I also studiously avoid cardiologists so I don't have one but if I did I'll bet he or she would be a porker - Don't do as I do, do as I say.
Hospitals pushing to stop vaping but really have No Clue..
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I also studiously avoid cardiologists so I don't have one but if I did I'll bet he or she would be a porker - Don't do as I do, do as I say.
Too many people trying to impose their will on others. Probably nothing new really, just more visible thanks to modern day access to all things so-called news worthy.
My heart doctor said he'd rather I stop smoking. I showed him my vape next visit and he high fived me. He said a lung doctor might not be as enthusiastic about vaping as him but it is certainly better than smoking.
My heart doctor said he'd rather I stop smoking. I showed him my vape next visit and he high fived me. He said a lung doctor might not be as enthusiastic about vaping as him but it is certainly better than smoking.
Statins should be outlawed. Don't forget that margarine crap. I had to eat if for DECADES as a kid and it tastes like motor oil. I mean.... All those years of "I can't believe it's not butter." YEAH FABIO was traumatizing TOO. He sucked.
Also don't get me started on nutritionists. They are ALL fat the ones I have met (except the one who is actually competent.) I think nutritionists get in on food because they LOVE it that much. I mean, the one nutritionist who is a dear in other ways is like inflating like a balloon currently. She always brings the BEST/WORST desserts to whatever event. I don't get it. If my nutritionist was fat, I would think "How is this fat person gonna teach me how to get skinny?"
LoL then I have to do nutritional counseling at my center because we don't have one. I am somewhat knowledgeable but I am not going to make you a caloric FOOD plan. I'm uncomfortably skinny so I always talk about we ALL have challenges and tell my smoking story and how I nearly died.
It relaxes them AND I am skinny and like I like to think my clients think, "I sure wouldn't trust THAT one on drugs but SHE is skinny and also says, "I Get up at 5 am to do yoga, and I don't like 5 am at ALL. But I sure do like exercising enough to eat that unhealthy stuff SOME Of it, and it is also good for MY brain and PROBABLY yours.
I'm a good enthusiast, I get all wild and make the family get up and do the five fitness stations with me which I always hope "Dang did I go to the bathroom soon enough" because there is a LOT of jumping. But also laughing.
I was invited, upon occasion, to do smoking cessation classes and after I stopped laughing I was like, "No, I am not going to try and TEACH what I do not know how to DO."
But I sure do know eating/exercise a HELL of a lot more than some of those fat nutritionists.
We almost got a guy but he was a bit too freaking creepy about wanting to help moms like, breastfeed. You got the sense he would be STARING the whole time, like to .........e later.
That was my feedback. It was well received actually! LOL. I did say, "IDK talk to the real, competent nutritionist" but I guess she hated him too.
AnNA
Also don't get me started on nutritionists. They are ALL fat the ones I have met (except the one who is actually competent.) I think nutritionists get in on food because they LOVE it that much. I mean, the one nutritionist who is a dear in other ways is like inflating like a balloon currently. She always brings the BEST/WORST desserts to whatever event. I don't get it. If my nutritionist was fat, I would think "How is this fat person gonna teach me how to get skinny?"
LoL then I have to do nutritional counseling at my center because we don't have one. I am somewhat knowledgeable but I am not going to make you a caloric FOOD plan. I'm uncomfortably skinny so I always talk about we ALL have challenges and tell my smoking story and how I nearly died.
It relaxes them AND I am skinny and like I like to think my clients think, "I sure wouldn't trust THAT one on drugs but SHE is skinny and also says, "I Get up at 5 am to do yoga, and I don't like 5 am at ALL. But I sure do like exercising enough to eat that unhealthy stuff SOME Of it, and it is also good for MY brain and PROBABLY yours.
I'm a good enthusiast, I get all wild and make the family get up and do the five fitness stations with me which I always hope "Dang did I go to the bathroom soon enough" because there is a LOT of jumping. But also laughing.
I was invited, upon occasion, to do smoking cessation classes and after I stopped laughing I was like, "No, I am not going to try and TEACH what I do not know how to DO."
But I sure do know eating/exercise a HELL of a lot more than some of those fat nutritionists.
We almost got a guy but he was a bit too freaking creepy about wanting to help moms like, breastfeed. You got the sense he would be STARING the whole time, like to .........e later.
That was my feedback. It was well received actually! LOL. I did say, "IDK talk to the real, competent nutritionist" but I guess she hated him too.
AnNA
Since the issue has just recently popped up I am curious what is in the juice
The title of this thread is misleading.
Its really about one guys conversation with a "girl" (!?!?!?wut?!??!) from the pulmonary division about his vaping and not about "hospitals pushing to stop vaping"
Also really need some clarity on who this girl was and what her qualifications were! Why would a hospital send in a girl? Wouldnt they send in one of their qualified health professionals?
Its really about one guys conversation with a "girl" (!?!?!?wut?!??!) from the pulmonary division about his vaping and not about "hospitals pushing to stop vaping"
Also really need some clarity on who this girl was and what her qualifications were! Why would a hospital send in a girl? Wouldnt they send in one of their qualified health professionals?
My first social work advice was my first memory my mom was crying because my dad was about to die, and HIS mom said my mom "Worked him too hard and that is why he was dying."
I did not flip out about my dad dying, I climbed into bed with her and said, "Do you think sometimes people say mean things they don't mean because they are upset?"
LOL ask my head Montessori school teacher, she'd have been like, "Send Anna in to any hospital system and she would fix it. Not that I would do that to her but I bet she COULD."
Course, a lot of drugs, rock n roll and other bad stuff happened between now and then, I think I've gotten dumber, and certainly more disorganized. My social work skills have improved, though.
I think you could send in a bunch of five year old to run a hospital and also politics and they'd do a better job.
Also lobbying would be cheaper a lot of kids can be swayed easier with a lollipop than a stretch limo. For example.
My point stands though.
Anna
I did not flip out about my dad dying, I climbed into bed with her and said, "Do you think sometimes people say mean things they don't mean because they are upset?"
LOL ask my head Montessori school teacher, she'd have been like, "Send Anna in to any hospital system and she would fix it. Not that I would do that to her but I bet she COULD."
Course, a lot of drugs, rock n roll and other bad stuff happened between now and then, I think I've gotten dumber, and certainly more disorganized. My social work skills have improved, though.
I think you could send in a bunch of five year old to run a hospital and also politics and they'd do a better job.
Also lobbying would be cheaper a lot of kids can be swayed easier with a lollipop than a stretch limo. For example.
My point stands though.
Anna
Thing is if ya live long enough ya eventually realise every thing is bollocks.
I probably vape more than I should. I go through two Kayfun tanks of unflavored DIY juice every day. Do I worry about what's in the vape? Not really. Smoking worried me, but my vaping isn't really much of a concern other than the fact that too much vapor can irritate the lungs and throat. After all, plain old air is better than anything you inhale from an outside source. That said, I'll continue to vape on because it mimics the actions of smoking and I REALLY enjoyed smoking for the relaxation factor.
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Best wishes for your health John.
Read some of this after returning from a walk to the beach. On the trip, in addition to the needed air mix, I inhaled lots of Carbon Monoxide and other vehicle exhaust gases, tyre, brake and diesel particulates, the cig smoke of an inebriated person who pushed past me outside a pub, various atomised fats and smelly molecules in the expelled air from a line of cafes and takeaways. On the beach I had a hefty dose of ozone, various terpenes and whatever from a girls perfume ( she must have used the whole bottle) and those molecules that are required to make that classic seaside rotting seaweed smell.
I reckon the couple of vape puffs I had on my return were far less risky.
That girl was indeed talking complete bollocks.
Read some of this after returning from a walk to the beach. On the trip, in addition to the needed air mix, I inhaled lots of Carbon Monoxide and other vehicle exhaust gases, tyre, brake and diesel particulates, the cig smoke of an inebriated person who pushed past me outside a pub, various atomised fats and smelly molecules in the expelled air from a line of cafes and takeaways. On the beach I had a hefty dose of ozone, various terpenes and whatever from a girls perfume ( she must have used the whole bottle) and those molecules that are required to make that classic seaside rotting seaweed smell.
I reckon the couple of vape puffs I had on my return were far less risky.
That girl was indeed talking complete bollocks.
I agree about modern medical practices (at least here in the US) First off they treat symptoms... not the cause. Most times they just write a presciption for toxic "meds". Go in for a cold/flu (virus) they give you antibiotics. Complain about anything (I don't mean about the doctors/hospital... just anything in general) and they makes notes about you needing psychological help. They feed you crap, but seem to have no clue how important nutrition is. And god help you if you suggest natural/herbal remedies. So called "anti-depressants"... I love those TV commercial where they tell you all the side effectsDoctor gave me blood pressure med (my friend takes these and I read they are one of most dangerous) and the first day I took one I almost died... and he accidentally wrote the dosage as TWO a day... no way I was going to take a second one. Anyway... Thanks for putting up with my rant. And yes, mention vaping and it's like you are evil. It's all enough to drive someone to smoking!
So true! I do love my doctor because he is an old school common sense kind of guy.
He goes to all the lectures about new ideas, and keeps an open mind without falling for every gimmick.
I can talk about supplements and non-drug wats of dealing.
He’s happy I quit smoking, and cautiously optimistic about vaping. He’s waiting for more information on it, but he’s not computer literate, so it does me no good to mention any online articles. But I think since he knows my background, and that I agree there may be risks were not yet aware of, and I’m willing to take those risks, at least he’s okay with it.
I recall every gym teacher I had from grade 1 through end of high school was built like the Michelin Man.
The doctor I saw from childhood up until the time he passed away when I was about 30 was a true Marcus Welby type. He got his start in WWII as a medic and went through medical school after leaving the service.
Medicine has advanced, but it's a little intrusive with all the specialized practices, cat scans, MRIs, and expensive testing that goes on. I wonder sometimes how our parents and grandparents were able to live comfortably into their 80s and 90s without all the high tech diagnostics.
A diet free of artificial and processed ingredients, fewer medications and a much higher level of daily activity.
All I know is, I'm going to die of something. As long as it's not with an oxygen tank attached (that includes Scuba Diving BTW OMG!!) I'm fine with it.
Foiled again by my creator, man,
Also, I ignore a whole lot of it. I just eat normal, like you know fruits and vegetables and I don't jump on bandwagons,
Bandwagons are stupid. HELL I THINK bands are stupid. BUT you did not hear me say it HERE.
But, they SUCK. I have heard bands sometimes and thought "you know, those could kill me if I listen much more."
It's like my stupid PCP all worried my thyroid is suppressed How is it that my thyroid is suppressed and my T4 is LOW and that's a problem because THAT is the number you worry about.
BUT NO.
To be fair, she looked up the lithium interaction but I still hate her. And lithium. BUT NO.
Anna
Foiled again by my creator, man,
Also, I ignore a whole lot of it. I just eat normal, like you know fruits and vegetables and I don't jump on bandwagons,
Bandwagons are stupid. HELL I THINK bands are stupid. BUT you did not hear me say it HERE.
But, they SUCK. I have heard bands sometimes and thought "you know, those could kill me if I listen much more."
It's like my stupid PCP all worried my thyroid is suppressed How is it that my thyroid is suppressed and my T4 is LOW and that's a problem because THAT is the number you worry about.
BUT NO.
To be fair, she looked up the lithium interaction but I still hate her. And lithium. BUT NO.
Anna
Gaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! There is no place so full of ignorance, nowhere so full of benighted zombies, than the medical industry.
Next time:
Girl: Your still inhaling something and exhaling something that is not air.
You: Is that just air in those asthma inhalers?
Hint: PG is in the medical inhalers used for asthma and COPD.
I try to stay healthy just to avoid medical idiots and lunatics. There are some doctors who vape though. It's pretty inevitable. I have heard it from fellow vapers who tell me of the eleaf sticking out of doc's pocket, and others whose doctors said "bravo, I quit smoking that way too". Mostly though, the medical zombie force will kill you.
When I was in the hospital for an extended stay I asked the nurse if I could vape in the room.
She said no....not while I'm in the room....
I never vaped when she was in the room.
My cardiologist is fine with my vaping.
Haven't said anything to my GP. I let him figure out why I'm so healthy.
She said no....not while I'm in the room...
.I never vaped when she was in the room.
My cardiologist is fine with my vaping.
Haven't said anything to my GP. I let him figure out why I'm so healthy.
It's advanced, but I do not know if it is better. Well, I guess for some people. But, thing is, with all the specialization, they seem to have forgotten that the body parts are connected and work together. The leg bone is connected to the... and so on. What they seem to be lacking is someone who specializes in connecting the dots and figures out where the source of the problem that is leading to the fallout in other parts of the body. So, yeah, Marcus Welby types had their benefits.
How long ago? I ask, because I'm betting nowadays they would tell you NO. Since they appear to consider it the same as smoking... ugh.When I was in the hospital for an extended stay I asked the nurse if I could vape in the room.
She said no....not while I'm in the room...
I never vaped when she was in the room.
My cardiologist is fine with my vaping.
Haven't said anything to my GP. I let him figure out why I'm so healthy.
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