High End REGULATED MODS !
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That is what one of the people at the B&M 5 minutes from work call some of my stuffs
I hate to say this. I just mentioned in the flask thread mine was delivered more like a clone than $300. I also hate to say check out my 1,000 posts in the sx mini thread. does all of china proud but same money will buy you better fit and finish too. however.... that yihi chip. well do not know about j yet. bet it is fine though. they are still getting dna40 right. how china of all places does it right first is beyond me. then add they can fix anything right from your pc anyways. but not mac! very racist if you ask me. j/k. on another note I would not buy a $$$ mod from far away. unless you are very loaded or an engineer. oh, and throw in gambler in case you even get it. ala grand innovations that has screwed all of us.
I wanted subtank plus for the airflow. got subtank and mini in one week. plus is gonna make me look foolish already. collect good mods? check. Chinese atty's? huh?
I wanted subtank plus for the airflow. got subtank and mini in one week. plus is gonna make me look foolish already. collect good mods? check. Chinese atty's? huh?
Kanger sub tanks may be Chinese..... But they are spot on, home run out of the park. Got rid of every other tank except for 1 kayfun lite..... Which with a Clapton coil is still an amazing flavor build tank.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
truer words never spoken. how odd the sx mini is a top mod and subtank which is a clearo is killing kfl+. year of the dragon! well year for china to dominate. I hope they start making everything good and Walmart shelves are lined with quality products.
I thought about bringing that up, but I was able to refrain.
Sorry, Peter.
Why, you, you - you enabler you!
/hehe - maybe they're all sold out.
Sorry, Rant Time... my first anyway.
...and I have always [successfully] talked / walked newbies out from buying counterfeits [clones]. If I'm a serious vaper, an experienced vaper, a knowledgeable vaper - and when s/he specifically seeks my opinion b'coz of that - I believe I will be doing a disservice to the community if I suggest him/her a counterfeit [clone].
There's no honor in discussing counterfeits [clones] let alone buying and using them. It's also appalling that folks throw in pics of them, sing accolades and feel happy about it. What, for a $20 item, which is also a replica (thus rip-off) of someone else's hardwork / brainwave? It is further deplorable when the propagator is also on hi-end gears, even if s/he is owner of a few. So, where's the accountability? The integrity, of the [supposedly] maestro?
If the question is of affordability, then there are good originals which cost much less, just a tad more than the counterfeits [clones]. And many of them work splendidly as we know. So, why suggest a counterfeit [clone]? Incidentally vaping circuit is also the only one where counterfeits are called 'clones' (sic)!
There are many higher influences [organizations] which are seriously going head-on as we write, trying to cut our vaping privileges, and by God the furure is scary. Then we ourselves are also fueling the downfall of this industry by propagating the counterfeits [clones], If they succeed, which by God they might - then we are equally to blame as well. This would be stupefying.
Sorry, rant over.
...and I have always [successfully] talked / walked newbies out from buying counterfeits [clones]. If I'm a serious vaper, an experienced vaper, a knowledgeable vaper - and when s/he specifically seeks my opinion b'coz of that - I believe I will be doing a disservice to the community if I suggest him/her a counterfeit [clone].
There's no honor in discussing counterfeits [clones] let alone buying and using them. It's also appalling that folks throw in pics of them, sing accolades and feel happy about it. What, for a $20 item, which is also a replica (thus rip-off) of someone else's hardwork / brainwave? It is further deplorable when the propagator is also on hi-end gears, even if s/he is owner of a few. So, where's the accountability? The integrity, of the [supposedly] maestro?
If the question is of affordability, then there are good originals which cost much less, just a tad more than the counterfeits [clones]. And many of them work splendidly as we know. So, why suggest a counterfeit [clone]? Incidentally vaping circuit is also the only one where counterfeits are called 'clones' (sic)!
There are many higher influences [organizations] which are seriously going head-on as we write, trying to cut our vaping privileges, and by God the furure is scary. Then we ourselves are also fueling the downfall of this industry by propagating the counterfeits [clones], If they succeed, which by God they might - then we are equally to blame as well. This would be stupefying.
Sorry, rant over.
i completely agree. I own no fake anything period. I despise rip off artists. did you have it set on key word "clone"? I fell that was directed at me. I said nothing of the sort. what I did say was my flask was delivered looking more like a clone. ie, with scratches and stuff wrong. I did not say it was a clone! it is indeed genuine just nothing that does me proud. I am sure they have better examples of it. sorry I even used the word. it had nothing to do with the actual act of buying counterfeit merchandise. indeed, in the clone thread you may have seen I gave money to a struggling person to purchase the clone. I figure no loss there even though I my have inadvertently helped support the jerks. I just handed someone money for a gift. personally I despise counterfeit merchandise. vape rip-offs are not a huge issue even though to us it is. take fake rolex I feel wearing one in public should be punishable with imprisonment. immoral, unethical, illegal. you got me wrong if you saw me mention clone anywhere. I roll 100% legit. helping someone to get a vape device was wrong but it still had some redeeming qualities. you know what I mean. I helped someone quit. sorry I did it now but at least it is not in my possession. in the other thread I should not of bashed the flask but that is just freedom of speech.
Hey brother, that post of mine was not directed at anyone. I just reposted here what I wrote on another thread (the 'rebuilable tank atty' thread).
Ps.: I have read your post here - and fully understood it's content.
Thanks bud. Its Picolobri Pyra XS stainless steel version with In'ax MK2R topper.
oh darnit. I got a ding in my hana b4s. yeah I know, so what happens. first one hurts the most.
I want to pique your minds though. how do I get magnets on this without any permanent modifications?
I want to pique your minds though. how do I get magnets on this without any permanent modifications?
I am having the same damn dilemma. I have had it in the cart a couple times and keep coming back to it.
Don't be sorry you helped someone. More times than not I feel people are taking the clone/authentic war way too far. Not everyone is in a position to spend (what may be a lot of money to them) on authentic gear. I don't care what a person uses to vape- the reward is they quit smoking!
If it has not been answered that is the Picolibri
I believe that vapinart has them in stock. I would look but I have banned my self from browsing vendors till the middle of march.
Go right ahead and browse........it's April!!
I know, it is my birthday tomorrow. I have too much stuff coming to browse. I meant the middle of May
My Galactika DNA40 and Chalice III will be here tomorrow. Probably going to pass the Chalice III on, it is not as good as the II and I have squonk atties that serve my purposes better than the Chalice anyways
I will give it another lash though.
I hate the way the word Clone is used around here.
There is a difference between Counterfeit and Clone. Every single person here uses cloned gear. Unless you have the original box mod or the original tube mod, the first one ever created, then you have a clone. Someone may have added refinements along the way, but it's still a clone, just like everyone else has.
Counterfeits carry logos and other distinguishing markings that are owned by someone else. They pass themselves off as a much higher priced designer product when they aren't.
A good analogy is blue jeans. Levi Strauss invented and patented the first ever pair of denim blue jeans. Every single company that makes them since has cloned Levi Strauss's design. They may add pretty stitching, or sparkles, or acid washed them to make them fade, or dyed them to make them black, but they're still all just clones of the Levi Strauss blue jeans design. Some are even extravagantly priced and called "designer jeans", but those are still clones that just copied Levi Strauss. Likewise we have designer mods that are extravagantly priced that people call "authentic" but in truth there is absolutely nothing authentic about them. They're all still clones of the box and tube mods that came before them with sparkles added so the seller can jack the price up and call them a designer mod.
Calvin Klein didn't invent the blue jeans and the people who made your "authentic" mod didn't invent the box/tube mod they made. They're expensive "designer" clones, and in the case of regulated mods, they probably didn't actually produce anything other than the case themselves. They didn't design and manufacture their own chips, their own buttons, their own wires, their own springs, all of the parts that make them work. They made an empty box or tube, and then assembled a bunch of 3rd party parts inside, and then charge hundreds of dollars for their "designer" mod. There is nothing "authentic" about them.
But then again, this is the same community that thinks that putting a bottle of e-juice on the shelf for a few weeks is called steeping, so I shouldn't be surprised by the rampant mis-use of words.
You have designer mods and counterfeit mods, along with generic mods and cheap mods. They're all clones of the original box/tube mods.
I do not support counterfeits that copy a designer mod makers trademarked designs, name, or logos. Deliberately using someone elses name, logo, or other markings is both ethically wrong and illegal. But I have no problem with generics which look similar and may even use the exact same internal parts, but do not carry the logos or other trademarked designs of the designer mod. That doesn't bother me any more than seeing generic breakfast cereal right next to the "authentic" breakfast cereal that it looks and tastes like.
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