I recently got some Boge 801 cartomizers, the kind with the cotton looking stuff in them, to try in my new DSE-808 Stick. Well I filled 2 of them up, one using the drip method from the top, and the other with the syringe method where you fill the syringe and slide it down the side very carefully and fill it that way. Well neither one is behaving right. I'm pretty sure they aren't overfilled because there isn't any juice pooling at the top but there is plenty of juice in them cause all the cottony material is wet. The main problem i'm having is that no matter how light of a draw I use i keep getting a gurgling sound and just about always get some juice in my mouth, not cool. So I'm just wondering if there is a trick to them because I see that a lot of people use them but so far I'm not impressed. I tried some of the new ce2 clearomizers and while I don't love them they behave a lot better than the cartomizers so far which seems to go against a lot of what I've read on these forums. Thanks for any tips!