Vaping may deepen your nicotine addiction?

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martinc

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Sometimes I forget my PV while going at the park with the dog...I dont turn around and dont miss it either.

Most of the time I dont even vape while walking my dog.

The urge is long gone,I mostly enjoy vaping for the smell,the taste (made me lay-off candies too) and the puzzled looks I get from my svoemesto sticker
 

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However, a lot of times I find myself vaping constantly or at least vaping more often than b4 when I smoked.

Keep in mind that the nicotine absorption is different. With cigarettes, it's very fast. Inhaling the smoke into your lungs gets the nicotine (and all kinds of other chemicals) into your blood stream quickly and I've read it can reach your brain in as little as seven seconds. With vaping, the absorption is mainly in the mouth and nasal passages, is probably less "per puff", and is slower.

I doubt you're "deepening" the addiction. Instead, you're trying to attain the same level of nicotine that you had before. But with vaping, it may require more use to get to, call it, the same place. The tobacco corporations have also manipulated cigarettes (and I'm sure all other tobacco products) to make them even more addictive, making the nicotine more, oh, "effective" as it were. So it doesn't surprise me that I vape a lot. I've been at this maybe six weeks now and it's been only the last week or two that I've completely abandoned cigarettes. I notice I want a cig a great deal in the morning. I've been up for some time today but still feel that "pull". I suspect it's because the level of nicotine rises slower with vaping. Before the last couple of weeks (or somewhere in there), I would have had one cig to get the quick nicotine then coasted along fine on vaping. Lately, I really just don't like cigs and don't want to do that so I'm vaping like a maniac trying to bring my nicotine levels up.

I figure in time I'll level off. I haven't been at this all that long. And haven't been truly "cig free" long at all (I slowed way, way down from day one of vaping but still would have between one and three a day for a while, then dropped further until I realized I really just don't like the things anymore and started not wanting to give in at all).

I would say you've simply switched the way you get your nicotine and are trying to reach the same level you're used to. But since the "delivery system" works differently, your behavior is different.
 

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The answer for me is no, I found also along with what the other members are saying about cutting down on MG's, I find I can go longer putting my PV aside a while, while walking,Visiting, working Etc.

I find this to be very true. I've cut back on the nic level, and I find myself going longer and longer between vapes. I definitely couldn't do that on analogs.
 

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Yea i find that chain vape normally occured pretty similar to as when your're introduced to a new hobby/lifestyle.
when you first had it, you're easily aroused by it, walked extra miles to take great care of it, eagerness to try out more stuffs when you learnt along the way. IMO i guess that's where the fun actually is.
Maybe to the extend that causes you to worry alittle, that it might strengthen your nic intake afterall..
Hmm for me, took awhile to digest and get used to it, the urge for vape actually ease out on me, just like before and after married lol. Can go hours without it during work, found it much more controllable than compared to lighting analogs. i guess we quit analog for many good reasons.
As we were nic-seekers, i think that will be the last item to get lowered as times goes by, somewhere along the way you'll realised yourself likely be paying more attention to vapours & flavours productions, if you know what i meant ;P
 
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Seems weird when switching over ya. I am a chain vapor, used to smoke a half a pack a day. But as Other have said you are getting less nic then when smoking. Also I like the flavor and it is a little psychological for me, so now that I have been at it for over a year and a half I have lowered my nic intake.
 

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That's what's going on with me.

"You can have both. Nobody will know. You don't have to tell those ECF people. They're on the web, they can't see you."

My brain's a devious ..........

Well, I caved last night...just couldn't take being so amped up before bed. Went outside, had 1/2 an analog (yuck!), felt much better though and was able to go right to sleep. No cravings at all today so far.

I'm not beating myself up over it--back on the wagon I go! Oh well, I should have known it might happen. Do I have to start my ticker back at 0?
 

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The short answer is no. Unless you are adding ammonia to your e-liquid there is 0 chance it will be more addictive or even as addictive by comparison to commercially produced tobacco which is loaded with all sorts of nasty chemicals with ammonia being perhaps the most problematic. Check this out The Secret of Marlboro's Success: Freebase Nicotine | PR Watch


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yeah man ...been trying to quit for a while and couldnt ...so i went on a fact finding mission to understand why it was so hard...there is a awesome site called Why quit ,com...it explains alot of what i said alot better than me.... doctors and such.

Yep. WhyQuit was very helpful for me prior to finding ECF.

As for the cig manufacturers' adding chemicals to cigs in the 1970s, I will add this:

I am 64 yrs old. When I was little, I never saw an adult chain smoke like I do today. Adults back then would have a cig here & there, but not constantly all day. They would have a cig after lunch, a couple at night. Maybe one in the afternoon. Maybe 3 at a party. It is very different today. That is why I think the addiction today is supplemented by the additives in the cigs. Very bad stuff.

If I need a cig I smoke either Sherman's or American Spirit. But I haven't had one in quite some time now thanks to vaping.
 

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This is happening to me, after 2 weeks of literally not even thinking about smoking. All of a sudden now my brain is telling me I NEED a cigarette before bed. Has happened the last 2 nights.

So what do I do? Sit down here and vape while I read some new posts! :D

You reject what your brain is saying and you vape threw it, reinforce the e-cig in the brain that way, telling your self this is the new reality and the only way your going to get nicotine from now on, even if you have to say it loud. The brain is going to be very powerful in what it wants you have to be more powerful and stubborn with your self. People may say this sound nuts but it works.
 

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P.S. staying on a low nic style vaping is good, it is also used as Therapeutic purposes in the hospital (There's research to it and you can look it up on google) . Some hospitals even allow patients to vape in the hospital room.
i wondered about that...apparently my lung capacity is MUCH higher than i ever knew and i kept thinking "hmmm am i working out my lungs vaping?"
my mom (non-smoker) developed pleurisy that collapsed the lower lobe of her left lung due to her doctor repeatedly telling her she had a "cold"...for like 6 weeks...and to get plenty of bed rest. she had a suck in/blow out device to strengthen/repair her lungs
so now i wonder if vaping actually speeds up the reparation process....

the brain connection is truly bizarre...this morning i went into the garage to get something and i was like "oh i should smoke while i'm here" and then i was like "hey dummy...you don't do that anymore" LOL
 

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For me, vaping means I could quit smoking w/o actually giving up anything 'good' (e.g., the nic, hand-to-mouth, etc.).
It was a frakking revelation.

It's really interesting reading about people cutting down on their nic, both that they are doing so willingly (lol) and w. such seeming ease.
Perhaps there will come a day when that seems like something I should do...but it's sure not today!

I chain-vape at 18mg, and it's been 2 months since I last set any vegetation on fire. Whatever works.
 

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I recommend you visit the online magazine spinfuel Spinfuel - An American Vaper Magazine, they have several articles regarding nicotine addiction when vaping (In short, you're absorbing waaay less nicotine than you're thinking). Please check the website, it'll help you understand your new world of vaping.

Can you post a direct link to the articles? Spinfuel is a jumbled mess, I never could find anything there.
 

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These include increased focus, mental sharpness, and a calming feeling, which is interesting considering that both are stimulants. In both cases this is probably due more to the lessening of withdraw symptoms as opposed to anything biochemical such as taking kava root for its calming effect.
Actually, the calming effect of nicotine is real, and well-documented...

BBC - Health: Nicotine
Although usually taken for its tranquillising and mildly mood-elevating properties, nicotine actually seems to have both a stimulant and a depressant effect - the effect at any time may depend on the circumstances in which it is used. So it may help with concentration or relax the user.
 

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I've been vaping since 2008. There were a couple periods where i had to quit vaping because I was traveling. During those times, I had nic w/ds pretty bad and went back to analogs. I have never been able to go down past 12mg. If I go without a vape for more than a few hours, I begin to feel like crap. This is the true negative of vaping. It is still an addiction, and if you don't have your fix, it will hurt. It has no real impacts on my health as far as I know;however, it is like a weight I have to carry around at all times. Both literally and figuratively.

Another negative, is spending too much money on supplies. Sometimes more than I would spend on analogs. If you are like me, your addictive personality can easy carry over into shopping for stuff. I spend money I don't have sometimes because I have this huge WANT feeling that I must satisfy. I have to be careful with my funds when it comes to vaping.

Overall, it's definitely better than any other addictions out there because it really won't have much impact on your life. However, at the end of the day, you're always gonna carry that extra weight. It still isn't something I would wish on anyone.
 

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I can only speak for myself, but vaping has greatly reduced my nicotine addiction.

I agree. I've had no issues lowering my nic levels (although I haven't gone below 12mg yet) and started at 24mg. Sometimes watching TV I find myself chain vaping, but for the most part I feel my nicotine dependency has dropped. I don't pop out of bed and first thing have a vape before I even get my pants on (like I did when smoking cigarettes). Same in the car, I used to chain smoke in the car on the way to work. Now, I don't usually vape in the car and it's a non issue.
 
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