High VG Custard Pie?

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Submarine123

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Hey guys, I'm desperately looking for a recipe that could help me create a Custard Pie vape.

When it comes to the Custard flavor, I'm not too picky, I just want a fluffy Custard flavor that is neither too flat and sour in an eggy sense (eggy notes are fine as long as the sweetness is there), but I also don't want such as sweet note to the recipe that it almosts tastes like chlorine water. (Some very sweet flavors have this effect on me). I also do want a Pie Crust aspect that is very non-sweet in flavor, very little sugar at all except anything that might have to bring body. I am looking for a Crust alike to Key Lime Pie Crust, a very nutmeg, dark (not light or crispy) graham cracker, almost clove-ish aspect.

As someone who can't afford all sorts of random ingredients, I really wish someone could truly point me in the right track. This flavor would be an ADV for me if done right, and virtually no e-liquids I can find out there (vendor pre-made) are keeping me to vaping; I really wish someone would truly help me as I'm smoking heavy again and need this recipe.

I've tried some experiments with Capella's Vanilla Custard and Gingerbread, but the Gingerbread is tremendously paccked with sugar and candy aspects to the point it overrides any real bready, crust, or spice flavor, and their Custard is extremely flat, bodyless, has almost no flavor, and almost tastes expired. Sucralose helps turn it into a mere, "sweet" fluffy cloud taste, but I'm looking for way more body than that in terms of there being "some" amount of sweet eggy notes, some vanillin notes, maybe the tiniest touch of the rising caramel extracts from the baked pie. All that.

A good Egg Custard Pie is sorta like a New York Cheesecake, I think, with sort of a baked caramelized top layer and the crust I an talking about. But I'm looking for less Cheesecake and more fluffy, slightly eggy, slightly vanillin, slightly white fluffy sugary, and that bold nutmeg crust, all with like a %25 background of sweet fluff that really helps translate flavors into dripping mode (maybe a Sweet Cream? I have no clue.)

I just don't know where in the world to start. Now if you guys know of any composite Cheeseecake flavorings that do a greate job of creating a "Cheesecake" flavor, with the sttong crust, cheesecake, and subtle flavors all from one composite flavor bottle where all I have to do is drip some drops, that'd be an absolute blessing to hold me over as I get experience. Heck, even any "DIY for Dumbies" 80% High VG recipies you guys can give me at all (I'm talking telling me how many drops to put in a 5ml, 15ml or 30ml or such, you know! No percentages!), I don't care if it's even Orange Cream or Blueberry Lemonade or anything, I just need something extremely simple and easy to obtain where I can make cheaper than normal dripping juice. I don't have the money to order from 15 different places (the shipping charges add up!)

If you guys have any help, please, I have to quit smoking and yet no flavors out there are doing this for me... I know for me, that a strong nutmeg-like clove-like truly crunchy non-sweet (but not lifeless or sour) crust note is what replaces "tobacco" in my mind, but that Custard flavors and a fluffy, generally somewhat bodied and sweet aspect there is what totally completes the picture of cloud blowing in my mind. No other flavors, not even nicotine, truly wins over my psychological aspect. At one time, Charlie Noble's Custard was this ADV, and recent batches have been really, extremely "off" with no crust note or eggy notes, just almost a chlorine, sweetener, whipped cream taste. I have no clue what to do!

My theory is that I need a pie crust composite that is so starkly non-sweet (but full bodied and real tasting, not lifeless or sour), that any amount of sweetness found in or needed for the custard elements just would not "candy up" the crust very much at all. Ingredients that in a way would stay seperate; some staying realistic, crunchy, and authentic, some sweeter and fluffier. I taste E-Liquids that accomplish this all the time, but I don't know the right combinations.

For better or worse, I do get the theory that for first time DIY, that a goal of recreating a flavor that can equally be found and replicated in alcoholic cocktails is most realistic (like creating the Birthday Cake type of flavor you find in Birthday Cake vodka) but for me, I simply tried that with Capella and no combinations really worked. In theory, this should really be no different than creating gourmet cocktails, which I'm amazing at (not to brag!) but something ain't right here and the flavors I bought didn't come through.

I even tried them in creamed coffee and blegh, bad flavors. They were okay in "pre-sweetened cream" coffee but awful in "non-sweetened cream" coffee even with "Super Sweet" added to replace the sugar in the non-sweetened cream. It's as though these flavors require actual sugar (not Stevia) and actual cream to taste right. So I'm stuck and already wasted a lot of money. Capellas flavors do not seem to work without being used in authentic, actual sweet cream; I don't think I could even use these in a vodka. So I don't know what to do. I feel ripped off and low on cash. Please help!!!
 
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If I were you, smoking again and all, buy a premium flavour for yourself to get you off the cigs... And then with the overflow of money lol get into like a vanilla custard mix, which is only, mostly a few ingredients, I have a thread on my profile that has a 2 ingredient vanilla custard. I'm at the restaurant right now but if you want, I have the recipe in my notes. PM me for details
 

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Really no different than a regular mix. I mix max vg. I only adjust pg for the occasional vaper using clearo's. I don't adjust my flavor percentages. It just takes a while for custards to steep. Max vg or otherwise.

Fa custard and fa cookie is what I would play around with. Perhaps a little cap vc as well. And a drop of inawera biscuit per 10mls.

Fa custard 3%
Fa cookie .5%
Cap vc 3%
1 drop per 10mls inawera biscuit
tfa cheesecake graham crust 1%
Maybe swirl a toothpick with a little AP
 

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So I think that creating a Custard Pie on first attempt is a little out of my ballpark... from simply trying Capella's Custard, there seems to be a lot of elements that really have to go into one.

Alternatively, I'm thinking of a simple Strawberry Milk flavor. It cannot be that hard. And I do not want to fool with Capella again because the shipping prices and time are ridiculous.

I'm thinking about TFA but I'm still not sure what ingredients would truly create a creamy Strawberries and Cream with no plasticy Strawberry taste - I'd want a very milky blend.

Does anyone have any simple old Strawberry Cream recipes (hopefully TFA) that would do really well? Thank you!

Oh, and does anyone have any tips at all for how I could salvage this Capella Custard, Whipped Cream, and Super Sweet? Any ideas on how I could get the Custard to shine using these three?
 
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Oh, and does anyone have any tips at all for how I could salvage this Capella Custard, Whipped Cream, and Super Sweet? Any ideas on how I could get the Custard to shine using these three?
Capella's custard needs time.When fresh,just as you found,it tastes flat,give the mixed juice a few weeks of aging,and it will start to develop quite a bit of flavor.
 
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