Hey guys from NY....need some advice.....please

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Me again,

I just saw this...
Electronic cigarette starter kit
Apollo Extreme Starter Kit

If you must get a cigarette-size e-cig, look at this one. You can get it with 24mg nic juice in 5 Flavors, and either Black or more traditional looking White with Filter-colored Atomizer. You get 2 batteries, 3 Chargers, and 5 Cartos for $54.95, but be warned... they are only 280 mAh Automatic Batteries (vaping turns it On).

For $69.95, you can get an eGo-style...
Ego electronic cigarette
Apollo Superior eGo CE4 Kit, with two 900 mAh Batteries, a USB/AC Charger, two CE4 Clearomizers, and 10ml of Juice in 19 Flavors, up to 24mg nic. These are Manual Batteries (with a On/Off and Vape Button) and they come in 8 colors; White included. Manual Batteries are more Efficient. These two Batteries would certainly last you all day!!!

I don't mean to be Pushy about it, but for $15 more, you can get something you'd be Happy with, and it's much more Versatile.

This is more like what Baditude recommended.
 

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As someone who made the switch from analogs to vaping about 2.5 months ago, I went through a similar process. Started with disposables, then went to a greensmartliving (510 system with prefilled cartridges). Finally, last week, I decided to get something heftier/more permanent - and I am also a former smoker who prefers a PV that mimics a cig. SO, long story short, I got the Joyetech eRoll. It is smaller than all the other 510 units, has a higher voltage (a steady 3.7V), works well with its PCC system - and if looks are important to you, it is WAY prettier than any other cig-a-like I've seen.

Anyway - only been a week, but so far I highly recommend it. There are varying prices, I've seen it go for anywhere from $50 up to $90 online. I wound up getting it at a local vape shop for $65 because I didn't want to wait for shipping.
 
wow guys. Thanks so much for ALL the helpful replies...
Now you guys got me thinking.....Now im not so sure that I really NEEEEED a cig-a-like, but I definitely don't want a CIGAR-a-like.
Something in the middle could work for me.
I was looking at the Halo G6 kits, they look nice for a cig a like, and seem like they have good review.
But, every smoke shop I enter, all I hear is EGO.
And, you guys seem to know what you are talking about of course, so I will definitely listen to you guys.
I like those apollos, and the ones in the pic from Baditude don't look too bad either, if they are really a big step up from the cig a likes.

Oh yea, and did I mention I am searching for one with a great throat hit with lots of "smoke" to exhale...?

Oh man, decisions, decisions.....



thanks again
dave
 
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wow guys. Thanks so much for ALL the helpful replies...
Now you guys got me thinking.....Now im not so sure that I really NEEEEED a cig-a-like, but I definitely don't want a CIGAR-a-like.
Something in the middle could work for me.
I was looking at the Halo G6 kits, they look nice for a cig a like, and seem like they have good review.
But, every smoke shop I enter, all I hear is EGO.
And, you guys seem to know what you are talking about of course, so I will definitely listen to you guys.
I like those apollos, and the ones in the pic from Baditude don't look too bad either, if they are really a big step up from the cig a likes.

Oh yea, and did I mention I am searching for one with a great throat hit with lots of "smoke" to exhale...?

Oh man, decisions, decisions.....



thanks again
dave
isn't it fun?:toast:
 

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wow guys. Thanks so much for ALL the helpful replies...
Now you guys got me thinking.....Now im not so sure that I really NEEEEED a cig-a-like, but I definitely don't want a CIGAR-a-like.
Something in the middle could work for me.
I was looking at the Halo G6 kits, they look nice for a cig a like, and seem like they have good review.
But, every smoke shop I enter, all I hear is EGO.
And, you guys seem to know what you are talking about of course, so I will definitely listen to you guys.
I like those apollos, and the ones in the pic from Baditude don't look too bad either, if they are really a big step up from the cig a likes.

Oh yea, and did I mention I am searching for one with a great throat hit with lots of "smoke" to exhale...?

Oh man, decisions, decisions.....



thanks again
dave

Halo G6 is the same kit as Smokeless Image Volt and Bloog. I think that Volt is the best value, Halo has fantastic eliquids. You can mix and match. Now that you understand the limitations of cigalikes (short battery life, not much power, no variable voltage), you can make an informed decision. If you need that sesation of holding a cigarette in your hand, grab a Volt or Halo. If you think you can handle a sharpie-size (not a cigar), get a vv Twist or Spinner. Go to a B&M store and hold it in your hand. If it feels good, get it.

It's your decision--there is no right or wrong in vaping. It has to be right for you!

And even if you start with a mini battery, you can always move up. Most of us did. We all started with small, automatic batteries. Some of us still use them.

Don't overthink it. Just get a kit start vaping. The rest will take care of itself.
 

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Once you decide on your delivery advice to replace your Blus, the next question is going to be an eliquid that as you said will give you lots of vape and satisfy your craving.

There is a small corner of the vaping community that is really enjoying WTA liquids. These have other additional alkaloids that tobacco has, some that are addictive like the nicotine and people miss when quitting the analogs. There is one vendor that has the WTA liquid and is a forum supplier- Aroma Ejuice. They have a menthol liquid called P38 that has some fantastic reviews on this site and Youtube. Their supply goes quickly though and right now it is only available in the 18mg.

I have some Aroma (Snickerdoodle) on the way, so I can't personally attest yet whether there is a true difference. Though the chemistry certainly makes sense.
Good luck!
 
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I see you're from LI. There's a B&M shop (vapeny.com) in Jamaica, Queens and I've heard that the owners are pretty cool and helpful. I'm in lower Manhattan with no car so I haven't visited yet. They'll let you try out different batteries and juices in the store. It's likely that you may have to pay a little more for gear there than from an online vendor but I wouldn't mind if they helped me find a good setup.
 

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Halo G6 is the same kit as Smokeless Image Volt and Bloog. I think that Volt is the best value, Halo has fantastic eliquids. You can mix and match. Now that you understand the limitations of cigalikes (short battery life, not much power, no variable voltage), you can make an informed decision. If you need that sesation of holding a cigarette in your hand, grab a Volt or Halo. If you think you can handle a sharpie-size (not a cigar), get a vv Twist or Spinner. Go to a B&M store and hold it in your hand. If it feels good, get it.

It's your decision--there is no right or wrong in vaping. It has to be right for you!

And even if you start with a mini battery, you can always move up. Most of us did. We all started with small, automatic batteries. Some of us still use them.

Don't overthink it. Just get a kit start vaping. The rest will take care of itself.

Sage advice, Katya,

But Dave, in case there's not a B&M nearby (Brick and Mortar, or a Physical Store), or you cannot get to it, then get a ruler with inches and metric, and check out the links you've been given to see the physical size of these things. It just hit me, too, that a Cigar can be quite a bit bigger in diameter than an eGo-type 650 mAh battery (and up to even 1000-1300 mAh - it's the Length that changes). Katya is referencing to a Sharpie, which is a very good way to look at it (to me, the bigger Sharpie, but not Marks-a-Lot size). The Mod-sized units are about 22mm in diameter, or close to an inch.

To convert mm to inches, divide mm by 25.4. i.e., 22mm ÷ 25.4 = ~0.866 inch.

EDIT to Add:
You talked about wanting Throat Hit (TH) and lots of smoke (Vapor). In general, PG is great for TH, and VG is great for Vapor. So I'd have to say that you're going to want a Mix of both. Going with PG listed first, it may look like this where you see it...

100% PG, then PG/VG in like 90/10, 80/20, 70/30/ and 50/50, meaning more PG to 50/50.

Often when there's more VG, it will look like this...

100% VG, then VG/PG in 90/10, 80/20, 70/30, and 50/50.

90/10 of anything is kinda rare, but these are examples. However, you may also see PG/VG 20/80, meaning more VG, so pay attention to that. It's really nice when they simply say 70% PG, 30% VG. Note too that this system does not account for any Flavorings added, so that would likely be shown differently. I'm not into Flavorings yet (hence my name 100%VG), so just pay attention to how things are listed for your E-Liquids.
Happy Hunting!!! :toast:
 
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wow guys. Thanks so much for ALL the helpful replies...
Now you guys got me thinking.....Now im not so sure that I really NEEEEED a cig-a-like, but I definitely don't want a CIGAR-a-like.
Something in the middle could work for me.
I was looking at the Halo G6 kits, they look nice for a cig a like, and seem like they have good review.
But, every smoke shop I enter, all I hear is EGO.
And, you guys seem to know what you are talking about of course, so I will definitely listen to you guys.
I like those apollos, and the ones in the pic from Baditude don't look too bad either, if they are really a big step up from the cig a likes.

eGo is really popular. I'm a recent convert myself. :)

Katya's right, if you have a shop to go to, go see and hold one. Yes, it is different than a cigarette and you'll have to do a bit of adjusting but they're quite light and the length of time the battery can last is a huge, huge plus.

But, if you really feel a "cig-a-like" style could be a big part of getting you away from smoking, go for it. You can always upgrade later. And there is something to be said for the ones that imitate cigs at least at the beginning. They fit the habits you build up as a smoker a little better. Maybe help in switching.

You can "move up" later. In fact, as you get experience in the vaping world, you probably will. But you'll also have a much more clear idea of what you're doing and what works for you. And you don't have to buy whole "kits" later, you'll be able to shop around and pick out bit and pieces and widgets. When I switched to my eGo Twist, I bought just a battery and charger. My cartos fit the eGo (which has 510 threads as well as eGo threads) and it was kind of a "drop in" replacement.

I don't know what the threads are for the Halo or Volt or such. Somebody else here will. That will be important in time. The screw threads determine what works with what. I had 510 threads on everything so when I got the eGo, switching was "take carto off old battery, put on eGo, vape".
 
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Okay, well.....The ego twist doesn't seem all that big i guess. But, I think i will do what you guys recommend, and start with something like the g6, and im sure in no time i will be upgrading anyways. Silly question....What is VG and PG? Are these flavors?

I hope the g6 will hold up for a little bit, until I get some more money, time to research, and other options to try out. I may get an extra battery if they don't last more than a hour or two. I smoke a lot of analogs, so Im sure I will be vaping a lot. As it is now, even with the analogs, and starting to mess around with the Blu disposables, i go through one Blu every other day. So, that kinda sux. Thanks so much for all the advice.

dave

Oh, and by the way....IF i do order the G6, and like I said I smoke analog NewPorts, what would be the best liquid from them to start with, as Im limited on cash and don't want to go all out just yet.

And, they also have the option for LR carts. Do i need these, or should I stay cheap with the simple starter kit with prefilled carts? Thanks!
 
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Okay, well.....The ego twist doesn't seem all that big i guess. But, I think i will do what you guys recommend, and start with something like the g6, and im sure in no time i will be upgrading anyways. Silly question....What is VG and PG? Are these flavors?

I hope the g6 will hold up for a little bit, until I get some more money, time to research, and other options to try out. I may get an extra battery if they don't last more than a hour or two. I smoke a lot of analogs, so Im sure I will be vaping a lot. As it is now, even with the analogs, and starting to mess around with the Blu disposables, i go through one Blu every other day. So, that kinda sux. Thanks so much for all the advice.

dave

Oh, and by the way....IF i do order the G6, and like I said I smoke analog NewPorts, what would be the best liquid from them to start with, as Im limited on cash and don't want to go all out just yet.

And, they also have the option for LR carts. Do i need these, or should I stay cheap with the simple starter kit with prefilled carts? Thanks!

A "best" liquid is impossible to predict. A great deal of personal preference is involved. And it can go in unexpected directions. I smoked menthol cigs but don't like menthol liquids. Go figure? :)

If you're a heavy smoker, you'll want to try the higher end of the nicotine scale. Say around 18 to 24mg... ish. Though that can vary too depending on how much you end up vaping. I was a heavy smoker but dropped to 12mg because I vape often. 24 was too strong.

You'll end up sampling liquids so look for small bottles and "sample packs". You can start with prefilled cartos (that is, cartomizers) but to save money and have more liquid options, you'll want to do your own fills. It's not hard. Can be a little messy (or maybe that's me, I am a klutz :) ). But you can pick that up as you go. There are YouTube videos (and a lot) that show how it's done. That's how I learned.

Hm... the G6 is KR 808D-1 I think. At least according to here: [url]http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/244012-halo-g6-carts.html#post4674678[/URL].

Only issue there is if you did move to an eGo later, the cartos won't fit without some kind of adapter.

You know, if you really need to get going cheap, you could pop over to Cignot for a very nicely priced Joye 510. I like Cignot, they're one of the Forum Suppliers and I can tell you personally, they do great customer service.

That's a "cig-a-like" and you can get automatic batteries (that come on when you take a drag like the disposables) or manual (you push a button to fire up the carto). You get more control with manuals and autos can be damaged a bit more easily. Since it's 510, you could get prefilled cartos from any number of places as well as blanks when you decide to do your own fills. Also, if you moved up to an eGo, your cartos would fit the eGo. That's kind of the path I took. From a Blu to a Joye 510 to an eGo Twist.

'Course, that's me. At some point, in all of this, you'll have to say, "I want that one" and pull the trigger. Nobody can really tell you what will or won't work for you, only offer opinions (and, well, experience too).

But since you mention saving money, I thought of the Cignot kit. You don't want to blow too much money all at once since you'll be having to experiment with liquids and see what works for you and what flavors you like.

Silly question....What is VG and PG? Are these flavors?

Nah, not silly. PG and VG are the "base liquids". The liquids the nicotine and flavoring are mixed into and which actually make the vapor. You can get liquids in all PG or all VG or a mix of the two. And that's another matter of personal preference. PG tends to produce more "throat hit" and many say more flavor (though I don't get that from it myself) while VG is known for producing more vapor. I like vapor over "throat hit" so I lean toward the VG side. But where you'll end up, only you'll be able to find out. There are 50/50 mixes that let you "split the difference" if you want. I have several of those myself.

And, they also have the option for LR carts. Do i need these...

Nah. That's getting a bit "advanced". You'll want SR (standard resistance). The LR are low resistance. You may want to play around with those later but you have to know how they affect your batteries and stuff like that. I'd start with the plain, ordinary cartomizers for now.

Anyway, that's my 15 cents (inflation ya know). Read what others have to say. Halo has a lot of fans too. 510 doesn't "rule the world" or anything. It is widely supported so it's convenient but, as always, your mileage may vary...
 

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Okay, well.....The ego twist doesn't seem all that big i guess. But, I think i will do what you guys recommend, and start with something like the g6, and im sure in no time i will be upgrading anyways. Silly question....What is VG and PG? Are these flavors?

PG increases TH and flavor and is less viscous than VG; VG increases vapor production and mutes (or softens) flavoring. Most common ratio is 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG. I think it provides the best balance.

Here's a good read:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/177551-pg-vg-peg.html#post2977320[

I hope the g6 will hold up for a little bit, until I get some more money, time to research, and other options to try out. I may get an extra battery if they don't last more than a hour or two. I smoke a lot of analogs, so Im sure I will be vaping a lot. As it is now, even with the analogs, and starting to mess around with the Blu disposables, i go through one Blu every other day. So, that kinda sux. Thanks so much for all the advice.

You may also look at Smokeless Image Volt and compare prices--same hardware, different eliquids. You can mix and match, they are all kr808 threaded.

Smokeless Image | The Best Electronic Cigarette

IF i do order the G6, and like I said I smoke analog NewPorts, what would be the best liquid from them to start with, as Im limited on cash and don't want to go all out just yet.

If you're ordering from Halo, their menthols are very good, albeit different from other vendors' menthols--more complex. I really like Menthol Ice and Truepure. But they are all good. Order small samples first.

Other good vendors to try are Nhaler and Backwoods Brew; their menthols are very good; I like Nhaler's Nuport and plain menthol.

And, they also have the option for LR carts. Do i need these, or should I stay cheap with the simple starter kit with prefilled carts?

Lr cartos will supply warmer vape but they will also shorten your batteries' life. You choose. :)
 
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