml/10ml - 0.1 * 5 * 3 = 1.5 mL. When someone says 2.43% of something, I ROUND it - I'm not going to notice that 0.07% difference of flavor

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Looks quite extensive. I'm a little surprised at the lack of reviews attached to their flavors
(I looked at common ones like peach {fresh, ripe, and sweet}, watermelon {fresh, and regular}, and raspberry {fresh, and regular} and not one of them had a single review.). I was also disheartened to see they made NO effort to attach ANY description to any of the flavors that I looked at. Just the same repeated paragraph about the size options. NOTHING specific to the flavor you are looking at. So unless you have an outside review like here on ECF it appears to be "wing & a prayer" time.

I'll be able to resist this ONE until I learn more.

Yes. Yes you are! You were trying to tempt me!

Not so much as to tempt you but to point to flavors I haven't found anywhere else. I like to rely somewhat on reviews but in the end it amounts to how much I want to try the flavor.

 

[salemgold]

Flavor companies are popping up all over just like the hardware and nic vendors. Hard to keep up. There is also another I have just found tho I am not sure they are new. It is one on one flavors and they have flavors that the other suppliers don't seem to have. I saw a tapioca flavor and a cookie dough....yum. They are a little more expensive but I will have to buy them soon as I love both flavors..
my bad. lol

Here you go. They have been around for awhile now

Anyone Heard of / Used One-On-One Flavors?

 

[bnrkwest]

Off the top of my head I would say that the vanilla is probably a french vanilla flavor with vanilla bean ice cream flavor and with the ice ice in the description maybe even some koolada in it. TFA has these flavors as well as sweet cream flavor.(but I suspect the sweet cream is really the vanilla bean ice cream is what they mean)
Several other manufactures make all these flavors too so it may be a little of test trial to find the correct ones that fit your taste.
I will look at some of the sites that I know that have clone recipes to see if I can find something similar for you, but it will be later today as I am starting to tire out. Or maybe some other members can chime in to help out.
Another thing to consider when buying flavors is to first buy the smallest amt they are selling so you don't waste a lot of money trying to figure it out. Wizard labs and onestopdiyshop have 8ml sizes and don't cost very much.
Do the vendors you buy from offer the flavors to buy as well as the already mixed ejuices? That may be a better option at least shipping wise.

That is what I would try too

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Here you go. They have been around for awhile now

Anyone Heard of / Used One-On-One Flavors?

Do you use any of their flavors? Been reading that closed thread you posted but now just looking at a couple pages here and there.(it's a long thread) Seems they may have fell out of favor by changing their original flavorings?

 

[bnrkwest]

I respect your method and am glad that it works for you; and for all the others that prefer to mix with drops. I will NOT try to change your mind or say someone else should not choose the method for themselves.

But, for the sake of those just wetting their feet in the world of DIY, and since you offered one point of view, I will offer another (not "correct" just "different"). I would point out the inherent limitation of drops so the person deciding what might work best for them can be more fully informed.

And that is the ability to accurately share/communicate your recipes. Drop size is dependent on viscosity, temperature, and type and size of dropper (an 18 gauge syringe needle is going to provide one size drop, a glass eye dropper another, and a plastic dropper bottle yet another). As long as you don't change anything, you can replicate the recipe with some consistency. But when I try to replicate it, my drops may be the same, or totally different. (As a side note: I would be curious if your VG based Real Flavors still measure out at 30 drops to the milliliter. Aren't they a lot thicker than your PG based flavors?)

It would be like me sharing a recipe for bread saying "mix together 20 fist-fulls of flower, with 15 cupped palms of water, and a shake of yeast and put it in the oven. You might get a brick, or some awful tasting broth, or some really tasty bread. It all depends on how lucky you are at interpreting my meaning without a common agreement to the measuring unit.

Also, some ingredients are much more forgiving to over/under measures. Comparing once again to the cooking world, a cookie recipe is going to be a lot more forgiving between a teaspoon and tablespoon of sugar, than it would between a teaspoon and tablespoon of salt even though both ingredients are used in the same recipe. I know this is an overly dramatic example but because we often use so little of each flavor (especially when we mix smaller test batches) it doesn't take a lot of variation to have something taste totally different.

I will be the first to acknowledge that measuring by volume (mL) and measuring by weight (gr) have their potential for error as well. I can misuse a set of measuring spoons, or buy a really lousy set, just as easily as misusing a syringe or scale. But the difference is we are talking about an agreed upon unit of measure (nobody is trying to figure out how big my hand is! )

That's my take on the subject; and I promise to stop "kicking the dog."

I had a recipe like that for pumpkin roll, handful of this and that! LOL Surprisingly the Real Flavors are not thick and I think VG when water bathed thins out nicely, wonder if they do that or added water? Cooking and making juice is an individual adventure. What works best must be individualized that is for sure. I know cooks that need all the lasted kitchen gadgets and some that cook the best meals on just a grill. I mix juice like I cook, easy as possible and the most delicious Guess I am a flavor seeker with the I hate to clean up messes attitude LOL!

 

[Dieseler]

Calculator been using for years, google ecigvape it is first hit you see in google and will bring you right to the calculators.
Been using 1 of them for years and on right side you can enter what you paid for ingredients used
and it will tell you what your cost are making it which of course is so much cheaper than store bought stuff.

 

[Fozzy71]

I had a recipe like that for pumpkin roll, handful if this and that! LOL Surprisingly the Real Flavors are not thick and I think VG when water bathed thins out nicely, wonder if they do that or added water? ........

Flavor Usage FAQ

If these are all VG extracts, why are they not super thick?

When we extract or create a flavor, it will have some elements added that may result in a thinning of the VG. This makes the flavor closer to the viscosity of PG and is not as thick as raw VG.

 

[kross8]

Do you buy the nic @ 100mg or less? What pct do you use?
I am around 6% now. Had to drop my nic when I started using the sub ohm coils. Before that I was at 12%. The sub ohm coils are nice but you really go through the ejuice a lot faster.
I mix by mls and am trying to get used to mixing using grams on a scale. Not quite there yet. Guess I am too used to they way I have done it for so long.
I have gotten in a few of the Real Flavors but have not mixed them yet. Too many flavors, not enough time. lol

currently using 100mg nic at 0-3mg,, all of my flavors are made without nic so that i dont beat up and age the nic ,, and because i sort of prefer no nic...... nic is more of an occasional product for me.

i started off buying Flavour Art flavors,, some were good,, some were ok,,, some didn't like me. (raspberry refuses to know me and coconut is a drama queen,, she believes she is butter lol)

i really like the INW lemon cake and biscuit.. i need to buy more of their flavors.

i like most of the sweet flavors from Capella.. not much of a fan for their fruits--so far.

for me,, the staples are:
bavarian cream-any vendor
vanilla bean ice cream -cap
sugar cookie-capella
meringue-fa
lemon sicily-fa
fuji-fa
marshmallow-fa

i like most of the creams by fa..
i have a few flavors i havent mixed up yet, pif flavors i didn't like or found boring.

my goal is to find about 20 that will give me 4 or 5 juice recipes that are awesome to me.

working with apple this weekend,,i like apples,, just never been in love with them. but the flavor is there.


Squonked apples
1% Biscuit (INAWERA)
2% Cream Fresh (FA)
3% Fuji Apple (FA)
0.5% Vanilla Tahity (FA)
Flavor total: 6.5%

 

[salemgold]

Do you use any of their flavors? Been reading that closed thread you posted but now just looking at a couple pages here and there.(it's a long thread) Seems they may have fell out of favor by changing their original flavorings?

I have a bunch of their flavors that I have not tried yet

They had something like a Bogo sale last month and myself along with a few others ordered them. I seriously need to get off my duff and try them soon. When I do I will report back.

I will ask another person that I know has tried hers what she though about them.

I was never really interested in trying their flavors as reviews say that they are very hit and miss. Then, there was a sale

 

[IDJoel]

I mix juice like I cook, easy as possible and the most delicious Guess I am a flavor seeker with the I hate to clean up messes attitude LOL!

Awesome!

 

[salemgold]

I have a bunch of their flavors that I have not tried yet

They had something like a Bogo sale last month and myself along with a few others ordered them. I seriously need to get off my duff and try them soon. When I do I will report back.

I will ask another person that I know has tried hers what she though about them.

I was never really interested in trying their flavors as reviews say that they are very hit and miss. Then, there was a sale

Ok. I did ask the other person that has tried her OOO. She said that they were just ok. Nothing to rave about. I kind of figured that. The fact that they have been around so long and you don't hear much about them, says a lot IMHO

I will say that I have been using FLV flavors since they were first offered. Every flavor that I have tried to date has been outstanding. They are a little more $ but, you use very low % with them so it evens out. Hope that helped.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Ok. I did ask the other person that has tried her OOO. She said that they were just ok. Nothing to rave about. I kind of figured that. The fact that they have been around so long and you don't hear much about them, says a lot IMHO

I will say that I have been using FLV flavors since they were first offered. Every flavor that I have tried to date has been outstanding. They are a little more $ but, you use very low % with them so it evens out. Hope that helped.

Thanks SG. I just looked at their store and they have cookie dough....Yippee....but its out of stock right now.....sigh

 

[IDJoel]

The fact that they have been around so long and you don't hear much about them, says a lot IMHO

That was my thought too. It seems that the vaping community is NOT shy about sharing opinions with all the social media avenues available. And as Sugar has already pointed out; they can be all over the board, and I may, or may not agree with them. But a total absence raises a red flag to me.

I will say that I have been using FLV flavors since they were first offered. Every flavor that I have tried to date has been outstanding. They are a little more $ but, you use very low % with them so it evens out. Hope that helped.

I've wondered about them Flavorah. I haven't seen as much of them as TFA, CAP, FA, or even IWA. I have known of them almost as long as the others but I know nothing about them. I don't see them often called for in posted recipes. That, combined with cost, has never made me curious. Now you made me curious.

You mention that they are potent. Do you mostly create from scratch with FLV or have you worked out a general method for substitution of other manufacturer's products? I realize this is an unfair question because the is another one that falls in the domain of personal preference/taste but I'm going to ask anyway. Maybe a better way to ask it would be: do you have any tips for working with FLV?

Any particular FLV flavors that you would recommend to be at the head of the list to try? Or that you would classify (for yourself) as "must haves?"

 

[salemgold]

That was my thought too. It seems that the vaping community is NOT shy about sharing opinions with all the social media avenues available. And as Sugar has already pointed out; they can be all over the board, and I may, or may not agree with them. But a total absence raises a red flag to me.

I've wondered about them Flavorah. I haven't seen as much of them as TFA, CAP, FA, or even IWA. I have known of them almost as long as the others but I know nothing about them. I don't see them often called for in posted recipes. That, combined with cost, has never made me curious. Now you made me curious.

You mention that they are potent. Do you mostly create from scratch with FLV or have you worked out a general method for substitution of other manufacturer's products? I realize this is an unfair question because the is another one that falls in the domain of personal preference/taste but I'm going to ask anyway. Maybe a better way to ask it would be: do you have any tips for working with FLV?

Any particular FLV flavors that you would recommend to be at the head of the list to try? Or that you would classify (for yourself) as "must haves?"

I don't think that I am able to post the link here but, if you Google Flavorah Recipes you should see a thread at reddit that has a lot of recipes just for FLV.

I like fruit flavors and have liked all that I have tried. Also, their Milk and Honey, Peanut Butter, cupcake batter, cream, pound cake, vanilla custard are the ones that I have tried and like. There are so many more that I want to try but really trying to use up some of what I have first.

BTW- SAS, they do make a Cookie Dough but, they too are OOS.

 

[JCinFLA]

IMO, there is one especially helpful tip for those starting DIY, that many newbies either don't know about, or don't apply. But...it will: (1) save them money, (2) help them avoid lots of frustration, and (3) give them a better chance at ending up with eliquids they can actually vape!

That tip is: BEFORE buying any flavorings...FIRST find a few recipes that you want to make. THEN buy the specifc flavorings needed to make those recipes. Otherwise... just picking out a variety of flavorings simply based upon your favorite fruits, or desserts, or candies, or drinks...will not give you the types of flavorings you'll need for DIY. That's why we commonly see posts from people asking: "Help - what can I make with these flavorings?"

There are primary flavorings (the main or dominant flavors in an eliquid), secondary flavorings (sort of "blenders" that help the others meld together), accents and/or additives (they act like the spices in a food recipe), and sweetening agents. Probably 95% or more of the recipes found for eliquids...include several of these flavoring types. Expecting to make a great eliquid by using only 1 of those types...is what usually leads to a lot of frustration, wasted flavorings & therefore money, and some "flush worthy" eliquids. Sadly, when that happens, the person often just gives up on trying to DIY.

Edit: Exceptions to the above are the specialized flavorings that are already blended and ready to use in making eliquids. Examples of those are the One Stop Flavors and One Stop Blends sold by One Stop DIY Shop and others online. Those can be used individually (and some combined with each other) by just mixing them with your own PG, VG, and Nic base...to make some wonderful tasting eliquids.

 

[bnrkwest]

I also think newbies to DIY should start with a blend flavor, there are so many good ones out there and they don't even need sweetener. Just add the flavor shake and vape. Samoa Cookie is great and so is Reindeer Poop if you can ignore the name LOL!

 

[JCinFLA]

I also think newbies to DIY should start with a blend flavor

Yep! I was editing my post above, to include info. on the ready to use specialty flavorings, as you were posting yours!