House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[Zen~]

Nope. I have a .357 and .45 Smith & Wesson revolver made out of it...

Oh, That's Aluminum/Scandium Alloy... Al-Sc is used for firearms... the Aluminum renders the Sc radioactively inert and the combination in alloy hardens things up... Straight Scandium is as flammable as magnesium and quite soft on it's own, even though it's higher up the periodic table than Titanium... and it only takes a few grams of Scandium in Al-Sc to get the desired effect. The most recent trade price I've seen on pure Scandium was a couple years ago... at $10,000 per pound! It is most certainly higher now considering they mine very very little of the stuff annually... I believe the numbers are less than 500 Kg per year. Rare and EXPENSIVE stuff!

 

[UA72Riddle]

Well, the tungsten I use is called "thoriated tungsten".....I think....lol

 

[Zen~]

Well, the tungsten I use is called "thoriated tungsten".....I think....lol

LOL, speaking of radioactive materials...

Thorium-232 is added to tungsten to create "thoriated tungsten"... That stuff is usually used in Vacuum Tubes to increase electron emissions...

 

[lexi60]

Interesting..
Well, atleast it's shiny.. We all like shiny! Lol.

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[Zen~]

Interesting..
Well, atleast it's shiny.. We all like shiny!

Shiny is good.

 

[Hrathor]

Oh, That's Aluminum/Scandium Alloy... Al-Sc is used for firearms... the Aluminum renders the Sc radioactively inert and the combination in alloy hardens things up... Straight Scandium is as flammable as magnesium and quite soft on it's own, even though it's higher up the periodic table than Titanium... and it only takes a few grams of Scandium in Al-Sc to get the desired effect. The most recent trade price I've seen on pure Scandium was a couple years ago... at $10,000 per pound! It is most certainly higher now considering they mine very very little of the stuff annually... I believe the numbers are less than 500 Kg per year. Rare and EXPENSIVE stuff!

I don't believe you can get a piece big enough to make, say, a car engine out of, either. Something about how hard it is to process maybe. That's just what I've heard. Never researched it and I'm certainly not an expert on rare metals.

 

[Drottwiler]

Youins are to tecinal for me. All I care is if it falls and bounces I can pick it up and keep vaping


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[Paislia]

This has been an extremely educational and enlightening 30 mins. of reading. I thank you all. Must. Go. Ponder.

 

[Capt.Louisville]

Youins are to tecinal for me. All I care is if it falls and bounces I can pick it up and keep vaping


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I double-dog like that.

 

[yvilla]

Interesting..
Well, atleast it's shiny.. We all like shiny! Lol.

Not really. I've been wondering for weeks about the possibility of an anodized aluminum Zenesis, so it could be black. Black PVs are the only kind I like.

I've hesitated on posing the question though, because I have no idea if there would be any issues with the anodized surface being in contact with liquid, or even if there would be conductivity issues created. But since the discussion has veered in this direction of alternative materials, I decided not to worry about revealing my ignorance in this area and ask - would that be a feasible possibility? A black mini would be my dream Zenesis!

 

[Zen~]

Not really. I've been wondering for weeks about the possibility of an anodized aluminum Zenesis, so it could be black. Black PVs are the only kind I like.

There's no plans for colors at this time, and you KNOW I would do almost anything for you, Yolanda!

 

[vicsan]

Not really. I've been wondering for weeks about the possibility of an anodized aluminum Zenesis, so it could be black. Black PVs are the only kind I like.

I've hesitated on posing the question though, because I have no idea if there would be any issues with the anodized surface being in contact with liquid, or even if there would be conductivity issues created. But since the discussion has veered in this direction of alternative materials, I decided not to worry about revealing my ignorance in this area and ask - would that be a feasible possibility? A black mini would be my dream Zenesis!

You can blacken Stainless Steel by oxidizing it yourself. Caswell Inc. - Black Oxide Kit
scroll to the bottom of the page:
For Stainless Steel:

Stainless Steel Blackener 370 is an acidic liquid concentrate used full strength or diluted with up to 3 parts water to blacken stainless steel at room temperature. Recommended for color coding parts and blackening engravings on stainless steels. Produces a pleasing dark gray/black finish. Seal with Caswell Sealer.

Now also available in a Gel formula kit. Blackener stays where you put it. Simply apply with a brush or swab, allow to sit on the part for 1-2 minutes and rinse off. Then seal with the included Caswell Sealer.

Just thought I'd throw it out here for you. You might want to ask Zen if this sealer would be OK to use around the atty though. He'll know, I'm sure. I'm no chemist, so I don't know if this stuff would be safe on a mod or not. You could probably leave it unsealed also, for a matte finish.

 

[gigilex510]

great advice I know It's not for me but thank you!

 

[yvilla]

Thanks for the detailed response vicsan.

I did do a little research on this a while back - because I'm so into black vaping gear that I wondered about trying to turn my Don and my Bulli atomizers black. However, the few images I saw on the web of the results of using black oxide seemed to show a decidedly grey, and much less than deep black, look. I guess I'm into shiny after all, but a totally deep and black shiny, if you know what I mean (like the black SD - I think I'm talking about what you see with black powdercoating, right?). Anyway, perhaps I just didn't see the best representations of what black oxide can do.

Then of course there's the question both you and I noted - the possible effects either kind of coating would have when found on the indside of a tank, and exposed to your eliquid, like with a Zenesis.

 

[Brewzz]

Not sure how the baking temps would affect any non-removable parts, but powder coating might be an option. the parts you don't want coated, like those in contact with liquid and the atty section, can be shielded from the coating process. A friend used to work in a powder coating shop. He would occasionally do few small bike parts for me for free, when they were doing larger commercial orders.

 

[vicsan]

Thanks for the detailed response vicsan.

I did do a little research on this a while back - because I'm so into black vaping gear that I wondered about trying to turn my Don and my Bulli atomizers black. However, the few images I saw on the web of the results of using black oxide seemed to show a decidedly grey, and much less than deep black, look. I guess I'm into shiny after all, but a totally deep and black shiny, if you know what I mean (like the black SD - I think I'm talking about what you see with black powdercoating, right?). Anyway, perhaps I just didn't see the best representations of what black oxide can do.

Then of course there's the question both you and I noted - the possible effects either kind of coating would have when found on the indside of a tank, and exposed to your eliquid, like with a Zenesis.

Yeah, I know the black/black you're looking for.

I know when I use to oxidize my sterling silver jewelry I made, several coats of the liver sulfur would make it darker. I imagine the same could be done with stainless steel. Fine sanding with steel wool makes the metal absorb the oxidation deeper also. Maybe take an inexpensive piece of Stainless Steel and experiment?

I don't think I'd want ANY kind of chemical inside my tank though. I don't think that's anything I'd want to inhale. It might look pretty cool to oxidize the body, and top cap and just leave the tank stainless.

Anyway...it was just a random thought I had. It might be fun to try sometime.

 

[Brewzz]

It might look pretty cool to oxidize the body, and top cap and just leave the tank stainless.

That's kind of the thought I had with the powder coating, Black on the main body and the top cap, and leave the tank area and maybe the bottom cap plain stainless.

 

[vicsan]

That's kind of the thought I had with the powder coating, Black on the main body and the top cap, and leave the tank area and maybe the bottom cap plain stainless.

Yeah...two-toned would look really awesome and then you would have no worries about inhaling tank chemicals. I REALLY LIKE the idea of having a surgical stainless steel tank too.

 

[Capt.Louisville]

Stainless Steel is my favorite color. It goes with everything for every occasion.

 

[Brewzz]

Stainless Steel is my favorite color. It goes with everything for every occasion.

Personally, I tend to agree. My mini and Z-Atty will stay bare stainless. I was just throwing out some ideas and thoughts for those that might prefer something different.