House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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stealfdawg

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using mesh wick bro? may not be oxidized enough / properly... I've found that a few more burns w/ more juice each time, helps that out a bit.... ive heard a few peeps give up on mesh wick rebuildables because they didnt do it enough, so they dont wick the way it's supposed to...patience grasshopper...

edit: blah forgot that zen's video talks about that too...
this was an intro to rebuildables for me probably a bad one at that but I figuered Id better try with my own the failure will be mine soley so gonna keep on trying Im getting a great vape when the thing wicks I just think I need to burn it more!
 

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LOL! I'm just thinking if this works, the juice collection in the tank after a day of me dripping eleventy-five different flavors would be really interesting! :laugh:

Yeah, and naming that flavor would be fun as well...most likely it would be called yuck....but if you used up all of one flavor before switching it shouldn't be too bad
 

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air hole is perpendicular from wick wick is 325x325 80/20 vg/pg coil doesnt seem to have any shorts...how can I tell its firing every time no red glow on kanthal and been soaking it every two or three fires....
Possibly flooded. The only time you should get red glow is on a dry burn. Partial (red near the neg. or pos. post) indicates a short. If you get bad taste & low vapor production, it seems likely to be flooded. Try not "soaking" it & see if it improves. I've found there is a big learning curve in regard to juice & mesh. You really have to experiment. I'm currently using 400 mesh with 100% VG and having excellent results.
 

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Possibly flooded. The only time you should get red glow is on a dry burn. Partial (red near the neg. or pos. post) indicates a short. If you get bad taste & low vapor production, it seems likely to be flooded. Try not "soaking" it & see if it improves. I've found there is a big learning curve in regard to juice & mesh. You really have to experiment. I'm currently using 400 mesh with 100% VG and having excellent results.
ok so red glow indicates short wick not oxidized enough?
ok just took cap off whole wick glows after a bit but I am getting red near terminals wtf?
 
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ok so red glow indicates short wick not oxidized enough?
If only part of the coil lights up, it's a short. If the entire coil lights simultaneously, it's a dry burn & you have a wicking problem.
In my experience shorts can occur due to distance from the + or - post. The coil should be very close, just not touching. If adjusting that doesn't fix it, then your wick may not be properly oxidized. Insulating where the wick travels through the atomizer body with something like ptfe tubing can save you a lot of headaches.
 

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If only part of the coil lights up, it's a short. If the entire coil lights simultaneously, it's a dry burn & you have a wicking problem.
In my experience shorts can occur due to distance from the + or - post. The coil should be very close, just not touching. If adjusting that doesn't fix it, then your wick may not be properly oxidized. Insulating where the wick travels through the atomizer body with something like ptfe tubing can save you a lot of headaches.
ok so when this thing vapes what I feel is correct its pretty good! I just stuck a BIG ol fork in ma .... for waiting I was being patient for my mini but now Im really chompin at the bit DANG IT!! WHAT HAVE I DONE!
 

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Here's an example of a properly firing wick/coil @ 3.7V. What's your setup look like in comparison?

my wick is way smaller in diameter thats probably my issue! and its not that close to my terminals hmmm? well there's always tomorrow...my wick is a lttle smaller than a coffee stir stick (plastic kind)
 

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80% VG juice... Thin that out by about 15% with distiller water... See if it wicks... Also it sounds like you rolled your wick a bit too tight.

If its oxidized correctly you can wrap the kanthal tight to the wick... It won't short if done properly... Also... I've recently discovered that oxidizing the entire wick increases the wicking ability.
 

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Wick should be snug (not tight) in the atomizer body. It also shouldn't be rolled too loose or tight. I guess what I'm saying is there is a happy medium to be found that requires some experimentation. After that, you can just tweak your settings for other juices. Once you hit the sweet spot it's a thing of beauty. Taste like you've never experienced. Stick with it & you'll get there.
 

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Please tell me the Stardust things work well. I'm hoping to use them (and my Hog until the atty gives out) until my ZAU is ready in April. I'm so over filler cartos, OMG.


Well... right now I have about 8 tanks and 4 Stardusts, 2 bottom feeders and an "unnamed" genesis in front of me, all with different flavors. I'm hoping for my Zenesis to become my main PV, with the others just hanging around for a change of flavor.


LOL! I'm just thinking if this works, the juice collection in the tank after a day of me dripping eleventy-five different flavors would be really interesting! :laugh:
 

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Some may consider this post sacrilegious. I apologize in advance...

I'm curious to know how many people plan on using the Zenesis as their primary PV. I see it working really well for vapers that have a favorite "all day vape," but not so much for those who like to change flavors on a regular basis. Unless, of course, they purchase several Zeneses (that's the plural of Zenesis, right?) to accommodate the different flavors they vape throughout the day...

I, for one, have only a few flavors I could vape all day everyday, but several others I really enjoy in small amounts to break up the "monotony" of a single juice. Can't really beat the convenience of unscrewing an atty or carto for a flavor change. I mostly drip when I have my hands free and available like when I'm home watching TV, but I use cartos when I'm driving or at work.

Thoughts?

That is literally the reason I have do many on order. I use 2-5 juices daily and felt the need for many.
 

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Hola Feller Zenfidels, I have been lurking this thread while I was trying the Zenesis 18650 that I received from last years run. Bellow are my thoughts :vapor:

It is working great ! I really like the simplicity of the design and the ability to change the tubes with ease. I did not write a review sooner since I wanted to give it enough time to do a fair one. I have had hardware that impresses me for a few days and as the gremlins start showing up I realize they were not what I had hoped.

At this point I can say with confidence the Zenesis is truly an exceptional piece and the only downside would be user error. When I first started using genesis attys it took me a few tries to get it, and frustration did set in a couple of times. But now that I have this process down, I can say there is no other atty in the market that compares to a genesis. Awesome throat hit, awesome vapor and we have full control. O and did I mention it's dirt cheap to run ? I have a few Genesis mods that I have been using constantly for a few months and I haven't used a 4th of the 400 mesh sheet, and I don't think I have made a decent dent on the kanthal roll. The expensive part is trying to stop buying mods. Did someone say shiny ? ? ? shiiiinyyyy

I would venture to say some users may find the button action a little bit different if they are not used to bottom buttons. By the way I received a prototype button section with venting. This is the only one out there :2cool: Zen graciously made my PV with it as a test run, and I can only say the button works flawlessly. I believe Zen may incorporate the venting on a design that will be released later this year (Hint, hint 01/23/2012 to 02/09/2013) and I'm sure he will set me straight if I am whistling Dixie.

I have even started making my own menthol juice to add to the savings for the shiny fund, and found the sweet spot by using a 24 Nic Mix with 80/20 PG/VG, 15 to 20 % Crystals dissolved with PGA (Everclear 151 since I live in CA), a bit of wintergreen, spearmint and koolada. That thing unplugs the sinuses all day long lol

Thanks again for all your help Mike and look forward to the Zen-G

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RE: the DIY atty being discussed...

I want to make sure we don't freak out people that are thinking about a Zenesis PV... The Zenesis PV will come with pre-rolled wicks that are correctly rolled and properly oxidized so you will not experience this same issue.

The zenesis PV is NOT a DIY experiment... It's a well designed solution that works without all the tinkering.
 

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Sorry. Just trying to help the guy out.

It's totally cool to help, as long as people realize he's not having trouble with a Zenesis or Z-Atty!

The whole point of the Zenesis is to avoid the problems most DIY genesis owners experience by designing a system that works without all the fidgeting!

I sincerely appreciate the help you're giving him, but he shouldn't expect to experience these problems when his PV arrives! Nobody should! If anything, this can help to illustrate why the Zenesis is a great choice for folks that want a mesh Rebuildable without the learning curve.
 

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*raises hand* Yep, I want that! :D


It's totally cool to help, as long as people realize he's not having trouble with a Zenesis or Z-Atty!

The whole point of the Zenesis is to avoid the problems most DIY genesis owners experience by designing a system that works without all the fidgeting!

I sincerely appreciate the help you're giving him, but he shouldn't expect to experience these problems when his PV arrives! Nobody should! If anything, this can help to illustrate why the Zenesis is a great choice for folks that want a mesh Rebuildable without the learning curve.
 
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