High VG Vaping
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I use 70/30 PG/VG myself, but I loaded a Vivi Nova with 100% VG that I ordered back when I didn't know what it meant, and it takes it pretty well, although I don't chain vape and it takes longer to fill the tank in the morning (man, is that stuff thick).
I'm not sure if it matters, but I'm using 3.2 ohms at 4 volts.
A Vivi Nova might be a little odd looking depending on what you're using it on. You might want to google it. If you're using a KGO or EGO, I think you might have a gap.
I'm not sure if it matters, but I'm using 3.2 ohms at 4 volts.
A Vivi Nova might be a little odd looking depending on what you're using it on. You might want to google it. If you're using a KGO or EGO, I think you might have a gap.
PS. Sorry if this reply seems overly complicated. You say you're somewhat new, and I don't want to steer you wrong. If you're using a KGO or an EGO, a 2.4 ohm v3 vision clearomizer is probably equivalent. I'll just hope that someone with more VG experience will step in here. 
Higher PG based Nic liquids usually 'wick' better with Tanks: I'd recommend 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG.... you'll have higher vapor production with the 70/30 ratio. (Depending on your e liquid supplier.... try to choose ones with 'consistent' Juices)
And who would a few of those be? I know Virgin Vapers 100% VG caramel vapes well in my tank. She add distiller water. My caramel has a decent throat hit too. I haven't tried her other flavors because I like 36 mg nic usually and they top at 24 like most.Higher PG based Nic liquids usually 'wick' better with Tanks: I'd recommend 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG.... you'll have higher vapor production with the 70/30 ratio. (Depending on your e liquid supplier.... try to choose ones with 'consistent' Juices)
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I use 95% VG in my cartos. I don't think it's possible to vape 100% VG in cartos, Glycerin USP (VG) is too viscous for that. My DIY mix is listed in the signature below.
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I use a Triple V Polypro carto tank from Welcome to Valley View Vapes - Your Home for Quality Inexpensive Tanks and Vaping Supplies with my DIY juices which are 20PG/80VG. They work well and draw well and use Boge 510D XL cartos. The cartos are pretested so you know you aren't buying a DOA. I get clouds of vapor with each draw and that is what I'm seeking in a tank.
I know a lot of people like to say that they use 100% VG juice, but not even Glycerin USP is 100% VG. Glycerin USP is 99.5% glycerin. The .5% is water.
You will find that Glycerin USP at 99.5% VG is too thick to vape on a device that uses filler material or a wick. That's why it must be thinned down by a few percent with something else.
When you consider the percentage values of a juice include any thinner and the flavorings. Thinners can be water, PG or alcohol. Flavorings can be VG, PG or alcohol based. Nicotine is such a small amount it's negligible, but the base is either VG, PG or a mix and must be included in the formula.
You will find that Glycerin USP at 99.5% VG is too thick to vape on a device that uses filler material or a wick. That's why it must be thinned down by a few percent with something else.
When you consider the percentage values of a juice include any thinner and the flavorings. Thinners can be water, PG or alcohol. Flavorings can be VG, PG or alcohol based. Nicotine is such a small amount it's negligible, but the base is either VG, PG or a mix and must be included in the formula.
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I usually use a pyrex tank and carto but the Kanger t3 I bought for outdoors manual labor etc... Is sturdy stuff and never leaked on me. It's a stiff draw compared to tanks and cartos ( so Imdraw slow and long on it) and I like to vape too much in a row...like hot boxing? It will not support that kind of vaping very well.
Higher PG based Nic liquids usually 'wick' better with Tanks: I'd recommend 80/20 or 70/30 PG/VG.... you'll have higher vapor production with the 70/30 ratio. (Depending on your e liquid supplier.... try to choose ones with 'consistent' Juices)
I use EC Blends, right now I am trying 40/60 PG/VG
It is pretty much a universal rule that, the thicker the juice, the more problem you will have with wicking and the higher the VG, the thicker the juice. For the reasons yzer pointed out, even "100%" VG juice is rarely over 95% and is often diluted even more using water or alcohol in order to make it thinner / wick better.
More free-flowing cartomizers like the 801 Fusions (ikenvape carries these) will often work better for thick juices. Also, more and/or larger holes in the carto when used with a tank will improve thick-juice performance.
Clearomizers like the Stardust and ViVi Nova have, in my experience, real problems with thick juices; requiring constant tipping and not dealing well with chain vaping. However, a little bit of distilled water or pure grain alcohol can go a long way to thin out a juice.
More free-flowing cartomizers like the 801 Fusions (ikenvape carries these) will often work better for thick juices. Also, more and/or larger holes in the carto when used with a tank will improve thick-juice performance.
Clearomizers like the Stardust and ViVi Nova have, in my experience, real problems with thick juices; requiring constant tipping and not dealing well with chain vaping. However, a little bit of distilled water or pure grain alcohol can go a long way to thin out a juice.
I have a pg allergy so buy 100% VG at no nic or 6mg. I then add a few drops of PG with nic in it to thin it and vape in Vivi Nova 1.8 on standard Ego or 2.4 at 4.2.VV. I have no problems with the Vivi Nova if I allow the juice to wick properly between vapes but I sometimes need to add a couple of drops of vodka if the tank is low as it gets thick at the bottom. I find it has to be a thinner juice to vape with cartos using filler material and it takes 10 minutes to really soak in on the first fill. I have used the kanger and I fill the same way as the nova by diluting a tad. There a quite a few vendors out there doing 100% Vg and also vendors that are happy to custom make although you need to bear in mind if they are selling a juice at 50/50 for instance they are generally recommending it tastes better at that %.
Welcome to ECF and enjoy your journey
Welcome to ECF and enjoy your journey
Hi Yzer
I think the thick vg juices depends on the vendor. As you are making your own, this comment probably doesn't actually apply to you.
But I have ordered vg juice from some vendors that was sooooo thick I couldn't get it out of the dropper! LOL
But Johnson Creek Red Oak 100% vg has always been thinner & has consistently worked very well in my cartomizers.
Maybe someday I'll start DIY like you.
Actually no e-liquid is even remotely close to 99% VG since most flavoring is carried in water, ethyl alcohol or PG. Once you add flavoring your e-liquid is somewhere between 80 - 90% VG by volume.
Hi again Grizz,
Seems I'm not the only one that's having this kind of problem. When you say mix a bit of distilled water with the VG how much water do you mean? If I was to fill a 1.6 ml to 1.4 with juice and the other .2 with water, is that too much? I really like these juices but I do think they're seeming too thick for my clearo set up.
Seems I'm not the only one that's having this kind of problem. When you say mix a bit of distilled water with the VG how much water do you mean? If I was to fill a 1.6 ml to 1.4 with juice and the other .2 with water, is that too much? I really like these juices but I do think they're seeming too thick for my clearo set up.
100% VG will provide thick vapour. PG just doesn't. VG is smooth on the throat. PG is not. VG works fine in a clearomizer.
I've always used 100% VG and never had a problem with the thickness. In fact the only reason people say its thick is because they always compare it to PG. If you don't compare it to PG you won't even notice how thick it is. Fact is it aint thick.
A PG throat hit is different from VG. To me a VG hit is more of a "hit" than PG in a way that's difficult to describe. It's just that PG is a bit like smokin theatrical fog(you know the stuff, makes your throat sore) and VG is more pleasurable. VG actually gives you a instant profound hit, where in contrast PG which has a coarser but not quite as pleasant hit(which aint actually a hit at all really).
I highly recommend VG all the way.
Oh and pg has some carcinogens that are found in tabacco and Vg has none. Never has the phrase "one mans meat is another mans "poison" been more relevant.
Vg works fine in clearomizers, vivi nova's etc. Just make sure you get genuine hardware. I've had bad hardware and they just can't cope with VG. Such as short wick-omizers. Whoever the hammerhead that thought of that was is keeping a low profile.
I've always used 100% VG and never had a problem with the thickness. In fact the only reason people say its thick is because they always compare it to PG. If you don't compare it to PG you won't even notice how thick it is. Fact is it aint thick.
A PG throat hit is different from VG. To me a VG hit is more of a "hit" than PG in a way that's difficult to describe. It's just that PG is a bit like smokin theatrical fog(you know the stuff, makes your throat sore) and VG is more pleasurable. VG actually gives you a instant profound hit, where in contrast PG which has a coarser but not quite as pleasant hit(which aint actually a hit at all really).
I highly recommend VG all the way.
Oh and pg has some carcinogens that are found in tabacco and Vg has none. Never has the phrase "one mans meat is another mans "poison" been more relevant.
Vg works fine in clearomizers, vivi nova's etc. Just make sure you get genuine hardware. I've had bad hardware and they just can't cope with VG. Such as short wick-omizers. Whoever the hammerhead that thought of that was is keeping a low profile.
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To help put 95% VG and 5% H2O into perspective imagine six ml of Glycerin USP (VG) that contains the measured nicotine in mg/ml. This mixture already contains .5% water. This is 99.5/.5 VG/H2O that includes the nicotine in the mix. It would be too viscous to work well with filler material or wicks.
To change this mix from 99.5/.5 VG/H2O to 95/5 VG/H2O I add distilled water at the following ratio: seven drops distilled water to 6 ml of 99.5/.5 VG/H2O nicotine mix. Now I have a 95/5 VG/H2O nicotine liquid. This contains 5% less nicotine by volume than the liquid I started with.
At this point, adding any flavoring that does not have a Glycerin USP base will dilute the VG percentage further. It will also dilute the nicotine and H2O percentage.
If I added the same amount of non-VG based flavoring to the mix instead of distilled H2O I would still have 95% VG but the 5% would be something else.
To change this mix from 99.5/.5 VG/H2O to 95/5 VG/H2O I add distilled water at the following ratio: seven drops distilled water to 6 ml of 99.5/.5 VG/H2O nicotine mix. Now I have a 95/5 VG/H2O nicotine liquid. This contains 5% less nicotine by volume than the liquid I started with.
At this point, adding any flavoring that does not have a Glycerin USP base will dilute the VG percentage further. It will also dilute the nicotine and H2O percentage.
If I added the same amount of non-VG based flavoring to the mix instead of distilled H2O I would still have 95% VG but the 5% would be something else.
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