High juice consumption

[AndriaD]

Even on my derringer, I can set it up to go through a ridiculously small amount of juice. Shut the airflow to just a bit, switch to a single coil and turn the power down. Makes for a nice little mtl hit. If I run dual coils at .4 ohms, I can burn through a 10ml bottle in an afternoon. That being said... I've cut my juice consumption down to about 3ml a day. Tootle puffing definitely has its place.

I can't *get* the Derringer "really tight" at all; even with every last hole covered, there's still "mystery airflow" from somewhere, and it's too much for MtL. Reminds me of the Caterpillar... such an easy draw you feel like you're getting nothing, nothing, nothing... then OMG IT'S TOO MUCH!!! as I about die of a coughing fit.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

For my part I cannot conceive of why one would vape at .2 ohm. I'm sure there's a reason, but it's lost on me. Is it just about how much of a cloud you can blow? Isn't that a really hot vape? I build my Kraken and DID at .8 ohm and they deliver very good vapor and flavor.

The low ohms for TC mods is just because of the different properties of nickel and titanium, which is what makes TC possible -- you control the heat of the vape with the actual temp setting.

Andria

 

[Vaslovik]

The low ohms for TC mods is just because of the different properties of nickel and titanium, which is what makes TC possible -- you control the heat of the vape with the actual temp setting.

Andria

Okay, I guess I understand. TC is not something I've ventured into, or know much about, nor will I find out much about it. I'm happy with my good old mechs and gennies

 

[AndriaD]

Okay, I guess I understand. TC is not something I've ventured into, or know much about, nor will I find out much about it. I'm happy with my good old mechs and gennies

TC vaping is definitely different; I'm still feeling my way, with different builds for it -- I've been used to really wimpy builds for my tootle puffing, but apparently with TC I need to build more aggressively, and just control the amount of vapor with the temp selection.

Andria

 

[Waddle]

Okay, I guess I understand. TC is not something I've ventured into, or know much about, nor will I find out much about it. I'm happy with my good old mechs and gennies

Stick with what you like and works for you. A lot of old school folks still swear by their mechanical mods. I have to admit I've never tried a Genny, but I do like SS mesh in my Taifuns.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I can't *get* the Derringer "really tight" at all; even with every last hole covered, there's still "mystery airflow" from somewhere, and it's too much for MtL. Reminds me of the Caterpillar... such an easy draw you feel like you're getting nothing, nothing, nothing... then OMG IT'S TOO MUCH!!! as I about die of a coughing fit.

Andria

My caterpillar has adjustable airflow.

 

[yuseffuhler]

I can't *get* the Derringer "really tight" at all; even with every last hole covered, there's still "mystery airflow" from somewhere, and it's too much for MtL. Reminds me of the Caterpillar... such an easy draw you feel like you're getting nothing, nothing, nothing... then OMG IT'S TOO MUCH!!! as I about die of a coughing fit.

Andria

I can't mtl on the derringer unless I use a restrictive drip tip. I have a super small (roughly 2 mm air intake) diameter pipe drip tip that makes it nice. With the delrin wide bore tip, there's not enough resistance.

 

[crxess]

People, Not Tanks, use a lot of juice.

Simple Phenomena - The more we like what we are consuming(Vaping) and the more that is available(Delivery) The more consumption will take place.

It has more to do with Our desires than the mechanical function of the devices.

Op said .2, but my TC build is dual coil .071 - I learned to moderate.

 

[AndriaD]

I can't mtl on the derringer unless I use a restrictive drip tip. I have a super small (roughly 2 mm air intake) diameter pipe drip tip that makes it nice. With the delrin wide bore tip, there's not enough resistance.

That's a good thing to know, actually; I bought one of those flat "pipe" driptips with the tiny opening, but hadn't tried it yet. Someone else mentioned about putting tape over the holes that are blocked, to help seal it; since my Derringer is black, I'm thinking black electrical tape would do very well, and maybe stay put longer than other types of tape.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

People, Not Tanks, use a lot of juice.

Simple Phenomena - The more we like what we are consuming(Vaping) and the more that is available(Delivery) The more consumption will take place.

It has more to do with Our desires than the mechanical function of the devices.

Op said .2, but my TC build is dual coil .071 - I learned to moderate.

That's true, but the type of atty has a great deal to do with it -- cartos don't use much, neither does my Achilles; the airflow is very tight, and the TH is so outstanding it's necessary to reduce the wattage to be able to stand it (also reduce nic level), so even with very frequent vaping, it conserves juice extremely well -- low airflow, lowered wattage; this is an atty design that could survive even a drastic vapocalypse.

Andria

 

[petrotech]

For my part I cannot conceive of why one would vape at .2 ohm. I'm sure there's a reason, but it's lost on me. Is it just about how much of a cloud you can blow? Isn't that a really hot vape? I build my Kraken and DID at .8 ohm and they deliver very good vapor and flavor.

I vape at .3 sometimes...for me it's instant gratification. I never had to puff on a cigarette for 5 seconds, and sometimes I don't want to vape that way either.

you'd be suprise at how cool a vape it can be with the correct atty and airflow settings.

if we all vaped the same way, we wouldn't have anything to fight about.

 

[mogium]

lower ohms + higher power = more juice consumed.

 

[Vaslovik]

I vape at .3 sometimes...for me it's instant gratification. I never had to puff on a cigarette for 5 seconds, and sometimes I don't want to vape that way either.

you'd be suprise at how cool a vape it can be with the correct atty and airflow settings.

if we all vaped the same way, we wouldn't have anything to fight about.

LOL!

Yeah, you got that right. I try to remember that much of vaping is a matter of personal preference about which there is no point in arguing. I never have to puff on my vapes for that long either, the whole reason I went to mechs and gennies was that it happened right now when I hit the button. I'm still very happy with them, and vaping at just .8 ohm.

 

[coolerat]

LOL!

Yeah, you got that right. I try to remember that much of vaping is a matter of personal preference about which there is no point in arguing. I never have to puff on my vapes for that long either, the whole reason I went to mechs and gennies was that it happened right now when I hit the button. I'm still very happy with them, and vaping at just .8 ohm.

Thats some old school Amish vaping there.

Others like the latest whiz bang jet powered thingie.

I like my mod like I like my truck. Beat up and reliable. Power to spare, I like a V8 and a 100w. I don't vape over 50w and I don't speed but just knowing I could makes me feel warm and fuzzy. I don't need all the latest and greatest but can admit touch 4 wheel drive and a battery level indicator make my life easier.

Juice?? I make it in a jelly jar and replace as needed. At about an hours pay a year I don't give it much thought.

 

[yuseffuhler]

That's a good thing to know, actually; I bought one of those flat "pipe" driptips with the tiny opening, but hadn't tried it yet. Someone else mentioned about putting tape over the holes that are blocked, to help seal it; since my Derringer is black, I'm thinking black electrical tape would do very well, and maybe stay put longer than other types of tape.

Andria

Helpful tip: the wide bore drip tip will fit a 510 drip tip. It's useful as a heat sink when you don't want to burn your lips lol. Black electrical tape might work, but I would try that drip tip first. With mine, it has about the same draw as a nautilus mini on the next to largest airflow setting.

 

[Ryedan]

So I recently got the eVic vt and have and the ego one mega tank to get started on temp control vaping. I thought i read that temp control helps slow down juice consumption some. But it seems like the 4 ml tank goes by super fast when using the .2 ohm nickel coil. Is this usual?

With the same atty there is no inherent difference in juice use per puff between TC and non-TC systems. It's all about the power you're applying to the atty. You can control the power with the temp setting, or with the power setting and just use the temp setting to protect you from burnt hits. It just depends on how you set up your mod. Either way, to get the same vape you'll be running at very similar power.

 

[AndriaD]

Helpful tip: the wide bore drip tip will fit a 510 drip tip. It's useful as a heat sink when you don't want to burn your lips lol. Black electrical tape might work, but I would try that drip tip first. With mine, it has about the same draw as a nautilus mini on the next to largest airflow setting.

I don't have a wide-bore driptip; mine didnt' come with a driptip at all. Generally I prefer knucklehead driptips for RDAs, so I don't get hot spats in the mouth, but the bore is too wide in those for the Derringer (they work great with Achilles though!).

Andria

 

[yuseffuhler]

I don't have a wide-bore driptip; mine didnt' come with a driptip at all. Generally I prefer knucklehead driptips for RDAs, so I don't get hot spats in the mouth, but the bore is too wide in those for the Derringer (they work great with Achilles though!).

Andria

Well, I'll let you know that mine is wonderful for either mtl (used with a pipe tip stuck in the wide bore) or just the wide bore for lung hits. Sweet vapes the drip tip for 4 bucks in white, black and stainless if you're feeling like spending some money lol.
Derringer Drip Tip

 

[AndriaD]

Well, I'll let you know that mine is wonderful for either mtl (used with a pipe tip stuck in the wide bore) or just the wide bore for lung hits. Sweet vapes the drip tip for 4 bucks in white, black and stainless if you're feeling like spending some money lol.
Derringer Drip Tip

And you can fit a regular 510 driptip down inside those wide bore driptips? Hmm, that would give it more space between my mouth and the coil, a very good thing. They show a pic of a gold or brass version, but they don't offer it, dagnabbit. That would look spiffy between the black derringer and black flat driptip. (ETA: but it would give me an excuse to buy yet another mod, this one in black and brass or gold... but so far I haven't seen one like that that I really like)

Andria

 

[yuseffuhler]

And you can fit a regular 510 driptip down inside those wide bore driptips? Hmm, that would give it more space between my mouth and the coil, a very good thing. They show a pic of a gold or brass version, but they don't offer it, dagnabbit. That would look spiffy between the black derringer and black flat driptip. (ETA: but it would give me an excuse to buy yet another mod, this one in black and brass or gold... but so far I haven't seen one like that that I really like)

Andria

It offers more space between and it does keep heat down. I was sad they didn't have the shiny tips too. I'm seriously considering ordering the derringer clone off fasttech just for all the top caps you can get with it., then a brass and black mechanical to make it all match and be purty. I normally don't order from fasttech, but it's almost impossible to find what I want anywhere else.
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