High Current Vaping

[tonyfalkon]

I was wondering if this has been discussed b4 and if so please direct me to the right thread, if not why have this been not discussed b4. Before I continue on I wanna stop here and see if this has been discussed b4 and save my self from certain embarrassment and if not I will share some of my experiences in vaping on high current.

 

[Diablo1399]

High current or high voltage? High voltage produces a hotter atomiser and more vapour. No idea what the benefits of high current are. . .

 

[tonyfalkon]

High current or high voltage? High voltage produces a hotter atomiser and more vapour. No idea what the benefits of high current are. . .

High current not high voltage, you can always add more batteries to go higher voltage but then you run into problems like short atty life, either that or go to HV atty's.

Some vendors are actually selling high current power supply for passthrough's now meaning power supply with 2 amp current ratings, before any old 5v power supply will do.

I learned early on why people turn to mods battery life really sucks on those slim batteries supplied with regular ecigs. So go higher voltage it produces more smoke better throat hit, instead of going high voltage why not go higher current. Typically those lithium batteries that you buy are 3.0, 3.6 and 3.7 volts. With MaH ratings ranging from 180 to 3000, but has anyone considered what the discharge capacity on these cheap lithium batteries are?? they are usually at 500ma for those smaller batteries even lower than that.

Why not find a better battery that can supply a higher discharge rate amp wise I mean, from 500ma to 1.5 amps all the way to 5 amps. Its gonna be more expensive yes but, it'll fit the job.

 

[quasimod]

The batteries used in PV's are higher amp batteries, just put one in a flashlight and see for yourself (POP!) I don't think 500 mA would even be enough to operate an atty.

I'm not aware of higher Amp power supplies for passthroughs. I would certainly be interested in a wall-adapter that put out 5 volts @ 2 Amps.

 

[tonyfalkon]

The batteries used in PV's are higher amp batteries, just put one in a flashlight and see for yourself (POP!) I don't think 500 mA would even be enough to operate an atty.

I'm not aware of higher Amp power supplies for passthroughs. I would certainly be interested in a wall-adapter that put out 5 volts @ 2 Amps.

They have a higher capacity yes but what I am talking about is higher discharge rates. Here is a comparison Tenergy and AW or the ever popular Yellow Tenergy Battery and the 16340 AW not to mention this one AW IMR16340 but its unprotected.

With regards to higher amp power supplies I saw in the classifieds 3 days ago someone was selling them not sure who or how much. Vaprlife.com VP-PT (USB PASS THRU) is selling theirs with a 2 amp power supply.

 

[Fairlane64]

Higher current does seem to make a difference (at least in my experience), it seems to give a slightly fuller hit with a bit more flavor. I've used an old computer power supply to power attys before, they supply plenty of current, and can be found for almost nothing if you look around for discarded computers or parts.

Link here to post on ECF about using computer power supplies: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/60739-pc-power-supply-510-atty.html#post911856

 

[UberDuper]

Current is determined by the draw, not the source. You could use a 50amp marine battery on your atty if it would survive the 12v and it wouldn't make a diff.

UD.

 

[5th Element]

i recommend 5v 2a wall and car adapters for 5v pt vaping

 

[tonyfalkon]

Current is determined by the draw, not the source. You could use a 50amp marine battery on your atty if it would survive the 12v and it wouldn't make a diff.

UD.

It did in my experience, I started with 36mg juice when I was still using the slim batteries, when I upgraded to HV vaping I went down to 9mg. When my High Voltage, High Current passthru project was completed I dialed further down to 4mg of nic reason being that my first 4 puffs off the passthru it felt like smoking real cigs after you have stop for 2 days. And even at 4mg I can't chain vape like I used to otherwise the nic hit alone makes me light headed. I didn't change the formula on my juices either well except of course I diluted my regular brew.

 

[tonyfalkon]

i recommend 5v 2a wall and car adapters for 5v pt vaping

I use 2.4A wall and 3.5A car, I think I need a better one for the car though coz every time I take a hit in the car I can hear it thru the car speakers.

 

[j0ker]

The voltage and resistance will determine the current. It's ohms law. Like UberDuper said, the resistance of the atty and the voltage supplied will determine the current.

Example:
2.5 ohm is generally the resistance of 510 atty
Equation for determining current E / R = I
I=current
E=Voltage
R=Resistance

5 volt / 2.5 ohm = 2.0a
3.7 volt / 2.5 ohm = 1.5a

The current rating on a power supply is the most it's capable of producing, not how much it sends out. The amount of current is determined by the load (atty). If the voltage and resistance remains constant, it wouldn't matter if you hooked up a 10 amp power supply it will always draw the same amount of current.

 

[tonyfalkon]

Higher current does seem to make a difference (at least in my experience), it seems to give a slightly fuller hit with a bit more flavor. I've used an old computer power supply to power attys before, they supply plenty of current, and can be found for almost nothing if you look around for discarded computers or parts.

Link here to post on ECF about using computer power supplies: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/60739-pc-power-supply-510-atty.html#post911856

Have you noticed that the atty get hotter faster but cools down just as fast. I'm using the HV atty's that I bought from EM the 801's get this way. But the HV510's are different though also from EM they don't seem to get hot and I don't get the same full flavor that I get from using HV801's. I tried them at 4.5v then 5v and finally 6v I can go 6.5v but I don't wanna chance it. I haven't tried the EM HV901, the ikenvape HV510 or the HV901's yet. I wanna test for a week then I'll move to the others.

Reason I'm using HV atty's is because they are the only ones available to me right now, I do have I regular 801 atty but it tends to get hotter faster than the HV one whether 5v or 6v. Hopefully the regular attys will come in by the time I'm done testing the HV atty's.

 

[tonyfalkon]

The voltage and resistance will determine the current. It's ohms law. Like UberDuper said, the resistance of the atty and the voltage supplied will determine the current.

Example:
2.5 ohm is generally the resistance of 510 atty
Equation for determining current E / R = I
I=current
E=Voltage
R=Resistance

5 volt / 2.5 ohm = 2.0a
3.7 volt / 2.5 ohm = 1.5a

The current rating on a power supply is the most it's capable of producing, not how much it sends out. The amount of current is determined by the load (atty). If the voltage and resistance remains constant, it wouldn't matter if you hooked up a 10 amp power supply it will always draw the same amount of current.

I understand where uber and you are coming from, what I am trying to get at is the vaping experience you get from a setup that can take the abuse of an atty. Law is law but what happens if your power supply is only capable of 1amp production what happens to the voltage, when I was testing another project of mine using 2 3.7v batteries I put a multimeter to test the battery power when the atty is attached(under load) The batteries just came out of the charger and they were reading at 8.4 when the atty was in use the reading went down to 5.9, if you look at PS v2 testing under load the battery meter reading went down to 5.2v, they also mentioned that in the v2 section of their site.

Now imagine a regulated power source that can supply 5v @ 2.0A constantly, would it not change the vaping experience because non of the components(as it were) are compromised.

 

[Vapinginjapan]

If you had 3.7v batteries that were voltage regulated, then you'd need to beef them up to put up with the abuse.

But there are quite a few mods kicking around that have 5v regulators. Theoretically using one of these mods means that you are getting your 5v 2a of current, all the time.

Simply speaking, an atty at a certain voltage has a current cap, once it hits that cap (like the above example, 2 amps) it will draw no more current. Thus, the things you need in place are a battery that can handle the amps and a voltage regulator.

Sadly, the chances that a good voltage regulator will fit inside a normal e-cig battery are slim. And I find dragging mods around to be a bit cumbersome. So I'm satisfied with my PCC and my normal batteries.

What REALLY needs improvement, is juice delivery. This is a problem that i'm working on at the moment. All of the current and voltage in the world won't do you an ounce of good if your juice delivery system sucks.

 

[tonyfalkon]

I started this thread to see if there are other people out there who have experienced any difference between vaping regular lithium batteries and the high end ones and power supply that can give out more than 1amp. I am not selling and/or endorsing any particular brand of batteries or power supplies to be used in conjunction with your current setup. With that said please refrain from commenting and/or mentioning subtle hints of other problems and/or innovations that is not related to the topic.

 

[quasimod]

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