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kabonk

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I have a some expensive RBAs and I have some less expensive ones they are only as good as the coil you build. I would start out with an RSST or a AGA-t or just a dripper like the IGO-L. that way if you don't have the patients for it your not out a lot of cash. as said you will need a way to check the ohms. I don't do sub ohm coils I rap mine right around 2 ohms and use a provari or a zmax
 
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I know the RSST gets a lot of love and for plenty of good reasons too but I'd like to share my thoughts on it and why a "more difficult" genny like the AGAs might be better...

It wasn't very long ago that I was first getting started in RBAs myself. I remember asking a lot of the same questions and reading a lot of the same answers. The RSST was *very* new at the time and difficult to locate in stock. When you did find one it usually was at a premium, sometimes 10 or 15 dollars more than the AGA-T2. I went with the AGA-T2 instead. I was so nervous about wasting the one little square of mesh that had come with it that I actually did a test run with a silica wick in it first! That's how I learned silica isn't the best answer for *every* atty ;)

My first three coils on an SS wick seemed to have a life expectancy of right around half a second before a hot spot went terminal and melted it. I wasn't sure I would ever come to grips with it but I kept trying as I *had* correctly ordered plenty of extra wire too. Finally I nailed it... a coil on an SS wick that didn't melt instantly. But it didn't vape like I thought it should, had a funny metallic taste sometimes and often the resistance seemed to wander around a lot. I ordered more mesh and kept watching youtube videos and reading threads here. Built my second wick and coil and that one worked a lot better. Got my second AGA-T2 and the wick I rolled for that seemed like a breeze compared to my first attempt and now a solid ss mesh wick that vapes beautifully, tastes great, and stays rock solid at the resistance I coiled it for is something I expect when I make a new one.

The RSST? It's highly touted as a good RBA for "beginners" because it has an insulated wick hole *and* tank. In my opinion? You can learn to ride a bicycle with training wheels on it too. IF you ever take those wheels off of it you are still going to fall down a few times but sooner than you can imagine the hard stuff will be behind you. The AGA-T2 is sort of like buying your first bicycle and someone forgot to pack the training wheels in the box. You are still going to fall down a few times but before you know it the hard part will be far behind you. So the question is... Do you want training wheels or not? ;)
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I think im gonna go for the AGA-T. Oktyabr made a very good point.

You cant go wrong with that, even though i recommended the rsst.

Just remember to get the t2 / t+.
The original aga has a screw on topcap, where the hole doesnt slign with the mesh hole, so that it needs sanding
 

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I throw this out there too... I just received a pair of "mini DID" genesis style from Vaporbank's spring sale. They were like $8 each... don't think they are much more than that when not on sale. Probably the smallest genesis out there and a tricky #$@#@! to try and get working right but it works well once you get it assembled... Mine, even better after I drilled out the airhole in the cap to 1/16th! Mine came with both a steel tank and a plastic one (not glass) *and* a metal driptip that curiously enough, is a brushed sort of finish where the rest of the atty is polished. Holds about 2ml of juice and I like it quite well.

Considerably cheaper than an already incredibly low priced AGA-T2 and also more difficult to build... but if someone is looking to try their hand at a true genesis RBA I'm not sure you will find one cheaper than that.
 

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I throw this out there too... I just received a pair of "mini DID" genesis style from Vaporbank's spring sale. They were like $8 each... don't think they are much more than that when not on sale. Probably the smallest genesis out there and a tricky #$@#@! to try and get working right but it works well once you get it assembled... Mine, even better after I drilled out the airhole in the cap to 1/16th! Mine came with both a steel tank and a plastic one (not glass) *and* a metal driptip that curiously enough, is a brushed sort of finish where the rest of the atty is polished. Holds about 2ml of juice and I like it quite well.

Considerably cheaper than an already incredibly low priced AGA-T2 and also more difficult to build... but if someone is looking to try their hand at a true genesis RBA I'm not sure you will find one cheaper than that.

This is the exact one i got. Btw, if anyone is interested, you dont need to wait for the sale to get a $8 Genesis: fasttech offers them, and free shipping too.

I got mine from fasttech and youre right, it was harder to build than the AGA since the space is so small.
 

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:2c: I started out with 4 Chobra's (cobra clones) not high quality by any means but the free price was right. Then the RSST and now have a ZAP. The RSST is the first pick for a noob. The ZAP if a beautiful piece of art. Just remember if the RBA cost $10 or $150 it doesn't work if the wick and coil are not done right. The device is only as good as the wick and coil.
 

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Here are a couple of reviews by PBusardo to consider on the genesis style RBA's

A PBusardo Review - Smoktech RSST Genesis Atomizer - YouTube

or

A PBusardo Review - The AGA-T(s) - Part 1 - The Review - YouTube

and part 2

A PBusardo Review - The AGA-T(s) - Part 2 - Assembly & Building Tutorial - YouTube

I got the AGA-T2 and currently wish I would have got the RSST :oops:
I do love the pbusardo vids but you haven't made a bad choice in the aga t2 selection. I have two and have been putting off buying the rsst. I do love it but do prefer the pyrex of the aga t+ v2 and the aga t2. They are just stellar vapes. The only reason I have delayed getting the rsst is that I have to wrap my coil backwards as I am left handed. I do desire that bigger wick hole though. (insert joke here)
I seen a great vid on the rsst so here it is....
smoktech RSST - YouTube
enjoy... this guy is sick.....my new vape god!!!
 

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Before you jump in head first know that RBAs almost always put more stress on a battery than a normal tank. Especially when you're learning. Your going to push that Twist to it's limits even if by accident. Invest in a cheap mod before you give this a go. Even a cheap Vamo would at least give you the ability to at least use a safe chemistry battery.
 

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Another thing to keep in mind: Genesis style RBAs are not exactly portable. I LOVE my Zen-Atty but it is absolutely a sit at the computer or on the couch type thing.

This is true. I use mine more like a lightweight hookah.

Modded Protank on mech is the way to fly for me when im out and about.
 
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