I go by how my body has responded, no more horrible cough, shortness of breath, and no more high blood pressure. So how could this be bad for me. Its at least way better than smoking!
Hmmmm .. Maybe not so safe?
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Concerns about vaping, sure I have them! Mine are more in this direction though:
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Concerns about vaping, sure I have them! Mine are more in this direction though:
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Story of my life lol thats why I carry my fully charged mvp in my bag just in case
You need to read a lot more on the subject.
Both PG and VG are vegetable oil in origin. They are highly refined products of vegetable oil. The refining process also removes the toxins that are produced from overheated cooking oils, especially sulfur, ammonia, and chlorine. While PG and VG are vegetable oil derivatives, they do not have the same characteristics of vegetable oil.
Same with the flavors. They do not use cooking oil. The oils they contain are often natural extracts of the plants. For instance, pure, natural peppermint extract is an oil.
Think of it this way...
You wouldn't dare eat or drink crude oil. You know it's filled with nasty toxins.
But Vaseline, a petroleum jelly, is non-toxic.
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I'm not concerned about PG and VG.
I have some essential oils which vaped great but not sure if good for the lungs.
Concerns about vaping, sure I have them! Mine are more in this direction though:
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Best response so far. That's my biggest vaping fear.
With every thing you breath in you just never know .
This is what I know I breath better now ,I feel better it's ben almost a year for me .
I DIY mix so I know what's in the juice it's the best I can do for now .
This is what I know I breath better now ,I feel better it's ben almost a year for me .
I DIY mix so I know what's in the juice it's the best I can do for now .
I'm always astonished to see the response this kind of questioning provokes.
It's as if every vaper was attacked personally. The reactions are dismissive and very defensive as a rule.
Is it so unreasonable to question the safety of vaping?
The usual responses are:
1-no matter what it's much better than cigarette.
2- PG is used in asthma medication, to create smoke at shows etc.
Personally I find those arguments very questionable. First how do we know that it's much better than cigarettes? How many of us have felt the bad effects of smoking after 1 or 2 years? It usually takes much longer to become noticeable. Second how can the amounts of PG contained medication or false smoke be compared to those we are inhaling while vaping? Personally i often vape close to 10ml/day. Don't think any asthmatic inhales anywhere close to that.
Why so defensive? I vape as said quite a bit and hope it's much better than smoking but to date nobody to my knowledge has demonstrated what happens to those large quantities of PG that I inhale.
It's as if every vaper was attacked personally. The reactions are dismissive and very defensive as a rule.
Is it so unreasonable to question the safety of vaping?
The usual responses are:
1-no matter what it's much better than cigarette.
2- PG is used in asthma medication, to create smoke at shows etc.
Personally I find those arguments very questionable. First how do we know that it's much better than cigarettes? How many of us have felt the bad effects of smoking after 1 or 2 years? It usually takes much longer to become noticeable. Second how can the amounts of PG contained medication or false smoke be compared to those we are inhaling while vaping? Personally i often vape close to 10ml/day. Don't think any asthmatic inhales anywhere close to that.
Why so defensive? I vape as said quite a bit and hope it's much better than smoking but to date nobody to my knowledge has demonstrated what happens to those large quantities of PG that I inhale.
Well... Do you breathe the air when baking a cake or a pie? Do you sniff when you cook a peach cobbler? I've been breathing food smells my whole life and yet to have a problem. People use asthma inhalers which are FDA approved for inhaling so its safe. I smoked a pack and a half of marlboros for over 20 years. My lungs were full of tar and toxins for all those years. I doubt some food flavoring that I already breathe or pg/vg is going to hurt me!
People need to stop reading all these biased articles and start researching for themselves. Your health is more in danger by walking by a car exhaust running or filling your car with gasoline. There's far more dangers than vaping. Put worry where it's needed...like sign some petitions to stop the biased garbage laws from passing.
People need to stop reading all these biased articles and start researching for themselves. Your health is more in danger by walking by a car exhaust running or filling your car with gasoline. There's far more dangers than vaping. Put worry where it's needed...like sign some petitions to stop the biased garbage laws from passing.
I don't feel defensive. I don't care if I'm the planet's only vaper. I can breath easier and that's good enough for me. May not live another day, no one knows. I would prefer if most quit the stinkies because they don't help people breath easier.
For all I know vaping unflavored could prolong a non-smokers life. We just don't know.
Being asthmatic,and a ex smoker, and treating my baby's breathing problems with fancy medical vaporizers I can say I am an example of vaping being more helpful than harmful. My lungs are more sensitive than most peoples and after several years of vaping they are better than they have been for 20 years.
There's nothing astonishing or surprising about the responses. Maybe if these questions were posed by people who have been a member longer than 10 minutes, the results would be different. There is good reason to be defensive with these threads given the history of them on this forum. They almost always come from people with alterior motives. They plant fear mongering propaganda then never return.
They all have the same pattern. "I've been vaping for such and such time and now suddenly I'm worried". "Everyone here is living in denial" and so on. I think there's good reason to be skeptical of the OPs intentions. Everyone is tired of it and the attitude shows in the responses.
I firmly believe a valid educated discussion can be had here if we weren't all thinking "troll" or "antz" in the back of our minds.
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Honestly its ok to think about your health and all but if vaping really scares someone that bad then don't do it. Nobody is forcing anyone to Vape. And I laugh when people post comments like that because compared to smoking the difference is night and day! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out smoking is actual fire/combustion...which causes tar and a multitude of toxins. Then all the garbage Big Tobacco throws in just to keep you wanting more. Thousands of dangerous chemicals. All that compared to 4 ingredients of which none are toxins or cancer causing. It's laughable!
It's simple! Do research. Read, not the biased articles but research the actual ingredients in vaping!
It's like beating a dead horse with a stick!
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It's simple! Do research. Read, not the biased articles but research the actual ingredients in vaping!
It's like beating a dead horse with a stick!
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If your very first post is being doubtful about the safety of ecigs it does throw up a flag. First posters usually just say hello. They don't say I'm vaping but I think it may not be safe. If your unsure you can read many post or articles about their safety. If not convinced then why would you do it? Yeah to me it seems like a agenda. Sorry if I'm wrong op
BTW: It's not hard to research. There's only 4 ingredients. 
Try to research all the ingredients in cigarettes.
Try to research all the ingredients in cigarettes.
Does it really matter that it's the first or hundredth post or that the person has an agenda or not? All that doesn't change the validity of the question no matter who asks it does it?
And to say that if we have doubts about vaping we should just return to smoking is a strange answer. As already said I'm vaping in the hope that it is better than the alternative and glad to see that studies to date seem to confirm this but again who felt the novice nature of cigarettes after only one or two years.
And to say that if we have doubts about vaping we should just return to smoking is a strange answer. As already said I'm vaping in the hope that it is better than the alternative and glad to see that studies to date seem to confirm this but again who felt the novice nature of cigarettes after only one or two years.
BTW: It's not hard to research. There's only 4 ingredients.
Try to research all the ingredients in cigarettes.
Mine has only 3 ingredients about 95% of the time. Sometimes only one.
During cloud nights I vape 100% VG. Literally 100% VG. Not 100% VG plus a nic/PG base. That might make research a bit simpler.
I knew a high schooler who quit smoking because he got winded doing the sports. Only smoked for less than a year. Never took it up again, luckily.
Don't remember bumping my head but got a lump. I must be growing a set of antlers because of vaping! LOL
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