Help with safety concerns regarding high wattage devices

[Brian435Baer]

Hello, I recently got a Asmodus Helve box mod. It does 120w, and TC with NI200, SS304, SS316 AND TI. I understand temp control devices, and how they work. My question is, is it really safe to be vaping at like 30-35 watts?? I am strongly considering going back to a Vape Pen, because I feel a little un-easy about vaping at high wattage. I used to vape at like 70-80 watts with a UWell Crown tank, mainly for massive clouds. And then I stopped cloud chasing and started flavor chasing, but I've found I can only get a good amount of flavor when I vape with at least 30watts. I'm scared and nervous I'm going to obtain some type of cancer or even worse some type of health problems because I vape alot. Like I'm talking 15mL sometimes 20-30 on others, I recently set my limit to 15mL a day, no more than that. But I basically try to stay under that even, but it's hard..it's like I find myself CONSTANTLY refilling my tank..even with 4mL capacity.. It's ridiculous. I don't know what to do to get myself to cut back..I've tried upping my nicotine so I don't need as much, and while it has helped, I still find myself vaping a .... ton. Do I need to get again up my nicotine dose?? Is there a tank out there I can use at really low wattage and still obtain great flavor, and not burn so much juice ? Is there a method to not vaping as much, I need tips ideas and advice badly. I really don't want to be vaping this much, like I said, I'm concerned about the flavoring in my eliquid or even any other,ingredients cause health problems for me later on in life. I did quit smoking about a month and a half ago, so that is great and all. But I still find myself just vaping too much(in my opinion)
I seriously vape like every few minutes, sometimes every minute.
I work for an E-liquid manufactoer so I don't even pay for my juice, and I've got like 7 or 8 very nice and very expensive set ups, I'm talking the whole works, tanks mods, and dozens and dozens of spare coils.

So far, I have cut back alot on my eliquid consumption, simply by increasing my nicotine strength by 1.5mg (I buy 2 bottles of my favorite eliquid, one in 3, the other in 6) and I mix them togetger. I've also lowered my usual wattage settings from an average (50w on .3(tfv4 micro), 50w on .5(uwell crown)and 60-70w on .25 coils(uwell crown)) down to 35w on tfv4 .3 clp2 coils, 30w on uwell crown .5 coils, and havent used the .25 coils on the crown since I started using .5 crown coils, due to there ability to be used lower wattage and still great flavor.
Is there anything else I might be missing? Is there tricks or tips I can use to lessen my eliquid consumption ? As I stated there is no,limit to the amount of eliquid I have access too..and that goes for any eliquid I desire. So anything you guys use or have for me, would be overly appreciated.
Thank you. Also plz if anybody has any links to study's that might interest me in regards to vaping and how it affects the lungs that would be great. I guess if I maybe understood fully what vaping does to the lungs, good or bad, I could use that to help make up my mind about slowing down with vaping. Thanks again, you can E-mail me at [Email address removed]

 

[Brian435Baer]

Self control issue's I guess.
And maybe boredom, and excessive availability. Vaping nearly consumes my whole life. I don't ever leave anywhere without my box and a,bottle of eliquid.

 

[Hitmetwice]

If you were to go unflavoured and just vape for the nic you would likely find you're vaping less.

With all the free juice you want at your fingertips that may not be do-able.
New line of work?
More active lifestyle?
Use an ego c when you are out,
just be "out" a lot?
I use a high PG liquid and was able to cut flavouring in half.
Cutting your liquid 100% with PG would 1/2 the flavour you vape.

A multi pronged approach will be most effective for you. imo. Cheers.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

There are studies being done, but nothing in the health field is fast. The ones that have been done are all over the place, depending on switch side of the fence you happen to stand. For/against.

For me, if I wasn't vaping I would still be smoking. I KNOW what cigarettes do to my body and since I started vaping all of those negative things just started to go away. Not all at once, not all at the same time but all in a positive way to tell me that my body was healing from all the abuse I did to it when smoking.
Since our bodies absorb the nic in a different way than with smoking, we are not getting the same amounts that we used to with cigarettes.
I like to use this analogy.
Smoking is like doing shots of whiskey.....get drunk really quickly.
Vaping is like drinking beer......takes more beer to get drunk than with whiskey.
Both do get you drunk, one just takes longer.
So when you start to vape, you will vape way more than you smoked as your body is trying to get the same levels that you were used to.
It will start to slow down. When? That is up to your body and you.
I decided not to worry about how much I was vaping or if vaping was harming me in any way. Why? Because I know from my experience that it cannot be any worse than what cigarettes did to me. And like a slave, I continued to smoke even knowing I was killing myself.
Smoking was never fun. Couldn't taste anything anyway.
With vaping, I have turned it into a whole lot of fun exploring all the different flavors I can now taste since my taste buds and smell came alive again.
Just my 2 pennies.

 

[sofarsogood]

Hello, I recently got a Asmodus Helve box mod. It does 120w, and TC with NI200, SS304, SS316 AND TI. I understand temp control devices, and how they work. My question is, is it really safe to be vaping at like 30-35 watts?? I am strongly considering going back to a Vape Pen, because I feel a little un-easy about vaping at high wattage. I used to vape at like 70-80 watts with a UWell Crown tank, mainly for massive clouds. And then I stopped cloud chasing and started flavor chasing, but I've found I can only get a good amount of flavor when I vape with at least 30watts. I'm scared and nervous I'm going to obtain some type of cancer or even worse some type of health problems because I vape alot. Like I'm talking 15mL sometimes 20-30 on others, I recently set my limit to 15mL a day, no more than that. But I basically try to stay under that even, but it's hard..it's like I find myself CONSTANTLY refilling my tank..even with 4mL capacity.. It's ridiculous. I don't know what to do to get myself to cut back..I've tried upping my nicotine so I don't need as much, and while it has helped, I still find myself vaping a .... ton. Do I need to get again up my nicotine dose?? Is there a tank out there I can use at really low wattage and still obtain great flavor, and not burn so much juice ? Is there a method to not vaping as much, I need tips ideas and advice badly. I really don't want to be vaping this much, like I said, I'm concerned about the flavoring in my eliquid or even any other,ingredients cause health problems for me later on in life. I did quit smoking about a month and a half ago, so that is great and all. But I still find myself just vaping too much(in my opinion)
I seriously vape like every few minutes, sometimes every minute.
I work for an E-liquid manufactoer so I don't even pay for my juice, and I've got like 7 or 8 very nice and very expensive set ups, I'm talking the whole works, tanks mods, and dozens and dozens of spare coils.

So far, I have cut back alot on my eliquid consumption, simply by increasing my nicotine strength by 1.5mg (I buy 2 bottles of my favorite eliquid, one in 3, the other in 6) and I mix them togetger. I've also lowered my usual wattage settings from an average (50w on .3(tfv4 micro), 50w on .5(uwell crown)and 60-70w on .25 coils(uwell crown)) down to 35w on tfv4 .3 clp2 coils, 30w on uwell crown .5 coils, and havent used the .25 coils on the crown since I started using .5 crown coils, due to there ability to be used lower wattage and still great flavor.
Is there anything else I might be missing? Is there tricks or tips I can use to lessen my eliquid consumption ? As I stated there is no,limit to the amount of eliquid I have access too..and that goes for any eliquid I desire. So anything you guys use or have for me, would be overly appreciated.
Thank you. Also plz if anybody has any links to study's that might interest me in regards to vaping and how it affects the lungs that would be great. I guess if I maybe understood fully what vaping does to the lungs, good or bad, I could use that to help make up my mind about slowing down with vaping. Thanks again, you can E-mail me at [Email address removed]

My eliquid is free too. My DIY costs 1.2 cents per ml, 8 cents a day. That's free. I vape 7 ml per day of 10 mg nic. I'm not concerned about nic intake except to preserve my stash incase government interferes. I would like to reduce the ml's of liquid and find that hard to do. At least it is not increasing. I use just 1.5% flavoring. That might help you. I might increase nic and see if that lowers daily ml's. I keep my mod set to 400 degrees and 30 max watts and don't increase it. I use 1.3 ohm coils so I can keep watts down. When the Federal Drug Administration cracks down as they proposed today you may not have a vape or a job.

 

[suprtrkr]

You can go MTL on something like a Nautilus tank in the 15W range. That will cut your consumption. whether or not you will find it satisfying is another question. Try it and see.

 

[BrotherBob]

Also plz if anybody has any links to study's that might interest me in regards to vaping and how it affects the lungs that would be great

Could read: Medical
Research

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

Considering that everyone that smoked, switching to vaping have cleared their lungs, and made them healthier by a lot... Considering that vaping's been around for almost 10 years (if not already), and not a simple instance of health issues has come up.. not one. No one reported lung damage in any way or anything. You don't think the vultures wouldn't have jumped on it by now?

Maybe 20-30 years down the road we'll have a better idea, probably a confirmation that the risk is astronomical smaller if not non-existant, but for many smokers, 20-30 years wouldn't have happened in the first place.

So far, every bad thing is either mech mods and batteries, and every "news" about actual vaping being bad have all been proven false.

So it comes down to a personal choice...

 

[Maestro]

Even though cloud-chasing is fun, it's pointless, expensive and possibly less healthy. I vape 8 - 10 watts at 12mg and go through 5 - 6 ml a day and the flavors are awesome. The whole point is getting the nicotine, right? Why suck in 4 times more than you have to?

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

Even though cloud-chasing is fun, it's pointless, expensive and possibly less healthy. I vape 8 - 10 watts at 12mg and go through 5 - 6 ml a day and the flavors are awesome. The whole point is getting the nicotine, right? Why suck in 4 times more than you have to?

Actually, with sub-ohms, you need less nicotine as more is delivered per puff. So just accounting for the nicotine fix, sub-ohm would take just a puff or two to deliver the same "fix" as several puffs at low power. Heck, holding it in for an extra second would help that part too.

If it's about the nicotine only, sub-ohm vaping wouldn't use more liquid, nor be "possibly less healthy".

That said, I'm not saying to go crazy in watts either, I go at around 45W and that's more than fine.

 

[Maestro]

I don't sub-ohm but I have friends that do. They use 3mg compared to the 12 mg I use. I assume they need to do that because they're vaping the juice 4 times as fast and getting 4 times the nicotine on each toot. Like I said, blowing clouds is fun but that doesn't justify the extra expense and risk to your health. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

I don't sub-ohm but I have friends that do. They use 3mg compared to the 12 mg I use. I assume they need to do that because they're vaping the juice 4 times as fast and getting 4 times the nicotine on each toot. Like I said, blowing clouds is fun but that doesn't justify the extra expense and risk to your health. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

It's more the extra heat and quantity per puff...

They need one puff and get the same nicotine as you take in 4 puffs (and your 4 puffs results in similar usage.

If you haven't tried it, you haven't felt the difference... it's really a whole different way of vaping.. I know that when I went from basic vaping with regular tanks, the moment I tried a sub-ohm, I found the difference just simply amazing and never looked back... my wife and daughter felt the same (after borrowing mine a few times) and got identical mods and tanks as mine.

In the end, it's just plain math and evens outs.

They reason that they use more liquid ends up about the making of clouds more than the nicotine draw.

At the same time, it's also about the more intense the flavour and the warms and throat hit. For them and many others, vaping is simply a hobby. I know that I've quite started to join that world, but did so for my wife that just couldn't quit smoking until vaping was invented. (and yes, she tried just about everything), and I try to ensure her health by getting into it, researching it, etc. and I enjoy it too.

As far as risk to health, people have been doing this for years now and not a single side effect reported, and my wife (with MS) has been healthier for it.

If you read up of the components, there's not one item (certified organic and proper stuff, not the whatever from a dark alley in a van from china) that has been proven to be a hazard in away way via multiple studies, over the course of decades of research.

I know that there's been a massive witch hunt over the last couple of years, but all "research" showing anything bad have all been debunked as being manipulate and/or fabricated.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

hmm.. this went funny on me and instead of a edit, it created a double post. Mods, if you can delete.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Hey!

I get TONS of flavor or clouds on my setup. It depends on what I do with my setup. Running a Sigelei 213 mod at around 110W to 175W, Twisted Messes Squared RDA dual coil with twisted 26ga coils and Koh Gen Do cotton.

Now how can that be? How do I get either clouds or flavor? It really all depends on how much juice I drip in.

If I take off the top cap and juice up the cotton, close it back up and vape at 110W or higher, chances are I'll get some flavor and moderate clouds. But I can also drip in to the top cap a sufficient amount of juice and at 175W get clouds and flavor.

I've had 75W, 150W and now a 213W mod. They will all get you to where you want to go. You just have to dial in the airflow and juice levels.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

Hey!

I get TONS of flavor or clouds on my setup. It depends on what I do with my setup. Running a Sigelei 213 mod at around 110W to 175W, Twisted Messes Squared RDA dual coil with twisted 26ga coils and Koh Gen Do cotton.

Now how can that be? How do I get either clouds or flavor? It really all depends on how much juice I drip in.

If I take off the top cap and juice up the cotton, close it back up and vape at 110W or higher, chances are I'll get some flavor and moderate clouds. But I can also drip in to the top cap a sufficient amount of juice and at 175W get clouds and flavor.

I've had 75W, 150W and now a 213W mod. They will all get you to where you want to go. You just have to dial in the airflow and juice levels.

For your setup, what's the ohm rating you're using, and type of wire.

I just got a dripper that the person left a coil in there, probably kanthal 20 or 22 gauge as the darn thing was so crazy hard and thick (I only have been using 28 and 30 gauge NI200), on my mod, at it's max of 60W, I could barely get it to light up, so I just chucked it and build a quick one.

I've yet to understand the difference between using a huge wire vs a high gauge one that requires a fraction of the power, but vapes crazy clouds anyways (and gets excellent flavour too).

I tend to go 35-45W for my builds, either these drippers (that I'm just starting into) or my regular rebuild coil cartridges.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

For your setup, what's the ohm rating you're using, and type of wire.

I just got a dripper that the person left a coil in there, probably kanthal 20 or 22 gauge as the darn thing was so crazy hard and thick (I only have been using 28 and 30 gauge NI200), on my mod, at it's max of 60W, I could barely get it to light up, so I just chucked it and build a quick one.

I've yet to understand the difference between using a huge wire vs a high gauge one that requires a fraction of the power, but vapes crazy clouds anyways (and gets excellent flavour too).

I tend to go 35-45W for my builds, either these drippers (that I'm just starting into) or my regular rebuild coil cartridges.

Nothing special: dual 26ga Kanthal A1, 0.33 ohms for the dual coils.

Think of it as smaller wire heats faster b/c the electrons have a hard time getting through it.

Thicker wire heats slower, and cools down slower because of it's mass.

 

[lynn508]

I really don't understand why people need 20/40/50/100/200/300 watts to quit smoking. Is this a game? If so it is rather silly. More of an obsession.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

I really don't understand why people need 20/40/50/100/200/300 watts to quit smoking. Is this a game? If so it is rather silly. More of an obsession.

Before you got laid, do you remember how icky boys were? Same thing. What you don't know won't hurt you...run along now.

 

[lynn508]

AT this point in my life I really think 200w ecigs will make a difference in life. Shame you have to be nasty to try to make a point. I feel sorry for you.

 

[speedy_r6]

I really don't understand why people need 20/40/50/100/200/300 watts to quit smoking. Is this a game? If so it is rather silly. More of an obsession.

The same reason some people drive a 500 horsepower sports car to work while others drive a prius. People prefer different things. Simple as that.what works for you may not work for somoeone else. What works for someone else may not work for you.