Hording and storage

[jamy]

Starting a thread relating to long term storage of battery's and ejuce and raw nick.
I have started to stock pyle for the future.
I have no idea how to store 18650 batteries for long term.. Also I was wondering if replacing o2 in nic containers with Co2 is the same as using argon.
I'm sure there will be someone that says no worries about the future of vaping but I'm getting a jump for the enviable price gouging that is surly going to come.

 

[Zutankhamun]

I'm afraid I don't know much about chemistry but I don't think that oxygen in your container (bonded with carbon) is not as good as just argon.

18650s will always be available and ppl on here have told me that 7-8 years is the max you can get with a .5 charged 18650 never used. I wouldn't worry bout it. Just buy more when needed.

 

[Robino1]

Also I was wondering if replacing o2 in nic containers with Co2 is the same as using argon.

You will find better answers in this section: DIY E-Liquid

Ask there and many people will help you.

 

[WillyZee]

the only thing that really needs to be stockpiled is nicotine ... vape gear will be obtained for pennies on the dollar when people have no eLiquid to use with them.

 

[thomas l]

Welcome, i wouldn't worry about storing any thing but nic, everything else has other uses

 

[crxess]

Batteries, no need
Nic in original containers or Glass(Cobalt/Amber) topped with Argon, in freezer.
E-liquids - Some Cold store well, some Die a fast death.

I DIY and keep only what is needed for a few months at a time Mixed. All other ingredients are stored un-mixed in cool/cold dark storage.

 

[Wow1420]

Starting a thread relating to long term storage of battery's and ejuce and raw nick.
I have started to stock pyle for the future.
I have no idea how to store 18650 batteries for long term.. Also I was wondering if replacing o2 in nic containers with Co2 is the same as using argon.
I'm sure there will be someone that says no worries about the future of vaping but I'm getting a jump for the enviable price gouging that is surly going to come.

I'm confused by your last paragraph. Do you really mean enviable, or was that a typo for inevitable?

 

[Two_Bears]

Starting a thread relating to long term storage of battery's and ejuce and raw nick.
I have started to stock pyle for the future.
I have no idea how to store 18650 batteries for long term.. Also I was wondering if replacing o2 in nic containers with Co2 is the same as using argon.
I'm sure there will be someone that says no worries about the future of vaping but I'm getting a jump for the enviable price gouging that is surly going to come.

NO need to stockpile batteries. Batteries are needed for flashlights and power packs for cirdless power tools.

People store flavors and nicotine in the freezer.

 

[Arriss]

Sort of reminds me back when people were preparing for year 2000 meltdown, building bunkers, storing up food, water, etc...... A few in my town, built homes underground, maybe one afternoon I'll run by take a pic, person can see chimney spout coming out of ground. No worries about the future of vaping, as regulations are made, we will all learn to adjust.

 

[sofarsogood]

Starting a thread relating to long term storage of battery's and ejuce and raw nick.
I have started to stock pyle for the future.
I have no idea how to store 18650 batteries for long term.. Also I was wondering if replacing o2 in nic containers with Co2 is the same as using argon.
I'm sure there will be someone that says no worries about the future of vaping but I'm getting a jump for the enviable price gouging that is surly going to come.

I believe anyone who plans to be a life long vaper will be mixing and rebuilding eventually. Why put it off?

But stockpiling may not protect us from government interference. Congress gave the FDA absolute authority to make any rules about vaping they choose. The "rules" are a meaningless hoax because they can be changed at any time for any reason. The FDA is consulting lawyers, not scientists. They could impose a compounding rule which means if you combine otherwise legal substances for vaping nicotine you will be breaking the law. They can say if you buy a battery for the purpose of vaping you are breaking the law. The new documentary is called A Billion Lives. It could be called A Billion Criminals.

When I'm putting together a team I'll take honest men over smart men at every turn. Unfortunately Washington is run by smart people.

 

[The Ocelot]

How did we not see this coming?​

 

[Rickajho]

NO need to stockpile batteries. Batteries are needed for flashlights and power packs for cirdless power tools.

People store flavors and nicotine in the freezer.

No ya don't! You don't even put flavorings or flavored liquids in the 'fridge, let alone the freezer. The volatile compounds in most flavorings we use do not respond well to refrigeration. Ever put a can of Coke in the freezer to chill it, forget about it, then try it when it thawed out? You go from "Coke" to "brown flavored sugar water." Many e-liquid flavorings respond the same way.

Unflavored nic in the freezer of course - as much as you can cram in there.

 

[bnrkwest]

I was debating on whether to put eliguid in the freezer, I may try some small bottles to see what effect it has, the ones I am not crazy about anyway LOL

 

[mattiem]

I was debating on whether to put eliguid in the freezer, I may try some small bottles to see what effect it has, the ones I am not crazy about anyway LOL

I think it was @Robino1 that told us that she stored an unopened bottle of her favorite e-liquid in her freezer for a year. She took it out and it was like opening a freshly made bottle. It could be that not all flavors act well at freezing temp though so if I were still buying pre-made I would run the same test on my favorites and see what happens.

 

[Robino1]

It was a bottle of NET Eliquid.

Ratio: 6mg nic 70\30 PG\VG

I have always stored my unopened bottles in the refrigerator. The liquid I use doesn't start the aging process until I take the cap off for the first time.

It was the same flavor, with exact same ratio, was what I did the experiment on.

The one year freezer stored bottle, responded the same as the fridge stored bottles.

Because I only vape one liquid, I stock two months or more at a time. Before, I would just keep them dark and cool but they always aged on me.

Chilling them seems to slow that process considerably.

Absolutely test on your own brands. Test a smaller bottle, or not, first to see how it behaves.

 

[crxess]

No ya don't! You don't even put flavorings or flavored liquids in the 'fridge, let alone the freezer. The volatile compounds in most flavorings we use do not respond well to refrigeration. Ever put a can of Coke in the freezer to chill it, forget about it, then try it when it thawed out? You go from "Coke" to "brown flavored sugar water." Many e-liquid flavorings respond the same way.

Unflavored nic in the freezer of course - as much as you can cram in there.

I have to Disagree on Refrigeration of un-mixed Flavorings. Some may settle out, and are reported to do so under normal storage practices at room temp.
I have been refrigeration and so far, 1 year has no effect on flavor or strength.
I DO ALWAYS bring flavoring to Room temp, shake well and wipe away any sweat before opening. Ultrasonic Cleaner for any flavor that drops crystals, does excellent at re-blending.
I do not plan long term storage - Years - as most flavors will continue to be readily available - Tobacco Flavors may be the exception.

Now, I posted this because I enjoy Vaping many different Flavors, I DIY and Purchasing 4oz. Bottles is tremendously Cheaper than purchasing small quantities. Even if there is Small loss, Savings easily offset loss.

*** Soda is a Finished Product and therefor a poor example. Also, most of the Cans I have seen Frozen..............Ruptured

 

[Two_Bears]

No ya don't! You don't even put flavorings or flavored liquids in the 'fridge, let alone the freezer. The volatile compounds in most flavorings we use do not respond well to refrigeration. Ever put a can of Coke in the freezer to chill it, forget about it, then try it when it thawed out? You go from "Coke" to "brown flavored sugar water." Many e-liquid flavorings respond the same way.

Unflavored nic in the freezer of course - as much as you can cram in there.

Just yesterday one of the moderators here reported putting an unopened bottle of ejuice in the freezer for years. When she took it out the eJuice was as good as brand new.

Your analogy of a can of coke does not apply because the Coca-Cola will freeze solid. Ejuice does not basically the cold slows down the agung process in the Juice increasing its shelf life. The PG acts as s safe antifreeze.

Ice crystals is what does the damage in tge can of Coke.

There is no water or should not be water in eJuice so almost NO damage occurs.

 

[GeorgeS]

I installed one of these yesterday. Ought to be plenty big enough to hold 20yrs of 100mg nicotine.

 

[JCinFLA]

@Two_Bears - Thought you might want to go back and edit your post #17. I did a real doubletake, and about spewed my coffee on my monitor, when I read about the ice crystals!

 

[Robert Cromwell]

The flavorings should not freeze much since they are in PG/VG and or some Alcohol suspension.