i thought the jan. 15 deadline was just for the price. after that it went up. oh well. guess im just excited and impatient. LOL. and jealous. soon enough i will get my standard and im sure i'll have a huge smile on my face.
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Wow, ok so Zen had to go outta town.... "Huge frown" but as we say in my neck of the woods, "It is, what it is" and on that note, the Coup is in full effect... My Darwin stopped charging and Brandon can't replace it for two weeks... My SS Ggts is always complaining that he never sees the light of day anymore, keeps begging for a z-atty g, and my provari keeps talking about this vacation I promised, but has yet to come.. It's like dealing with children over here.... I need a baby sitter... Or at least a big brother "my standard" to keep em in line..... And I find out today that I have to deal with these unruly pv's all weekend with no help from my zenesis....
It is what it is
It is what it is.....
Ok rant over..
And on that note..Zen have a great flight... May all your business today, Be smoother than Keith Stone.....
It is what it is
It is what it is.....
Ok rant over..
And on that note..Zen have a great flight... May all your business today, Be smoother than Keith Stone.....
Wish I could join in on the love-fest and I'm sure I'll be able to at some point soon. I'm taking solace in the fact that it's working well for so many - that is a very good sign - it means that my issues are isolated and can/will be worked out. Woo hoo! I've got way too much $$ and time and energy invested in this to give up now.
So far though, I only have two options - 1) don't post at all - or - 2) play the roll of Debbie Downer.
My experience so far has been a nightmare, I've gotten the full tour. Machining marks (minor on the standard, major on the mini - but hey, these are the least of my worries), machining oil (batts were swimming in it), cracked tube and the switch (on the standard) from hell.
The insides of my lips are chapped and the back of my throat is sore ... I've now come to believe that machining oil somehow got into my atty chamber (mini) and contaminated the wick that came installed. At least that's my theory, nothing else makes any sense.
So .. I'm on hold till the video comes out this weekend, gonna watch that first then tear the mini down (std is out of commission - crack has spread to the point where it could shatter if I try to use it any more - till a new tank arrives).
Will take the mini apart, clean every piece, put her back together and try a new wick. Gonna try the 325 this time, maybe my 50/50, 40/60 juice will flow better.
I'll post a copy of this over in the "Issues" thread, which I sooo hope doesn't end up being my own personal thread, lol.
It will get better ... It will get better ... It will get better ...
So far though, I only have two options - 1) don't post at all - or - 2) play the roll of Debbie Downer.
My experience so far has been a nightmare, I've gotten the full tour. Machining marks (minor on the standard, major on the mini - but hey, these are the least of my worries), machining oil (batts were swimming in it), cracked tube and the switch (on the standard) from hell.
The insides of my lips are chapped and the back of my throat is sore ... I've now come to believe that machining oil somehow got into my atty chamber (mini) and contaminated the wick that came installed. At least that's my theory, nothing else makes any sense.
So .. I'm on hold till the video comes out this weekend, gonna watch that first then tear the mini down (std is out of commission - crack has spread to the point where it could shatter if I try to use it any more - till a new tank arrives).
Will take the mini apart, clean every piece, put her back together and try a new wick. Gonna try the 325 this time, maybe my 50/50, 40/60 juice will flow better.
I'll post a copy of this over in the "Issues" thread, which I sooo hope doesn't end up being my own personal thread, lol.
It will get better ... It will get better ... It will get better ...
I was up all night worried (not really) about the AFC drip tip not fitting in some of the Zenesis and it got me thinking.
If it's only off by a very small amount you could freeze the driptip and if need be heat the cap 
and through the magic of contraction and expansion you may get them to meet somewhere in the middle.
There is one caveat, you should really make sure you love that drip tip, because reversing this process and getting the drip-tip out may be an excercise in futility. Not to worry Zen sells replacement caps if you lose them....or permenantly press-fit them to a drip tip. You may be removing the entire cap to dump condensation out as you may not get that drip tip out of there without a herculian effort or an act of God. I guess you could oil the hole first (Edit: use something natural and non toxic) & even this may not help you retrieve it after it expands, but maybe it will give you a fighting chance.
(Update: If you lube, clean it too & make sure you don't get any oil residue on to the wick or in your fluid res.)
A few years ago my company had a tolerance problem on a media server product we manufactured where a thick curved piece of T6061 aluminum machined with the product name and company logo required a different finish than the rest of the front panel of the chassis. It was intended to be machined for a 'press fit' to a female inset on the front panel of the product's chassis, but unfortunatley it was machined slightly too big to be press fitted. We froze the piece and quickly popped them in and once it begin to warm up and expand they were like one piece which was intended as it made the front panel look like it was one piece of metal and not the kludge it actually was.
So you must ask yourself; "are you crazy enough to try this?"
The hard part of this post was deciding between press fit, pressed fitted, pressed fit, or press fitted. I still don't know which is correct!
If it's only off by a very small amount you could freeze the driptip
and if need be heat the cap and through the magic of contraction and expansion you may get them to meet somewhere in the middle.There is one caveat, you should really make sure you love that drip tip, because reversing this process and getting the drip-tip out may be an excercise in futility. Not to worry Zen sells replacement caps if you lose them....or permenantly press-fit them to a drip tip.
You may be removing the entire cap to dump condensation out as you may not get that drip tip out of there without a herculian effort or an act of God. I guess you could oil the hole first (Edit: use something natural and non toxic) & even this may not help you retrieve it after it expands, but maybe it will give you a fighting chance. (Update: If you lube, clean it too & make sure you don't get any oil residue on to the wick or in your fluid res.)
A few years ago my company had a tolerance problem on a media server product we manufactured where a thick curved piece of T6061 aluminum machined with the product name and company logo required a different finish than the rest of the front panel of the chassis. It was intended to be machined for a 'press fit' to a female inset on the front panel of the product's chassis, but unfortunatley it was machined slightly too big to be press fitted. We froze the piece and quickly popped them in and once it begin to warm up and expand they were like one piece which was intended as it made the front panel look like it was one piece of metal and not the kludge it actually was.
So you must ask yourself; "are you crazy enough to try this?"
The hard part of this post was deciding between press fit, pressed fitted, pressed fit, or press fitted. I still don't know which is correct!
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I recently bought a Vision Stone Version 2 Atty. The coil requires break in because it's thicker and so it likes to throw a temper tantrum for a couple of days during which time it will launch hot juice up the driptip, makes weird violent sputtering/crackling/popping noises, and frequently torment you with relentless bad tasting and throat punishing dratty hits. The base and cap are stainless steel and also had some machining oil residue on them. I did rinse them out, but maybe I should have tried harder or used more soap to cut through the layer of oil better. What I never considered was that the oil may already been coated on the silica wick and I didn't think to clean that prior to using it because the oil residue wasn't bad. I was in a hurry to try it out and maybe I should have considered soaking the wick and coil in alcohol to dissipate any oil residue that likley coated the wick.
I had throat problems for a couple of weeks and some difficulty swallowing and was worried I had really done some damage. I have often wondered was this just a dratty hit? Is it the super heated air that ruins the throat, is it vaporized metal particles from the coil or leftover from the machining process, burnt fluid/burnt wick, or was it machining oil that got up the wick and onto the coil that caused my mouth and throat problems.
You may have helped me figured out why I had a simliar experience with a different product.
I think any of this information is just good for everyone as it leads to solutions. I don't think you're a Debbie Downer. Zen has been transparent about issues that have arose and genuinely seems to care about rectifying them.
On a positive note, my throat and mouth are fine and I am chain vaping
with no after effects. 
i hope you went to The House of Guitars while you were picking it up.... always fun to cruise through the HOG!
press fit, pressed fitted, pressed fit, or press fitted. I still don't know which is correct!
I think it´s press fit and press fitted is an adjective...
I was up all night worried (not really) about the AFC drip tip not fitting in some of the Zenesis and it got me thinking.
If it's only off by a very small amount you could freeze the driptip
There is one caveat, you should really make sure you love that drip tip, because reversing this process and getting the drip-tip out may be an excercise in futility. Not to worry Zen sells replacement caps if you lose them....or permenantly press-fit them to a drip tip.
A few years ago my company had a problem on a media server product we manufactured where a thick curved piece of T6061 aluminum machined with the product name and company logo that required a different finish than the rest of the front panel of the chassis. It was intended to be machined for a 'press fit' to a female inset on the front panel of the product's chassis, but unfortunatley it was machined slightly too big to be press fitted as intended. We froze the piece and quickly popped them in and once it begin to warm up and expand they were like one piece which was intended as it made the front panel look like it one piece of metal and not the kludge it actually was.
So you must ask yourself; "are you crazy enough to try this?"
The hard part of this post was deciding between press fit, pressed fitted, pressed fit, or press fitted. I still don't know which is correct!
I think you chose correctly! This is a brilliant idea, but like you said, just be darn sure you like the DT.
What about a Dremel with a metal bur set and a little machine oil?
Then finish it with a teflon pad. I think I would try something less permanent first and then, as a last resort, the permanent installation. The Dremel, if you own one already, is a cheap fix. All you would need is an inexpensive bur set.ON EDIT: This is to be used on the DRIP TIP, NOT the top cap.
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I hope you guys arent talking about dremeling the cap ??
Wouldnt it be easier to sand down the DT lil instead ??
and if you open up the hole in the cap some tips may be tooooo loose
Wouldnt it be easier to sand down the DT lil instead ??
and if you open up the hole in the cap some tips may be tooooo loose
This is a brilliant idea, but like you said, just be darn sure you like the DT.
What about a Dremel with a metal bur set and a little machine oil?
Are we talking enlarging the hole on the cap or widdling down the tip?
I might be hesistant because it may look "Homer Simpson-esque" when I got done with it. I also am not sure if this wouldn't cause issues with other driptips being loose as Zen pointed out earlier. I guess it depends if the tolerance is off on the tip or the cap and how handy you are with a dremel.
Getting the driptip turned down would probably the safer solution as it's cheaper than a new cap.
A small lathe if you have access to one and a bit of sandpaper or a stone works great for a slightly oversize fit. You could also probably fit the mouthpiece on a dremel and staple some sandpaper to a wood bench to take some material off. Safety glasses are recommended either way!
THE DRIP TIP! No, no, no....do not do anything to the top cap! I suppose I should clarify that in the post.
THE DRIP TIP! No, no, no....do not do anything to the top cap! I suppose I should clarify that in the post.
which drip tips are you having issues with?
try putting noalox on it. that is the only advice I have! (inside joke)
Boba's Bounty + 4 wraps + 325 =
This 'Boba's Bounty' you mention...my interest is piqued. The name alone makes me want it. Now I just need to know.. what is it?
E-Juice Nectar of the Gods? Describe it for me.
why go thru all that work ............ (unless you have a lathe and too much time on yer hands) just roll THE DT in some sandpaper for a couple seconds at a time and try it till it fits nicely Not the CAP
after a day im still getting burnt hits like crazy. have to hold it upside down for 10 seconds after every hit. and vapor production is still extremely low. ugh ill get it working right eventually
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