Hahaha sick writing Tim, I could see it in my head, I think I may have actually experienced some of that myself.... Can one of the 3D render guys do a zenesis standard bent and stretched to fill the Nike "swoosh" check mark with the words "Just vape It." above or below....I'd love that as a background pic!
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I wanted to post a comparison of the Katana and the Zenesis.
I have had many ask (in PM) because I have both devices. I am now prepared to do a side by side as I have had both long enough to do that. Mind you, I am not one to bash others devices. I am not one to bash in general. I feel that badmouthing others in general makes you look like an .... I just want to give a honest comparison and my thoughts. Mind you, these are my first devices of this kind and what I will say will come from the point of view of a someone who had never owned a genesis device before owning these.
I received my katana first. I immediately turned a screw inside too hard and broke it. This happened mind you before I even used it ONCE. I had done this because the screw seemed to be uneven. The good news is that my mistake helped at least a couple of other people I know not break theirs by doing the same thing.
I sent it to my friend Lorderos and he promptly fixed it for me. He is a amazing person and a great resource. He is very fond of those devices and respectful of the maker. I am going to try to do the same while comparing the two. I am going to give the same respect to Zen.
Here are my thoughts and things that I have noticed so far.
The Katana for whatever reason, seems to be more "photogenic" There are more curves and angles and perhaps this is why. I can tell you that in person, the Zenesis is very beautiful as well. Most that own them by now would probably agree that it is definitely more impressive in person than in the pictures. Maybe it is because of the solid construction and maybe the weight.
The Katana is lighter. I would not go as far to say it feels flimsy, but the Zenesis feels more substantial in your hands. Part of it is the weight, and partly because it just feels more solid.
There are features that many find appealing about the Katana that I would like to discuss. There is the ability to convert it from a 18650 device to a smaller 18350 device. This was a very appealing feature. A convertible of sorts. While this was super appealing, I have found that I do not use it in both modes in the same period of time. I normally leave one tube at home and then just leave it in the way that I set it up when I took it. In the end this which I found so appealing, really did not end up being a huge advantage for me. Now that I am fortunate enough to own both a mini and a standard, this feature and they way I use them has become a moot issue.
The tank screw on cover is another feature that many like for its "cool" factor. Once again, I was excited about this, but realized that the tank is plastic and that it would not break and in the end it sometimes is not really necessary as I have to unscrew it to see how much juice is in there. I guess it is possible that the cover might protect the tank in the case of a serious mishap, but once again being plastic I would be surprised. I have extra plastic to make tanks as well. I have to admit it does look good though.
The screw on tank is probably the main feature that most love. I get this. Having broken a number of coils in my pocket when the cap comes off, I can see why this feature might be appealing. That being said, from what I understand the adjustable throat hit is not a possibility with this type of cap and Zen has chosen to take that route. I can understand why. Although, I do not use this feature often, I know many do. I do love just being able to pop the top off at will as it is much quicker.
The Katana has a lock ring that is a nice feature. I will not say it is any better or easier than just unscrewing the Zenesis, but I do know when it is fully locked. With the Zenesis, I probably unscrew it farther than it has to go just to make sure.
I find that in general, the threads are much cleaner and just work easier on the Zenesis. My Katana squeaks as I unscrew it which is unsettling for my dog who thinks it is a squirrel.
I find it much easier to unscrew the screws in the Zenesis. I have never understood why anything would use a conventional screw any longer. They are often hard to keep the screwdriver in place. On the Katana, the screw hole has a screw which is so small that it sometimes takes about 10 min to get it back in. I tried to get a magnetic screwdriver, but that did not work. I tried to magnetize the screw, that did not work. I finally just left it out. The positive and negative screws have the same ones and I personally find them harder to work than the ones on the Zenesis. The fact that one size screwdriver may be a advantage here, but as I said I personally do not know why anyone would use a conventional screw, when to me there seem to be better options. Even a phillips head would have been easier.
The switch on the Katana has a spring. It is fine, but I much prefer the magnets on the Zenesis. I purchased ones specifically to put in the Katana, but have yet to do that. The magnets provide a much smoother push.
I find that the taste is better to me on the Zenesis. Why this is the case, I cannot explain. I made the wick on the Katana, and while I thought I did a fine job, this could have some effect. Also, the airhole in the cap is small. I know people are drilling them out, but I am somewhat afraid to do that. When I first began using the Zenesis, it was a little airy for me. I now find that I prefer it. So much so, that I purchased adjustable drip tips, but do not use them.
The Zenesis fully comes apart and easily for cleaning. The Katana is cleaned by emptying the tank, and filling a syringe with water and flushing it out. Personally, I like to clean it out completely. I also like that no water is left in after I clean it.
I can understand why compared to other genesis devices, many would love the Katana. It is a nice device with some cool and even useful features. Mine is sitting cleaned currently in my box of toys and has been replaced currently by my Zenesi.
One thing to note is the entire package of what you receive from Zen. Wicks already made, coil, tools, case etc. You receive a entire package all ready with everything. Nothing to buy. Once again, some might like to futz. I know I do. I bought mesh and a blowtorch and will still continue to make my own stuff but just because I want to, not because I have to.
I love the fact that the person making them is here in the USA and that if necessary, I can just ship it off to him to fix. I was fortunate to have this in someone else, but I am sure our friend Lorderos does not want to do this full time. It is not that everything I buy is USA made, but if I can, I prefer to.
summary.
The Zenesis is easier to clean and use. It is much more solid and of course heavier, but for me, it just seems to be put together tighter. I like the cleaning method. I like that it is made in the USA. I like the switch. I like the fuzed quartz tanks. I like the draw. I like the fact that I could clobber any mugger (with the device itself) that tried to take it from me.
As I mentioned the Katana has a couple of features that might be appealing to some. The main one for me is the screw cap because of the way I carry. That being said, I have ended up with a pocket full of juice from that device tipping in the wrong way.
I just prefer the Zenesis because of the many reasons I listed.
I guess the most telling thing might be this. I am going out of town this weekend, and strongly considered taking the Katana instead of any of my Zenesis devices. Not because I preferred it or because of the convertible factor, but honestly because if it was confiscated at the airport, I would not be as upset as if they took my Zenesis devices. This is not meant to be a bashing of that device. It is just how I feel.
I have had many ask (in PM) because I have both devices. I am now prepared to do a side by side as I have had both long enough to do that. Mind you, I am not one to bash others devices. I am not one to bash in general. I feel that badmouthing others in general makes you look like an .... I just want to give a honest comparison and my thoughts. Mind you, these are my first devices of this kind and what I will say will come from the point of view of a someone who had never owned a genesis device before owning these.
I received my katana first. I immediately turned a screw inside too hard and broke it. This happened mind you before I even used it ONCE. I had done this because the screw seemed to be uneven. The good news is that my mistake helped at least a couple of other people I know not break theirs by doing the same thing.
I sent it to my friend Lorderos and he promptly fixed it for me. He is a amazing person and a great resource. He is very fond of those devices and respectful of the maker. I am going to try to do the same while comparing the two. I am going to give the same respect to Zen.
Here are my thoughts and things that I have noticed so far.
The Katana for whatever reason, seems to be more "photogenic" There are more curves and angles and perhaps this is why. I can tell you that in person, the Zenesis is very beautiful as well. Most that own them by now would probably agree that it is definitely more impressive in person than in the pictures. Maybe it is because of the solid construction and maybe the weight.
The Katana is lighter. I would not go as far to say it feels flimsy, but the Zenesis feels more substantial in your hands. Part of it is the weight, and partly because it just feels more solid.
There are features that many find appealing about the Katana that I would like to discuss. There is the ability to convert it from a 18650 device to a smaller 18350 device. This was a very appealing feature. A convertible of sorts. While this was super appealing, I have found that I do not use it in both modes in the same period of time. I normally leave one tube at home and then just leave it in the way that I set it up when I took it. In the end this which I found so appealing, really did not end up being a huge advantage for me. Now that I am fortunate enough to own both a mini and a standard, this feature and they way I use them has become a moot issue.
The tank screw on cover is another feature that many like for its "cool" factor. Once again, I was excited about this, but realized that the tank is plastic and that it would not break and in the end it sometimes is not really necessary as I have to unscrew it to see how much juice is in there. I guess it is possible that the cover might protect the tank in the case of a serious mishap, but once again being plastic I would be surprised. I have extra plastic to make tanks as well. I have to admit it does look good though.
The screw on tank is probably the main feature that most love. I get this. Having broken a number of coils in my pocket when the cap comes off, I can see why this feature might be appealing. That being said, from what I understand the adjustable throat hit is not a possibility with this type of cap and Zen has chosen to take that route. I can understand why. Although, I do not use this feature often, I know many do. I do love just being able to pop the top off at will as it is much quicker.
The Katana has a lock ring that is a nice feature. I will not say it is any better or easier than just unscrewing the Zenesis, but I do know when it is fully locked. With the Zenesis, I probably unscrew it farther than it has to go just to make sure.
I find that in general, the threads are much cleaner and just work easier on the Zenesis. My Katana squeaks as I unscrew it which is unsettling for my dog who thinks it is a squirrel.
I find it much easier to unscrew the screws in the Zenesis. I have never understood why anything would use a conventional screw any longer. They are often hard to keep the screwdriver in place. On the Katana, the screw hole has a screw which is so small that it sometimes takes about 10 min to get it back in. I tried to get a magnetic screwdriver, but that did not work. I tried to magnetize the screw, that did not work. I finally just left it out. The positive and negative screws have the same ones and I personally find them harder to work than the ones on the Zenesis. The fact that one size screwdriver may be a advantage here, but as I said I personally do not know why anyone would use a conventional screw, when to me there seem to be better options. Even a phillips head would have been easier.
The switch on the Katana has a spring. It is fine, but I much prefer the magnets on the Zenesis. I purchased ones specifically to put in the Katana, but have yet to do that. The magnets provide a much smoother push.
I find that the taste is better to me on the Zenesis. Why this is the case, I cannot explain. I made the wick on the Katana, and while I thought I did a fine job, this could have some effect. Also, the airhole in the cap is small. I know people are drilling them out, but I am somewhat afraid to do that. When I first began using the Zenesis, it was a little airy for me. I now find that I prefer it. So much so, that I purchased adjustable drip tips, but do not use them.
The Zenesis fully comes apart and easily for cleaning. The Katana is cleaned by emptying the tank, and filling a syringe with water and flushing it out. Personally, I like to clean it out completely. I also like that no water is left in after I clean it.
I can understand why compared to other genesis devices, many would love the Katana. It is a nice device with some cool and even useful features. Mine is sitting cleaned currently in my box of toys and has been replaced currently by my Zenesi.
One thing to note is the entire package of what you receive from Zen. Wicks already made, coil, tools, case etc. You receive a entire package all ready with everything. Nothing to buy. Once again, some might like to futz. I know I do. I bought mesh and a blowtorch and will still continue to make my own stuff but just because I want to, not because I have to.
I love the fact that the person making them is here in the USA and that if necessary, I can just ship it off to him to fix. I was fortunate to have this in someone else, but I am sure our friend Lorderos does not want to do this full time.
It is not that everything I buy is USA made, but if I can, I prefer to.summary.
The Zenesis is easier to clean and use. It is much more solid and of course heavier, but for me, it just seems to be put together tighter. I like the cleaning method. I like that it is made in the USA. I like the switch. I like the fuzed quartz tanks. I like the draw. I like the fact that I could clobber any mugger (with the device itself
) that tried to take it from me. As I mentioned the Katana has a couple of features that might be appealing to some. The main one for me is the screw cap because of the way I carry. That being said, I have ended up with a pocket full of juice from that device tipping in the wrong way.
I just prefer the Zenesis because of the many reasons I listed.
I guess the most telling thing might be this. I am going out of town this weekend, and strongly considered taking the Katana instead of any of my Zenesis devices. Not because I preferred it or because of the convertible factor, but honestly because if it was confiscated at the airport, I would not be as upset as if they took my Zenesis devices. This is not meant to be a bashing of that device. It is just how I feel.
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Working till 11:30 tonight, guess I got no shot at winning Stealfdog's awesome holster on Cigar Babes show tonight, hope you all have fun on there....maybe the winner could show some zenfidel love and send it to Ripple instead, since he can't play and never wins anything! Hook him up zenfidels, that love you send out would be bound to come back to you at some point!! We are in the "Den of Zen" after all
hahaha, great!!!! only issue is that have NO Zenesis yet, so reading this thread is meditative !!!
Muhahahahahahaha....it's all part of the master plan - the Great Cycle of Zen~
You see, first, you ask questions.
Then, you get directed to the FAQ.
Then, you ask more questions.
Then, you get directed to read this or that post.
Then, you get tired of asking questions and waiting for responses so you decide to just read the whole damn thread.
Then, you see someone else ask a question.
Then, you direct them to the FAQ....
You see? You pass it on to the next newbie as it was passed on to you.
Now, young Initiate, you might understand this Koan of Zen~:
The Wrong Question
A novice Zenfidel was running about in a state of great agitation with his brand new Zenesis in his hands when he spied a Zen~ master strolling down one of the paths in the Sanctuary. The novice sprinted after him, breathlessly shouting, "Master! Master help me please!".
The Zen~ master turned to regard the disheveled novice. With a trace of amusement in his voice he asked, "What is the problem, young Initiate?"
The novice said. "O master, I am in need of wisdom for I have received my Zenesis but I am confused. What size of mesh should I roll for the wick? How many Ohms does this setup have? How many watts and volts must I apply?"
The Zen~ master looked kindly upon the novice and smiled. "Why do you seek these answers, young Initiate?"
The novice looked affronted. "Why...to achieve vaping enlightenment, of course!", he retorted.
The Zen~ master's smile widened slightly. "Then you ask the wrong questions", he replied.
The novice replied indignantly, "What do you mean? I have asked for everything I need to calculate the parameters of The Perfect Vape!"
"No", replied the master sadly. "You ask the same questions and seek the same answers that have blinded you and produced unsatisfying vapes for so long. How can one who asks the wrong question receive the correct answer?" The master sighed and looked the novice squarely in the eye, "Only when you let go of ohms, volts, watts, and calculations will understand that the answer is the vape itself."
"What? The wrong question? 'The vape itself'?" the Zenfidel sputtered, "I do not understand, O master."
The master smiled again. "No, not yet. But you shall. Now; vape your Zenesis. Does it not taste wonderful? Does it not create prodigious vapor?"
The novice nodded thoughtfully as he exhaled a cloud of vapor, "Yes, master; indeed it does."
As the Zen~ master turned and continued his walk, he called over his shoulder, "Then you have had the answer all along. Now you can begin to wrap the coils of your mind around that truth."
- Tim
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I wanted to post a comparison of the Katana and the Zenesis.
I have had many ask (in PM) because I have both devices. I am now prepared to do a side by side as I have had both long enough to do that. Mind you, I am not one to bash others devices. I am not one to bash in general. I feel that badmouthing others in general makes you look like an .... I just want to give a honest comparison and my thoughts. Mind you, these are my first devices of this kind and what I will say will come from the point of view of a someone who had never owned a genesis device before owning these.
I received my katana first. I immediately turned a screw inside too hard and broke it. This happened mind you before I even used it ONCE. I had done this because the screw seemed to be uneven. The good news is that my mistake helped at least a couple of other people I know not break theirs by doing the same thing.
I sent it to my friend Lorderos and he promptly fixed it for me. He is a amazing person and a great resource. He is very fond of those devices and respectful of the maker. I am going to try to do the same while comparing the two. I am going to give the same respect to Zen.
Here are my thoughts and things that I have noticed so far.
The Katana for whatever reason, seems to be more "photogenic" There are more curves and angles and perhaps this is why. I can tell you that in person, the Zenesis is very beautiful as well. Most that own them by now would probably agree that it is definitely more impressive in person than in the pictures. Maybe it is because of the solid construction and maybe the weight.
The Katana is lighter. I would not go as far to say it feels flimsy, but the Zenesis feels more substantial in your hands. Part of it is the weight, and partly because it just feels more solid.
There are features that many find appealing about the Katana that I would like to discuss. There is the ability to convert it from a 18650 device to a smaller 18350 device. This was a very appealing feature. A convertible of sorts. While this was super appealing, I have found that I do not use it in both modes in the same period of time. I normally leave one tube at home and then just leave it in the way that I set it up when I took it. In the end this which I found so appealing, really did not end up being a huge advantage for me. Now that I am fortunate enough to own both a mini and a standard, this feature and they way I use them has become a moot issue.
The tank screw on cover is another feature that many like for its "cool" factor. Once again, I was excited about this, but realized that the tank is plastic and that it would not break and in the end it sometimes is not really necessary as I have to unscrew it to see how much juice is in there. I guess it is possible that the cover might protect the tank in the case of a serious mishap, but once again being plastic I would be surprised. I have extra plastic to make tanks as well. I have to admit it does look good though.
The screw on tank is probably the main feature that most love. I get this. Having broken a number of coils in my pocket when the cap comes off, I can see why this feature might be appealing. That being said, from what I understand the adjustable throat hit is not a possibility with this type of cap and Zen has chosen to take that route. I can understand why. Although, I do not use this feature often, I know many do. I do love just being able to pop the top off at will as it is much quicker.
The Katana has a lock ring that is a nice feature. I will not say it is any better or easier than just unscrewing the Zenesis, but I do know when it is fully locked. With the Zenesis, I probably unscrew it farther than it has to go just to make sure.
I find that in general, the threads are much cleaner and just work easier on the Zenesis. My Katana squeaks as I unscrew it which is unsettling for my dog who thinks it is a squirrel.
I find it much easier to unscrew the screws in the Zenesis. I have never understood why anything would use a conventional screw any longer. They are often hard to keep the screwdriver in place. On the Katana, the screw hole has a screw which is so small that it sometimes takes about 10 min to get it back in. I tried to get a magnetic screwdriver, but that did not work. I tried to magnetize the screw, that did not work. I finally just left it out. The positive and negative screws have the same ones and I personally find them harder to work than the ones on the Zenesis. The fact that one size screwdriver may be a advantage here, but as I said I personally do not know why anyone would use a conventional screw, when to me there seem to be better options. Even a phillips head would have been easier.
The switch on the Katana has a spring. It is fine, but I much prefer the magnets on the Zenesis. I purchased ones specifically to put in the Katana, but have yet to do that. The magnets provide a much smoother push.
I find that the taste is better to me on the Zenesis. Why this is the case, I cannot explain. I made the wick on the Katana, and while I thought I did a fine job, this could have some effect. Also, the airhole in the cap is small. I know people are drilling them out, but I am somewhat afraid to do that. When I first began using the Zenesis, it was a little airy for me. I now find that I prefer it. So much so, that I purchased adjustable drip tips, but do not use them.
The Zenesis fully comes apart and easily for cleaning. The Katana is cleaned by emptying the tank, and filling a syringe with water and flushing it out. Personally, I like to clean it out completely. I also like that no water is left in after I clean it.
I can understand why compared to other genesis devices, many would love the Katana. It is a nice device with some cool and even useful features. Mine is sitting cleaned currently in my box of toys and has been replaced currently by my Zenesi.
One thing to note is the entire package of what you receive from Zen. Wicks already made, coil, tools, case etc. You receive a entire package all ready with everything. Nothing to buy. Once again, some might like to futz. I know I do. I bought mesh and a blowtorch and will still continue to make my own stuff but just because I want to, not because I have to.
I love the fact that the person making them is here in the USA and that if necessary, I can just ship it off to him to fix. I was fortunate to have this in someone else, but I am sure our friend Lorderos does not want to do this full time.
summary.
The Zenesis is easier to clean and use. It is much more solid and of course heavier, but for me, it just seems to be put together tighter. I like the cleaning method. I like that it is made in the USA. I like the switch. I like the fuzed quartz tanks. I like the draw. I like the fact that I could clobber any mugger that tried to take it from me.
As I mentioned the Katana has a couple of features that might be appealing to some. The main one for me is the screw cap because of the way I carry. That being said, I have ended up with a pocket full of juice from that device tipping in the wrong way.
I just prefer the Zenesis because of the many reasons I listed.
I guess the most telling thing might be this. I am going out of town this weekend, and strongly considered taking the Katana instead of any of my Zenesis devices. Not because I preferred it or because of the convertible factor, but honestly because if it was confiscated at the airport, I would not be as upset as if they took my Zenesis devices. This is not meant to be a bashing of that device. It is just how I feel.
Great review/comparison, ob!
I was serving a 3 day suspension from ecf at the time I logged into HOH and seen the 5 bam's available for pre order. Looked amazing, and the price was awesome. I had to give myself the TV talk. If I dont go for the big one then I will regret it later, and have to buy another one. Just cant afford to do that at the moment. Aww as I puff on a Arry tank with a carto thats getting restricted with every puff... I need off this train. Zen express all aboard.
I wanted to post a comparison of the Katana and the Zenesis.
I have had many ask (in PM) because I have both devices. I am now prepared to do a side by side as I have had both long enough to do that. Mind you, I am not one to bash others devices. I am not one to bash in general. I feel that badmouthing others in general makes you look like an .... I just want to give a honest comparison and my thoughts. Mind you, these are my first devices of this kind and what I will say will come from the point of view of a someone who had never owned a genesis device before owning these.
I received my katana first. I immediately turned a screw inside too hard and broke it. This happened mind you before I even used it ONCE. I had done this because the screw seemed to be uneven. The good news is that my mistake helped at least a couple of other people I know not break theirs by doing the same thing.
I sent it to my friend Lorderos and he promptly fixed it for me. He is a amazing person and a great resource. He is very fond of those devices and respectful of the maker. I am going to try to do the same while comparing the two. I am going to give the same respect to Zen.
Here are my thoughts and things that I have noticed so far.
The Katana for whatever reason, seems to be more "photogenic" There are more curves and angles and perhaps this is why. I can tell you that in person, the Zenesis is very beautiful as well. Most that own them by now would probably agree that it is definitely more impressive in person than in the pictures. Maybe it is because of the solid construction and maybe the weight.
The Katana is lighter. I would not go as far to say it feels flimsy, but the Zenesis feels more substantial in your hands. Part of it is the weight, and partly because it just feels more solid.
There are features that many find appealing about the Katana that I would like to discuss. There is the ability to convert it from a 18650 device to a smaller 18350 device. This was a very appealing feature. A convertible of sorts. While this was super appealing, I have found that I do not use it in both modes in the same period of time. I normally leave one tube at home and then just leave it in the way that I set it up when I took it. In the end this which I found so appealing, really did not end up being a huge advantage for me. Now that I am fortunate enough to own both a mini and a standard, this feature and they way I use them has become a moot issue.
The tank screw on cover is another feature that many like for its "cool" factor. Once again, I was excited about this, but realized that the tank is plastic and that it would not break and in the end it sometimes is not really necessary as I have to unscrew it to see how much juice is in there. I guess it is possible that the cover might protect the tank in the case of a serious mishap, but once again being plastic I would be surprised. I have extra plastic to make tanks as well. I have to admit it does look good though.
The screw on tank is probably the main feature that most love. I get this. Having broken a number of coils in my pocket when the cap comes off, I can see why this feature might be appealing. That being said, from what I understand the adjustable throat hit is not a possibility with this type of cap and Zen has chosen to take that route. I can understand why. Although, I do not use this feature often, I know many do. I do love just being able to pop the top off at will as it is much quicker.
The Katana has a lock ring that is a nice feature. I will not say it is any better or easier than just unscrewing the Zenesis, but I do know when it is fully locked. With the Zenesis, I probably unscrew it farther than it has to go just to make sure.
I find that in general, the threads are much cleaner and just work easier on the Zenesis. My Katana squeaks as I unscrew it which is unsettling for my dog who thinks it is a squirrel.
I find it much easier to unscrew the screws in the Zenesis. I have never understood why anything would use a conventional screw any longer. They are often hard to keep the screwdriver in place. On the Katana, the screw hole has a screw which is so small that it sometimes takes about 10 min to get it back in. I tried to get a magnetic screwdriver, but that did not work. I tried to magnetize the screw, that did not work. I finally just left it out. The positive and negative screws have the same ones and I personally find them harder to work than the ones on the Zenesis. The fact that one size screwdriver may be a advantage here, but as I said I personally do not know why anyone would use a conventional screw, when to me there seem to be better options. Even a phillips head would have been easier.
The switch on the Katana has a spring. It is fine, but I much prefer the magnets on the Zenesis. I purchased ones specifically to put in the Katana, but have yet to do that. The magnets provide a much smoother push.
I find that the taste is better to me on the Zenesis. Why this is the case, I cannot explain. I made the wick on the Katana, and while I thought I did a fine job, this could have some effect. Also, the airhole in the cap is small. I know people are drilling them out, but I am somewhat afraid to do that. When I first began using the Zenesis, it was a little airy for me. I now find that I prefer it. So much so, that I purchased adjustable drip tips, but do not use them.
The Zenesis fully comes apart and easily for cleaning. The Katana is cleaned by emptying the tank, and filling a syringe with water and flushing it out. Personally, I like to clean it out completely. I also like that no water is left in after I clean it.
I can understand why compared to other genesis devices, many would love the Katana. It is a nice device with some cool and even useful features. Mine is sitting cleaned currently in my box of toys and has been replaced currently by my Zenesi.
One thing to note is the entire package of what you receive from Zen. Wicks already made, coil, tools, case etc. You receive a entire package all ready with everything. Nothing to buy. Once again, some might like to futz. I know I do. I bought mesh and a blowtorch and will still continue to make my own stuff but just because I want to, not because I have to.
I love the fact that the person making them is here in the USA and that if necessary, I can just ship it off to him to fix. I was fortunate to have this in someone else, but I am sure our friend Lorderos does not want to do this full time.
summary.
The Zenesis is easier to clean and use. It is much more solid and of course heavier, but for me, it just seems to be put together tighter. I like the cleaning method. I like that it is made in the USA. I like the switch. I like the fuzed quartz tanks. I like the draw. I like the fact that I could clobber any mugger (with the device itself
As I mentioned the Katana has a couple of features that might be appealing to some. The main one for me is the screw cap because of the way I carry. That being said, I have ended up with a pocket full of juice from that device tipping in the wrong way.
I just prefer the Zenesis because of the many reasons I listed.
I guess the most telling thing might be this. I am going out of town this weekend, and strongly considered taking the Katana instead of any of my Zenesis devices. Not because I preferred it or because of the convertible factor, but honestly because if it was confiscated at the airport, I would not be as upset as if they took my Zenesis devices. This is not meant to be a bashing of that device. It is just how I feel.
Great write up!
questions:
Can they really confiscate a device at the airport? I took my EVO (before returning it) through the airport and although they stopped me and had me explain the device, they did not threaten to confiscate. I hope it's the same with a zenesis as I travel often.
If you tip the genesis upside down, does it leak?
thanks guys. It is obvious what my views are. I wanted to be respectful and fair and was trying to be sensitive to people and how strongly they feel about their devices.
I had so many people ask I just thought it would be nice if I put my thoughts down.
I had so many people ask I just thought it would be nice if I put my thoughts down.
Yes, it will leak out of the fill hole if you tip it upside down.
not sure. I DO know that last time I took it, I got harassed about it. I am sure it is probably fine, it just makes me nervous. They had never seen anything like it.
I hope I get my shipping conformation today.I want to vape my Zen standard Soooooooooooooooooo bad,Hope everyone is having an awesome day.It is blowing around 18 knots hear today so I am on land.
We are having a perfect Spring day! 60s, sunny and calm. Gorgeous day.
I thought you had your Zenesis already?
18 knots... That's when we would put our big boy boots on lol...we wouldn't stay tied up for anything under 30...25 with gusts 35 time to make money lol...I miss the sea
Hey zen I just noticed something I'm a Lil concerned about on my standard, don't want to post here cause there might be something simple that can be done to remedy, so I don't wanna cause mass worrying, shoot me a pm so I can respond with issue, I don't want to just send you one and get it lost in the shuffle...I get out of work 11:30 ish, I'll try and check in from there but will def be on late night
Yes it is, time to take the dog for a walk and blow off work for another half hour.....
Great cpmparison, ob, there isn't anything that I would add that you haven't already said.
great. start the mass worrying
No really guys it's nothing to be concerned with yet, just need to let zen know and see what he says
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