HELP! Nemesis burning my hand!

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rlockwich

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Glad to be here and this is my first time on the board. Also, Thank you in advance for any reply.

I've been running a stainless steel black plated nemesis clone for a couple weeks right meow (new to mods) with a black Patriot RDA clone at 0.42 ohm.

The batteries I've been using (as far as what the store owner told me) are Samsung, but unlike all the 18650 Samsung batteries I see they have it stamped saying Samsung on them, in which mine DO NOT. Also a little confusing to as I know about IMR batteries, but mine say INR. These are purple in color and are supposed to be 2000 mAh.

THE BURNING:

So with that set up shown above, since day one right in the shop he told me that in going to get shocked or having a little burning once a while, but as time has moved on and being busy it was more than that and couldn't make it back to the store.

No beauty ring, No kick ring.

The top 510 connection ring heats up burning super hot almost ever hit (pretty sure, ended up getting burned a couple times so now I avoid it) and sometimes the switch would heat up, but most times I could just let it go and 2 seconds later hit it again and it would be fine.

Which brings me to TODAY.

I went to a local vape store and picked up the Stillare Storm and built a 0.52 ohm dual parallel. I also upgraded my switch to magnets and upgraded my pos/neg contacts.

So since the new positive post is extended I had to put on my beauty ring.

The new setup is bad ... in all black btw, but now I'm still having the same heating up at the top right below the RDA where it screws into, and now the beauty ring heats up like a .....

So after all these upgrades I'm still having the same problems. Highly doubt it's my RDA since the Patriot and now the brand new Stillare is doing the same thing. Switching to magnets, and upgrading my battery contact posts.

I also cleaned the crap out of the threads, I'm talking from steel wool to the tooth brush and finishing off with wiping everything down with alcohol wipes.

If I had to guess....

Again, my nemesis is stainless steel and BLACK plated. Whatever manufacturer built this thing was ......ed. It seems that all my heat spots are where my threads are painted over. I tried the steel wool to no avail for removal. ( My nemesis is strangely painted, the very bottom outside security lock threads are not painted, but the inside switch button threads are painted. The entire beauty ring is painted, etc). However, I also read that all painted threads might do is cause voltage drop. (don't understand that)

Or maybe it could be my batteries???

Any reply would be most helpful, just trying to get more opinions. Thank you.
 
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Nice_Ash

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In my very early days of vaping I had a nemmy shock me before and get a hot button, I went to my local shop where a bunch of Veterans used to hang out and they told me to use NOALOX made by Ideal, it's a thread compound that you apply to the threads of the tubes and it makes it so the body of the mod makes a good ground.

It definitely sounds like it's the threads causing this so I recommend trying some of that thread compound. It can be purchased at home Depot in the electrical dept it's only a few bucks and I'll tell you when I put it on my nemmy it stopped the hot spots and shocking zaps.

I swear by this stuff now and I use it on all the threads of my mods, lock rings, even the battery contacts and 510 threads.

Check it out and see if this helps your issue.
 

rlockwich

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Is the battery getting hot? I don't think that sounds right that the shop told you that you would get shocked every so often. Sounds like you have a short somewhere. I hope someone who has experienced the same can chime in. I have never been shocked or had my mod burn me.
- Dirk

Not being ignorant, but I see a lot of people say that when it comes to a mod heating up, but I don't understand what a short means when it comes to a nemesis. It's just all metal lol, metal screwing together, No wires or anything. I completely disassembled the thing and thoroughly cleaned every part and put it together using rubber gloves lol seems the beauty ring is what's most annoying as of 3 minutes ago. I wouldn't want to hold my finger on it to find out what kind of burn it could give me.
 

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The batteries I've been using (as far as what the store owner told me) are Samsung, but unlike all the 18650 Samsung batteries I see they have it stamped saying Samsung on them, in which mine DO NOT. Also a little confusing too as I know about IMR batteries, but mine say INR. These are purple in color and are supposed to be 2000 mAh.

THE BURNING:

So with that set up shown above, since day one right in the shop he told me that in going to get shocked or having a little burning once a while, but as time has moved on and being busy it was more than that and couldn't make it back to the store.

The top 510 connection ring heats up burning super hot almost ever hit (pretty sure, ended up getting burned a couple times so now I avoid it) and sometimes the switch would heat up, but most times I could just let it go and 2 seconds later hit it again and it would be fine.

Or maybe it could be my batteries???

Samsung makes three high drain IMR batteries. They call their IMR batteries INR (lithium nickle rechargeable): Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers



Samsung also makes ICR batteries, which are not high drain and not appropriate for mod use. Those are purple. It would be critical to know the model numbers of the batteries you have. If they are ICR, they could be overheating and causing your mod getting hot.

It is definitely NOT normal what you are experiencing. The atty will get hot as its generating heat, but the mod or battery should not be getting hot.
 
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Not being ignorant, but I see a lot of people say that when it comes to a mod heating up, but I don't understand what a short means when it comes to a nemesis. It's just all metal lol, metal screwing together, No wires or anything. I completely disassembled the thing and thoroughly cleaned every part and put it together using rubber gloves lol seems the beauty ring is what's most annoying as of 3 minutes ago. I wouldn't want to hold my finger on it to find out what kind of burn it could give me.

Not having your device in my hands I can't say for sure what would be shorting. I can only assume that the battery is touching somewhere it shouldn't and you are getting a flow of electricity through the mod itself, instead of through the atty and coil which would generate heat and a shock. I am only speculating because I have never had an issue like this. I run a mech sub ohm and it doesn't get hot nor do I get shocked. I would check the positive pin in the top cap and make sure it is insulated and that the battery is not touching anything other then the pin. I hope we can get this solved for you.
- Dirk
 

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:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
I'm thinking about just going tomorrow and buying 2 efest 35A batteries. Should have just got them today when I was there. Maybe I'll also pick up that threading compound as well.

The battery goes in positive to top of nemesis as well right lol haha

Really? You have to ask?

Dump the mystery battery right away, you should have the instant you had any doubts. This isn't a game. I've personally known people who have had life altering injuries from lithium batteries.
 

Stray Black Cat

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OK, Bill Nye science doesn't work here. Your now in Beakmans realm. Welcome to the world of "ALLOYS AND RESISTANCE". First out, make sure your Mod has vents and they are real, especially if it's a clone. Be sure of your battery, Counterfeits may force feed you your Atomizer regardless of vents. Know the current capabilities of your switch, your working currents could weld it in closed position during a pulse. With that aside, lets get to the Shocking truth. With the push into sub-ohming and more powerful batteries, the limits are being reached for certain Mods. The frame in most, is part of the circuit and that is the problem. Different alloys vary in resistance. The higher the resistance of the base metal the less current it can carry. It looks like the current requirements of your coil exceed the ability of the Mods shell to conduct it. The current will take additional paths if available. Copper is the best common metal for sub-ohming mods followed by brass. Stainless and most other alloys have a high enough resistance to create problems. To tighten the clean stainless parts together sufficiently to prevent shocking or burning would gall or damage the threads. A silver oxide on the threads may help but it is easy to over tighten. If it does not or shocks to the lips occur then it is time to change to a solid copper or brass mod. Consider if the mod can't carry the current then the switch is probably inadequate to handle it too. Remember Atomizers look much cooler on a Mod then implanted in a face.
 

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If I were you I would not use that thing again until you tried it with safe batteries. Next, If I were you I would go to the store that gave you those batteries and put them where they belong. If your mod heats up to a point where you burn yourself or can't touch the button anymore that is insane!
 

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maybe if you are new to vaping you would be better off starting with a regulated mod? First of all you get a consistent vape secondly it would allow you to learn about battery safety for a while.

I made so many mistakes when I started vaping but I never had a mod heat up like that. If any of my mods would even slightly heat up to a unusual temp. I put it down. Heating up to a point where you burn yourself? tick tick tick boom
 
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