Hi, new here and have a question. (Buying first reusable e-cig)

[Nermal]

I never used the v2, deadmeadow, but the first thing that jumped out is that the kit comes with only one battery. If you like the setup and vaping at all, you will be ordering at least one more battery within days of starting. I started with a somewhat similar Prosmoke kit, and it was driving me nuts with cartridges running dry and batteries being discharged. They don't happen at the same time, so you're always fiddling with the darn things. On a positive note, it does look like you can refill the cartridges, though I won't promise.

It looks like the others have kind of sold you on better equipment. This is good.

 

[Jfaria1891]

I never used the v2, deadmeadow, but the first thing that jumped out is that the kit comes with only one battery. If you like the setup and vaping at all, you will be ordering at least one more battery within days of starting. I started with a somewhat similar Prosmoke kit, and it was driving me nuts with cartridges running dry and batteries being discharged. They don't happen at the same time, so you're always fiddling with the darn things. On a positive note, it does look like you can refill the cartridges, though I won't promise.

It looks like the others have kind of sold you on better equipment. This is good.

Also started on a prosmoke haha what a piece of crap they were XD

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[Nermal]

Hey, when every thing was working at the same time, I liked it really well. I do wish I hadn't invested in more cartridges, batteries, and atomizers. High cost of education, I guess.

 

[The Ocelot]

*****This is Off-Topic*****

Well, actually it isn't, but it isn't directed specifically at this thread. I was ticked off by another thread earlier today and wrote one of my rants to get it out of my system. I didn't post it (I try not to post anything whilst growling), but I still think I have a valid point.

Again! This is not directed at this thread or anyone posting on this thread or any specific animal, mineral or vegetable. I'm just posting this highlight since I'm about to delete the document. I may delete this post in 10 minutes, who knows? It just came to mind when the OP mentioned being overwhelmed.

Oops! I scared off another one! Just for the folks reading along, I have lots of different PVs and like all of them for different reasons. There is no "best." It drives me nuts when I read recommendations to new vapers for devices beyond their budget, but more importantly beyond their comfort level.

It's often forgotten that when people first start vaping they may not believe it will work and don't want to spend a lot of money. It also does them a disservice to suggest that "anything other than...<insert name of current hot toy>...is junk." That sets up a potential viscous circle: I can't afford the good stuff, but I don't want to buy junk, but even the junk is expensive, which means I'll be wasting money...

Quitting tobacco is very stressful, remember? People who come here are often depressed and anxious, feeling that if this doesn't work there is no place else to turn. Certainly having a good set-up and good juice makes the transition easier, but so does appropriately addressing the OP's needs. Why start them out feeling like they might fail anyway? I would much rather have a new member reading the forum while vaping away on a $60 cheap kit, moaning about how they've blown $60 bucks when they could have gotten XXX, than have them not vaping at all because they don't understand the choices.

Most of the gear currently recommended to beginners didn't even exist 18 months ago!

Now back to our regularly schedule thread currently in progress...

 

[Susiejo]

This is a very good starter kit. 2 batteries, 2 Ce5 clearomizers, and a charger. Everything you need to get started except some e juice and you can get great prices for that at mt baker vapors.

DV eGo-T Starter Kit - Stainless - 900mah

Believe me, I know where your at because I haven't been vaping very long myself and I had no idea what I was doing, but if I can understand all of this now, you'll be able to also.

~Susiejo

 

[deadmeadow]

This is a very good starter kit. 2 batteries, 2 Ce5 clearomizers, and a charger. Everything you need to get started except some e juice and you can get great prices for that at mt baker vapors.

DV eGo-T Starter Kit - Stainless - 900mah

Believe me, I know where your at because I haven't been vaping very long myself and I had no idea what I was doing, but if I can understand all of this now, you'll be able to also.

~Susiejo

Now I don't have a lot of experience as you guys know but this seems like a pretty good deal to me, what do you guys think?
Bill said the ce5 cartomizers are not as good as evod or protank though but they should do alright right?

Should I just jump on this and order some e-liquid?

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

*****This is Off-Topic*****

Well, actually it isn't, but it isn't directed specifically at this thread. I was ticked off by another thread earlier today and wrote one of my rants to get it out of my system. I didn't post it (I try not to post anything whilst growling), but I still think I have a valid point.

Again! This is not directed at this thread or anyone posting on this thread or any specific animal, mineral or vegetable. I'm just posting this highlight since I'm about to delete the document. I may delete this post in 10 minutes, who knows? It just came to mind when the OP mentioned being overwhelmed.

Oops! I scared off another one! Just for the folks reading along, I have lots of different PVs and like all of them for different reasons. There is no "best." It drives me nuts when I read recommendations to new vapers for devices beyond their budget, but more importantly beyond their comfort level.

It's often forgotten that when people first start vaping they may not believe it will work and don't want to spend a lot of money. It also does them a disservice to suggest that "anything other than...<insert name of current hot toy>...is junk." That sets up a potential viscous circle: I can't afford the good stuff, but I don't want to buy junk, but even the junk is expensive, which means I'll be wasting money...

Quitting tobacco is very stressful, remember? People who come here are often depressed and anxious, feeling that if this doesn't work there is no place else to turn. Certainly having a good set-up and good juice makes the transition easier, but so does appropriately addressing the OP's needs. Why start them out feeling like they might fail anyway? I would much rather have a new member reading the forum while vaping away on a $60 cheap kit, moaning about how they've blown $60 bucks when they could have gotten XXX, than have them not vaping at all because they don't understand the choices.

Most of the gear currently recommended to beginners didn't even exist 18 months ago!

Now back to our regularly schedule thread currently in progress...

Totally agree and you have a valid point. I am sometime guilty of recommending gear beyond a budget and should be more sensitive, I admit. And it does take what it takes to get started, and often at lower budgets than what may be required to beat the smoking monster. I, too, hear many stories though of the cig-a-likes that don't work, and the frustration that noobs feel when they invest their money, only to discover a week or two later that they did buy something that they want to replace. Sometimes I hear the familiar, "Get a Vamo" to the newcomer, and that drives me nuts. So, seriously, should we recommend, for example, a cig-a-like, or a one battery setup to start, when we know that it's inadequate. If that is what we should do, and if that is the most sensitive thing to do, then I'll change my recommendations right now. The thing I want for the beginner is to beat the smoking monster. For me it was tough, and took some serious gear. Inferior gear in 2009, and again in 2011, kept me smoking. Enter 2013, everything you could possibly dream of. If it's confusing to me how best to respond to the newcomer, just think how difficult it must be for the first time vaper, who just posted their first post. It's a quandary. I know this is off topic, but I'd really like to know what is best for us to do in this situation. Your so-called rant looked an awful lot like common sense to me, btw. Keep it coming.

 

[fabricator4]

I'm considering this kit
eGO-T Junior Starter Kit w/ 900mah Variable Voltage Battery

and then buying some e-liquid from the website bill recommended.

The 'Junior' kit only has one battery and one atomiser. You will need something to vape on for the 2 hours it is charging. Yes you might be able to get by, but then what happens if it breaks, or you lose it, or the atomiser stops working correctly. Don't learn the hard way (like I did) that gnawing your fingers off while waiting for a new battery to arrive in the post is a miserable way to spend two days. Backup plans are very important. You'll get more stuff eventually, with the money you save from not smoking.

Speaking of which, how much did you spend on smoking a week? How much is the kit? Perspective? Put a price on your health?

The kit that Bill suggested is better than the one I linked because the batteries are variable voltage. This is a good thing, because you can fine tune things to suit the juice and device on the battery. If you really don't want to go there, have another look at the kit that I suggested. There's replaceable parts inside both the Evod and the clearomiser that come with Bill's kit. You'll want to get some spares of those as well. Pick a kit and we'll advise you the best ones to get.

 

[Susiejo]

I have been vaping for about 3 months and I still love my Ce5's. I just bought some more the other day (I like to switch between e juice flavors a lot so I always have several clearo's sitting around with my favorite flavors in them). I also have some evods and a couple of Protanks and I like them all, but for just starting out I really recommend this kit, then you can have time to research and upgrade to other things as you have time and money to do so.


The kit that fabrictor4 recommended is only $6 more and it is a good kit also. Either one would be a good start, then again anything that gets you off analogs is a good thing.

 

[Brevin28]

i just started ecigs again 2 weeks ago with an evod kit and im loving it. It's easy to use and clean. I recommend it!

 

[deadmeadow]

Alright guys screw it, ordering the evod kit and some juice from MT baker.
I thank you a lot on steering me in the right direction and saving me some money!

How long do you think a 50ML bottle of e liquid would last me if I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day?
And how long do you think the clearomizers (are they the same thing as atomitizers?) last until they need to be replaced or a new head?

Man can't wait, I can taste that mt baker green candy apple rings vapor on the wind already!

 

[The Ocelot]

Totally agree and you have a valid point. I am sometime guilty of recommending gear beyond a budget and should be more sensitive, I admit. And it does take what it takes to get started, and often at lower budgets than what may be required to beat the smoking monster. I, too, hear many stories though of the cig-a-likes that don't work, and the frustration that noobs feel when they invest their money, only to discover a week or two later that they did buy something that they want to replace. Sometimes I hear the familiar, "Get a Vamo" to the newcomer, and that drives me nuts. So, seriously, should we recommend, for example, a cig-a-like, or a one battery setup to start, when we know that it's inadequate. If that is what we should do, and if that is the most sensitive thing to do, then I'll change my recommendations right now. The thing I want for the beginner is to beat the smoking monster. For me it was tough, and took some serious gear. Inferior gear in 2009, and again in 2011, kept me smoking. Enter 2013, everything you could possibly dream of. If it's confusing to me how best to respond to the newcomer, just think how difficult it must be for the first time vaper, who just posted their first post. It's a quandary. I know this is off topic, but I'd really like to know what is best for us to do in this situation. Your so-called rant looked an awful lot like common sense to me, btw. Keep it coming.

I'm a strange cookie (duh). It takes me a very long time to reach my opinionated opinions, because I have a problem with seeing too many points of view at the same time. I have talked to many new vapers and have written quite a bit about "making the leap," but I'm still analyzing the information. For now:

We want to help others to stop smoking. That's the simple truth. Listening to what someone is asking about and addressing their current situation is more helpful than 6 people telling them to get 6 different things and posting a power chart. I vaped for almost 5 months before I got a Twist. lol!

 

[Susiejo]

How long your clearo/atty's last depends on many things. The darker e juices tend to be harder on them and so does higher vg juices. I have to use high vg juice as I don't react we'll to pg, so mine last anywhere fron 1-2 weeks but I also have had trouble learning to clean my heads so that doesn't help. Some people say to help them last longer you should clean them every 2-3 tankfuls so they may last even longer. And every once in a while I get a bad replacement head and it tastes burnt after about 1 day, so it is all kinda relative.

 

[Lessifer]

Alright guys screw it, ordering the evod kit and some juice from MT baker.
I thank you a lot on steering me in the right direction and saving me some money!

How long do you think a 50ML bottle of e liquid would last me if I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day?
And how long do you think the clearomizers (are they the same thing as atomitizers?) last until they need to be replaced or a new head?

Man can't wait, I can taste that mt baker green candy apple rings vapor on the wind already!

Good choices for gear, and for juice. I love Mt. Baker but I will suggest you try a fairly wide selection of juices, their tobaccos are not their strong suit. Also, keep an eye out for a warning on the flavors that might crack plastic tanks(usually citrus and/or cinnamon). My favorites right now are "Rob" "Grappler" and "Freckled Lemonade(THIS WILL CRACK PLASTIC)".

As for how much juice you'll go through, it kind of depends on you, average is between 2-7ml a day. I'd start off with at least 18mg nicotine juice, or 24mg, or better yet get some of both.

As for the clearomizer heads, depending on use and what juices you run they should last for 2-4 weeks or longer. Make sure you watch some youtube vids on how to clean/care for them.

Congrats on making the switch to vaping and I wish you the best of luck. Never be shy about asking questions, the worst that can happen here is you get way more info than you're looking for

 

[The Ocelot]

Alright guys screw it, ordering the evod kit and some juice from MT baker.
I thank you a lot on steering me in the right direction and saving me some money!

How long do you think a 50ML bottle of e liquid would last me if I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day?
And how long do you think the clearomizers (are they the same thing as atomitizers?) last until they need to be replaced or a new head?

Man can't wait, I can taste that mt baker green candy apple rings vapor on the wind already!

Lol! I smoked 1.5 PAD and use about 3-4ml of juice per day.

Be forewarned, when you stop smoking your taste buds are going to go through some changes as they heal. You may not be able to taste very many juices in the beginning - I couldn't taste anything other than mints & menthol for about 2 months. I always suggest people get as many small bottles of different flavors as fits their budget - and go all over the board, try a couple of things you can't imagine you might like. Vaping is weird that way. My other suggestion is to get several different kinds of juice delivery systems: top coil, bottom coil, cartos, whatever. They don't have to be expensive, but it will give you options to experiment with.

 

[Brevin28]

if your starting out id recommend getting a couple smaller bottle of juice to try different flavors and find one you like. Trust me it doesn't matter they are smaller bottles you will be itching for a re-order within a week! lol Then get a larger bottle of flavor! good luck!

and for the heads depending where you get the kit because mine came with 5 replacement heads (not including the 2 on the evods already) but im 2 weeks in and they are still going strong... ive been told anywhere from 2 weeks to a month for the heads.

you can also rebuild the heads by checking out the forum or youtube for instructions

 

[Susiejo]

Lol! I smoked 1.5 PAD and use about 3-4ml of juice per day.

Be forewarned, when you stop smoking your taste buds are going to go through some changes as they heal. You may not be able to taste very many juices in the beginning - I couldn't taste anything other than mints & menthol for about 2 months. I always suggest people get as many small bottles of different flavors as fits their budget - and go all over the board, try a couple of things you can't imagine you might like. Vaping is weird that way. My other suggestion is to get several different kind of juice delivery systems: top coil, bottom coil, cartos, whatever. They don't have to be expensive, but it will give you options to experiment with.

I know what you mean about liking flavors you don't think you will. I do not like mint at all, I don't like peppermint patties or even mint gums but the other day I was at our local vape shop and the lady there was testing out a new juice they were thinking about starting to carry so she let me try it and....OMG! It was heavenly, and it was mint chocolate chip! If they start to carry that flavor I will buy some!

 

[Lessifer]

*****This is Off-Topic*****

Well, actually it isn't, but it isn't directed specifically at this thread. I was ticked off by another thread earlier today and wrote one of my rants to get it out of my system. I didn't post it (I try not to post anything whilst growling), but I still think I have a valid point.

Again! This is not directed at this thread or anyone posting on this thread or any specific animal, mineral or vegetable. I'm just posting this highlight since I'm about to delete the document. I may delete this post in 10 minutes, who knows? It just came to mind when the OP mentioned being overwhelmed.

Oops! I scared off another one! Just for the folks reading along, I have lots of different PVs and like all of them for different reasons. There is no "best." It drives me nuts when I read recommendations to new vapers for devices beyond their budget, but more importantly beyond their comfort level.

It's often forgotten that when people first start vaping they may not believe it will work and don't want to spend a lot of money. It also does them a disservice to suggest that "anything other than...<insert name of current hot toy>...is junk." That sets up a potential viscous circle: I can't afford the good stuff, but I don't want to buy junk, but even the junk is expensive, which means I'll be wasting money...

Quitting tobacco is very stressful, remember? People who come here are often depressed and anxious, feeling that if this doesn't work there is no place else to turn. Certainly having a good set-up and good juice makes the transition easier, but so does appropriately addressing the OP's needs. Why start them out feeling like they might fail anyway? I would much rather have a new member reading the forum while vaping away on a $60 cheap kit, moaning about how they've blown $60 bucks when they could have gotten XXX, than have them not vaping at all because they don't understand the choices.

Most of the gear currently recommended to beginners didn't even exist 18 months ago!

Now back to our regularly schedule thread currently in progress...

Ocelot, you're great, really I was in pretty much the same boat as the OP not too long ago, about 5 months according to my sig. I had tried a couple disposables, I had one online friend that vaped, he pointed me here. I also didn't have a whole lot of money to spend on something that might not work.

The thing that irks me the most on this forum is when a new person asks for recommendations, gives a budget range that's usually around $50 or less, and then someone tells them to save themselves from regret and just start off with a provari(pro-thingy?). Yes, the provari is a great investment, a wonderful APV; but if you're someone that wants to quit smoking and maybe has spent good money on other aids in the past like the gum or the patch, you're probably reluctant to shell out money for something that may or may not work.

I started with a basic $20 ego kit, 900mah 3.7v with a ce4 and a charger. I liked it, I could go a whole day on one battery and the vapor I got was satisfactory. I thought to myself "I should get my wife to vape." I bought an ego vv battery and some more clearos, and a bunch of juice. I love vaping, my wife doesn't. She can't seem to get away from smoking, I'm pretty sure it's psychological but I can't force her to vape, oh well. After a few months of using my original equipment I've moved on to bigger better things, I now have a vamo and an aga-t, with some more toys on the way.

If my choices in the beginning were a $60 cig-a-like kit or a $200 APV, I would have chosen to stay with the analogs because I couldn't have afforded either of those to take a chance.

tl;dr version:
I think it's important for us to actually read what a new member says before we make a suggestion.

 

[Susiejo]

Alright guys screw it, ordering the evod kit and some juice from MT baker.
I thank you a lot on steering me in the right direction and saving me some money!

How long do you think a 50ML bottle of e liquid would last me if I used to smoke 1-2 packs a day?
And how long do you think the clearomizers (are they the same thing as atomitizers?) last until they need to be replaced or a new head?

Man can't wait, I can taste that mt baker green candy apple rings vapor on the wind already!

Also watch for juices that will crack tanks. There are many posts on here about which juices to watch out for. If there are some juices that you want that might crack your tank, buy a Kanger Protank, I bought 2 just for that reason. I wanted some cinnamon e juice and it can damage tanks so I got my Protanks and I love them but they are kinda pricey.
This is the cheapest place I have found the Protank, it is about $15 and right now they are out of stock. But they usually get them back in pretty quick.

Kanger Pro Tank SPECIAL - SHORT TERM SALE | iVAPE

 

[deadmeadow]

Just placed my order for the evod kit.
Then for my Mt. Baker order I decided to do a little more research and many people recommend the butterscotch flavor, and I'm definitely a fan of butterscotch, got the 50ml 50/50 bottle (extra strength nic to start) and added an extra flavor shot.

Boy am I excited can't wait, hope the butterscotch flavor won't crack my tank.