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Well, it's not any less high-end than the Vapor Sharks and hana modz being posted here, so figured why not.
Its the great debate I suppose, but i personally wouldn't call a vaporshark, hana or sx mini high end.

What jaxgator posted to me is high end. But don't mind me, I'm just a snob!
 
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This just came in this past Friday. Pandora DNA40. Incredible device.

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Gorgeous mod jax!!!

Definitely something different than all the c-frame crazy going on right now. A lot of which seem to not care about being original from all the others.

Just beautiful ;)

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I don't really see a 'ultra' high end market. There are 3 levels of devices on the market imho.

1. Cheap and cheerful devices
2. Middle of the range devices (vaporshark, provari, sx mini)
3. High end. Pandora, Devers, Kitchen Mods, Melody box, Gepetto, Carlos Creations etc..

However there are a lot of modders that are trying to pass off their 'high end' devices that are very, very badly built with no QC whatsoever.
 
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It's tougher to define 'high end' in the regulated market, I think. With mechanicals, a superior switch design, for example, or a superior 510 top cap, or tube material could produce a different/better vape experience.

Here, a $100 DNA40 device is going to vape identical to a $800 DNA40. What you're paying for is fancy wood, exclusivity, etc., nothing else.

Now don't get me wrong, I can appreciate fine craftsmanship and rare wood, and hand made stuff. It's beautiful. They are works of art indeed. I just don't see the market for it lasting. But I could be wrong.

The board design and advances in regulated chips is moving so fast these days, it makes me hesitant to 'invest' in one of these.

It will be interesting to watch, that's for sure.
 
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thats kind of why im getting into basic circuitry, im studying to be an electric engineer anyways and gone through the physics, might as well put it into some sort of practice. I plan on finding a nice stainless steel enclosure and acid washing or image transferring some art onto it and use it as my base. Then once I get used to it, all I would need to do is swap out the boards every now and then when something new comes out. :)
 
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It's tougher to define 'high end' in the regulated market, I think. With mechanicals, a superior switch design, for example, or a superior 510 top cap, or tube material could produce a different/better vape experience.

Here, a $100 DNA40 device is going to vape identical to a $800 DNA40. What you're paying for is fancy wood, exclusivity, etc., nothing else.

Now don't get me wrong, I can appreciate fine craftsmanship and rare wood, and hand made stuff. It's beautiful. They are works of art indeed. I just don't see the market for it lasting. But I could be wrong.

The board design and advances in regulated chips is moving so fast these days, it makes me hesitant to 'invest' in one of these.

It will be interesting to watch, that's for sure.
the market for it already exists. As long as there are modders that are making these pieces of art, then there will be demand.

No one who has owned a Gepetto, Devers or melody box will have a collection of isticks, vaporsharks and egrips. Once you have held one of these mods in your hand, it is simply amazing how well built they are, and for me it really does change the Vaping experience when I have my devers in my hand....but I am a snob!
 

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Agreed. I think that the demand will still be there for "works of art" mods regardless of the chip they are using.

As redordead stated, when you hold one of these high-end devices, feel and see the quality and craftsmanship, it's quite the vaping experience. Hence my Incredible mod comment. Of course, I could just be a vaping snob like redordead.

On a side note: I just laughed at myself. I have always read redordead's screen name as reordered. I just noticed that it's Red or Dead. :laugh:
 

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Agreed. I think that the demand will still be there for "works of art" mods regardless of the chip they are using.

As redordead stated, when you hold one of these high-end devices, feel and see the quality and craftsmanship, it's quite the vaping experience. Hence my Incredible mod comment. Of course, I could just be a vaping snob like redordead.

On a side note: I just laughed at myself. I have always read redordead's screen name as reordered. I just noticed that it's Red or Dead. [emoji23]
Well, you are most definitely a snob, but that's beside the point ;)

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So the "vaping" experience is so much better the more money you pay for a device that has the same chip (I.e. dna40) because you got on an exclusive list and waited months?
Dam...guess I've been doing wrong. Ignorance is bliss and saved me tons of money - thank God.
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So the "vaping" experience is so much better the more money you pay for a device that has the same chip (I.e. dna40) because you got on an exclusive list and waited months?
Dam...guess I've been doing wrong. Ignorance is bliss and saved me tons of money - thank God.

i think it is mostly psychological, putting money you worked hard to get, into something that costs a lot is similar in a way that you worked for that mod and appreciate it more, whether it be a vaporshark, or some handcrafted one-off piece. so yes, they are snobs :lol:. My vaporshark is high end to me and I love it.
 

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I think Mr Todd put it nicely when he said he had sold on his sx mini describing it as "soulless" "mass produced".

I think it all depends on what you want, like and whether you collect or not.

High end to me is more about materials used, who made it, and how they made it.

personally i got tired of the paint chipping on mods and having to put wraps on them.

By the way i apoligise if my opinion upsets anyone, its not my intentions at all.
 

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This argument seams a bit contrived to me. If a mod is satisfying to you and you enjoy using it then it is a good mod for you. If you find satisfaction in a $1000+ handcrafted device than it was money well spent. If the 'exclusivity' and difficulty of getting some mods turns you off, don't participate. I have an SX mini m class that I like a great deal and have used daily since I got it. I really just don't care if someone else finds it high-end or not. I also don't take any offense in someone demonstrating their pride in a device they hunted down and spent their hard earned money on.

On the other hand, looking for external affirmation concerning a mod so as to feel 'better' than others is just sad.


I don't really see a 'ultra' high end market. There are 3 levels of devices on the market imho.

1. Cheap and cheerful devices
2. Middle of the range devices (vaporshark, provari, sx mini)
3. High end. Pandora, Devers, Kitchen Mods, Melody box, Gepetto, Carlos Creations etc..

However there are a lot of modders that are trying to pass off their 'high end' devices that are very, very badly built with no QC whatsoever.
 

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Mine has held up pretty well so far. We'll see how it goes.

Speaking of snobbish things, I have some Leica cameras. The ultimate snob camera. They are dinged and scratched and chipped and look as if they have been thrown off a cliff. In photography circles those 'wear' marks are looked at as badges of honor that separate those who use their stuff in interesting places and those who never take them out of the house. Do you think I could get away with the same reasoning when my sx mini gets it's inevitable 'wear' marks? :)

Please don't take any offense in my comments above, I didn't intend any.

I actually think the sx mini is a great mod, its just a shame the paint comes off so easily.
 

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My collection is pretty varied, while i do not have a Gep I do have some fairly highend gear, boring cframes and some stabilized art stuff, high end epipes. I have some decent mid grade stuff today, tomorrow will be a highend stab box. But I disagree, I love the egrip in my collection and use it, along with ipv4 and mini v2 and isticks and etc. Even with with highend item there is still a place in my stash for the every person mod.

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My collection is pretty varied, while i do not have a Gep I do have some fairly highend gear, boring cframes and some stabilized art stuff, high end epipes. I have some decent mid grade stuff today, tomorrow will be a highend stab box. But I disagree, I love the egrip in my collection and use it, along with ipv4 and mini v2 and isticks and etc. Even with with highend item there is still a place in my stash for the every person mod.

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SunBox, droool

I'm on a GB list for the E8 at another forum, I've been wanting a SunBox before I even started squonking, lol

I'm crazy excited about it, they are just incredible and work so well. I'm in love with their design too, just love the look of them.

Do you run the flatter adapter for 22mm mods or have the UFO cup? (sorry, didn't look closely at pic)

I'll be using both 14/22 (18 too I guess, Nuppin), so I'm going for flatter adapter, was curious if you've ever had issues using it (if that's what you are running of course, lol). I figure nowadays most attys are so good the lack of a real catch cup isn't as big of a deal as it once was.

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To be fair, the paint issues with the first batch of the black SX Mini M-Class were warrantied by Yihi. All you had to do was contact the vendor you bought it from, send it back, and they'd send you a new one.

Sorry for posting the Snow Wolf review, didn't mean to open a can of worms over what's considered 'high end' or not, lol.

There's nothing wrong with spending money on something that brings you pleasure.
 
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