It really does look like steel rope, friggin nutter!
highest wattage box mod
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It really does look like steel rope, friggin nutter!
You have not answered any of those questions either...you do this same thing on every high wattage or supposed CC thread. Does it not get boring?
Yeah... And I am also not Making any Recommendations that a person Vape at 200W either.
The why enter and clutter up the thread with no intentions of helping?
There are quite a few devices like the IPV3, Cloupor, or Segelei's that will run over 100 watts. But if you build the right set up, with the right amount of coil surface area, proper wicking and juice saturation; you can achieve a satisfying vape with much less. Before going out and getting the newest kilowatt mod, try to figure out what don't you like about your 30 watt vape, and try to solve it with your build first. You may be surprised how much a DNA 30 device or 50 watt box mod can do.
To make people think that Maybe Vaping at 200 Watts is Not something Everyone should do.
What are you Contributing to This Thread?
I came to mention the T8 but then he said he wanted more than that. I dont know of any higher. I then got distracted by you guys plastering the thread with pictures and mishaps that have nothing to do with what the OP was asking about
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they have the 60 amp GE raptor chips. I think those go up to 300w, but they are all custom. You'd have to go lipo pack as that's the only way you could approach the wattage limit
I've seen that picture before, and that picture is the result of NO VENTING in a mechanical mod, NOT vaping at over 200 watts. You did EXACTLY what I thought the others would do, you're trying to come off like you're helping the "greater good" but in reality you're still only muddying the waters. Any mod without venting is exceedingly dangerous, the vapeblast explosion which is where your picture comes from was a 26650 device that was in the audience NOT in the cloud competitions, nobody even knows what resistance the device was set to because as you pointed out the top cap is gone. All it would take is a simple little tear in the outside battery wrapper to cause an autofire condition and lead to venting and then an explosion in that mod. You have literally zero proof that someone was pushing high wattage on that mod, only hearsay.It CAN'T be done safely, and we do understand it.
You will only get one shot at doing it wrong!
Note that there is no top cap or atomizer in the pic (they're embedded in the ceiling)
You do know, you could have VERY easily taken the time you had to post what you did post in here and instead posted ALL if the information you just questioned. However, you seem to think this is all a joke and I'll let you do whatever you want because you're simply making yourself look bad.
I guess civilized helpful conversation was too much to ask for.
OK.
You want me to Post Something like you did. Fine. Here you go.
http://store.tlcvapes.com/mechanical-mods/bay-city-vapors/26650-bfm-bay-city-vapors-mechanical-mod/
Stacked 22650 Mech Mod. The OP should be Able to get the get to 235 Watts by using a .3 Ohm Coil.
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Froth has a valid point here. The kind of heckling and off topic posting going on in this thread is not what ECF is about, at least from what I'm used to here. Most times this kind of behavior gets posts removed or threads shut down.
The OP asked:
"So I know the sigeili 100w and the cloupor 150w that's upgradable to 200w but is there any device that kick out more than that? My DNA 30 is amazing but it's just not enough and I need thicker vapor to help me stay away from them stinkies my mech mods aren't even putting out enough for what I want"
He's looking for regulated mods that put out as much power as he can get right now. He seems to not want to push his mech mods into the danger zone. What is wrong with that? If anyone understands and wants to post safety information for this scenario, that would be great. Some of the stuff that was posted about it has nothing to do with the subject, some was completely incorrect or irrelevant and some was plain rude.
Why do people feel this is acceptable when talking about high power vaping, but not acceptable in other situations?
Fair enough, Ryedan. Let me respond.
I just reread the thread. Yes, the OP did ask just that, but when asked why he would want to go above 100-200 watts, he said the following:
So that made me think that maybe he wasn't all that serious--that he was just yanking our collective chain. But he also got some very good answers:
And then the link to a 400-watt (competition) device was introduced and well, things went south fast... I'm sorry I made a snarky remark about the Darwin Awards. My competitive smoking pictures were not necessary, I agree. I just thought they were funny.
As you know, I almost never post in high-wattage (sub-ohm) threads. There are plenty of knowledgeable vapers who enjoy high wattages and I often find their serious conversations on the subject enlightening. But I've never seen any of them recommending or even seriously contemplating anything above 100W. usually much less than that. Both Phil Busardo and Brandon from Evolv recently confessed that they vape at 17 watts or so. Of course, more wattage is needed with different builds (dual and quad coils configured in parallel, for instance). But Brandon mentioned the possibility of building dual coils in series.
As you know, our e-liquids reach their boiling points at around 332-340 deg Fahrenheit--and that won't change with increased wattage, no matter what we do. So what's the point? Throwing 100, 200 or 400 watts at a tiny coil will not give you a different result--but will decrease battery life and waste a ton of juice--even if it can be done safely. I find the race for ridiculously high wattage AVPs potentially dangerous, not only to people who pursue it but also to entire vaping community--especially now, when the future of vaping as we know it is being decided.
Good question. Probably because of those idiotic YouTube videos where high wattage vaping is being attempted by those who really shouldn't be attempting it. Maybe because we've seen too many threads in the new members forum started by new vapers trying to imitate those videos and building their sub-ohm coil without a multimeter, using wrong batteries etc... Poor Baditude tried to warn and educate every single one of them, heroically, time and time again, but without much success. So did you, Ryedan, if memory serves.
And many other ECF vets.
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Please see my answer to Ryedan above.
Many things can be done safely, but it doesn't mean that they should. You obviously understand electricity and batteries much better than I do--I don't question that. But there's more to vaping than just wattage and possible dangers associated with it. Another big unknown, at this time, is what happens to our e-liquids, our wires (like kanthal, nickel, nichrome) and different wicking materials (silica, ceramic mesh, cotton, hemp, rayon etc.) when they are being repeatedly heated to very high temperatures.
E-cigarette research: temperature of evaporation
Before we know for sure--before the results of Dr. Farsalinos's studies are published, nobody can claim that vaping at 400 or 100 or even 20 watts CAN BE DONE SAFELY. It's too early for that.
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True. But any device can fail/malfunction. I've seen pictures of cell phone and computer battery failures--just Google it if you don't believe me--I don't want to post any more scary pictures here. Come to think of it, even Boeing had problems with lithium batteries.
Batteries store energy. Sometimes that stored energy finds its way out when it shouldn't--for whatever reason; user error, malfunction, doesn't matter. The more energy a battery stores, the greater the danger.
We vapers put powerful batteries (which were not designed for vaping, BTW) in a metal box and then put that metal box in our mouths. You'd think a little caution might be advisable.
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Back to the OP's question, there's the Vicious Ant Variant rated to 250 watts, but your wallet's gonna be a lot thinner...
http://www.vaperoo.com/product/variant-titanium-by-vicious-ant-pre-order/
http://www.vaperoo.com/product/variant-titanium-by-vicious-ant-pre-order/
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Thank you for the response Katya and well said
I didn't want to go through the posts and point out who said what because I didn't want things to become personal. I also don't generally think in terms of fault, I prefer to work on learning from something and how to avoid the problem in the future. I know, I'm weird
We all care about vaping and about helping people. I think that's one reason why high power vaping discussions can go downhill so fast. None of us wants anyone to get hurt and we don't want to give the ANTZ any more ammunition to use against vaping. It's easy to get carried away though. We hear 100 or 200 watts and if someone has never vaped at 50 or 75 watts it's easy to think that can only turn out badly and then wonder why anyone would even think about going there in the first place. A couple of years ago 20 watts (or less) was thought to be ridiculously high too and now the folks at Provape think 20 watts is safe enough for them.
There is no doubt in my mind that more power changes the vape. It means there is more heat pumped into the atty per second than at less power. Yes you can do a lot with less power if you know how, but once you reach the limit that can do, more power is all that's left if you know how to use it. It changes the flavors, vapor production is faster, basically the whole vape experience changes. That may mean higher coil temperatures, but IMO from my experience that's not nearly a sure outcome. I suspect there is a ceiling above which you just can't keep a coil wet enough for the power, but if there is I don't know where it is. Clearos at 7 watts can and do burn juice too. Hopefully Dr. Farsalino's research will clarify at least some of this for us all.
I think it's important to stay civil, keep things helpful and factual. None of us are going to make high power vaping go away, but we all have the power to make people go away and get their information from folks who may not have our passion for safety.
Vape on my friend
Thank you for the response Katya and well said
Vape on my friend
You (and other vapers with your knowledge and experience) can go all the way up to kilowatts and I won't be concerned. Well, maybe just a little concerned.
I've learned a lot from you guys and I'm still learning--every day. But I also see threads like this one in New Members forum and that makes me very, very nervous. Again--I'm posting this link not to make fun of anyone--but as a warning. I can only hope the OP has learned something from our responses and I hope he's OK.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/615431-passthrough-battery-mods.html
Well I bought an ipv2 for my mutation X and it's sitting at 50w with a .3ohm build and woah man its so very yummy the reason I like high wattage is because I like big macro coils with 24g gplat but it takes a lot of power to get them going I built a dual 12 wrap on a 1/8 drill bit for my buddy but he doesn't have anything powerful enough to really heat it up so big fat coils at 200w wouldn't necessarily be high amperage just high wattage
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