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I truly hate to disappoint you ladies & gents but I stayed lazing in the pond too long
... end up, got a burnt ...., a dozen wasp stings plus mosquitoes and several nasty horsefly bites {oy!} and a dog bite in the knee breaking up a fight yesterday and I'm feverish today.
I just let Elixir know.
If I could do this without whining or getting you sick from watching me get sick I'd go on.
I'm so sorry!
C.B.
CB hope you feel better soon and your bug bumps go away fast.
Hey Queen, Ash, Phunk and CB
Think I figured out the vector issue...
Hi mate and nice one
That is 100% true antism.. But as always ,everything has their loopholes.
Interesting loopholes... Like calling an APV something like a Zen Temple Incense Vaporizor? I hope people realize that asking a vendor to lie about value on customs forms or obfuscate what's in the package is a criminal offense. So yeah, you can get what you want as long as I'm willing to risk criminal prosecution so you can have it... Sounds like a one sided deal, no?
Lol... Picky picky picky!
Ahhhhh..... Dontcha just love the smell of beauraucracy in the morning.
That's the smell of freedom!
This one?
Don't put that image on any PV except The Dragon when it comes out, please.
Hey Queen, Ash, Phunk and CB
Think I figured out the vector issue...
Nice... Now edit your post and take that down, please.
Ugh... I hear ya... I'm off to a meeting at some five sided building near here.
Zen~, being a Government employee myself, I know how informative and interesting meetings can be I like the meetings that are essentially an overview of how and when to have another meeting to more fully plan more meetings. That doesn't take a bite out of my day at all! Enjoy.
I like the meetings that are essentially an overview of how and when to have another meeting to more fully plan more meetings. That doesn't take a bite out of my day at all! Enjoy.I've also had a positive experience with WTA. I've found it to be really helpful in maintaining what I call a "normal" mood. Depression has been a big issue for me since I quit smoking analogs 13 months ago. If I run out of WTA (it's the only nicquid I buy "commercially"), I'll use Swedish snus.
So... I was thinking a lot about this last night while mowing the lawn... And feel free to skip these ramblings, but I drew what I think is a nice little parallel. I understand some people get frustrated and have expectations of service levels, etc... (which may or may not be realistic) which get applied equally to all vendors in the vaping community... Why do this when we don't really do the same with other experiences?
I've decided to relate the various business models in the vaping world to dining experiences, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.
There are plenty of McDonalds vendors out there. You may not be getting the best, but you know that its going to be inexpensive and readily available. Generally speaking, no lines no waiting, though you may regret the purchase later...
I feel the same way sometimes about cartos and various vendors they are readily available from as I do about fast food. They still have their place sometimes, but overall.... Certainly not my preference.
Then we have our chain restaurants, what do you get there? Pretty good service, but typically most importantly consistency and a higher quality product. I'm not bashing them at all, because I do love mine, but for the sake of an example, I'll use ProVari. Great, consistent, reliable product, and generally speaking minimal wait these days.
Where do we go from there...? Small top quality restaurants.. The best meals you'll ever get, but the process in many is different... Do you just walk in without reservations? Do you make certain sacrifices sometimes to eat there? Does the meal take longer to be served because kitchens are smaller and everything is prepared fresh with the best ingredients? Yes, and we expect those things... We should expect the same out of seeking a Zen~ device, GG, etc... The rules may be different, but it'll be bar-non the best product available... And we need to remember there's only one cook in this kitchen...
Sorry to ramble, but it just felt like a good example...
I've decided to relate the various business models in the vaping world to dining experiences, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.
There are plenty of McDonalds vendors out there. You may not be getting the best, but you know that its going to be inexpensive and readily available. Generally speaking, no lines no waiting, though you may regret the purchase later...
I feel the same way sometimes about cartos and various vendors they are readily available from as I do about fast food. They still have their place sometimes, but overall.... Certainly not my preference.
Then we have our chain restaurants, what do you get there? Pretty good service, but typically most importantly consistency and a higher quality product. I'm not bashing them at all, because I do love mine, but for the sake of an example, I'll use ProVari. Great, consistent, reliable product, and generally speaking minimal wait these days.
Where do we go from there...? Small top quality restaurants.. The best meals you'll ever get, but the process in many is different... Do you just walk in without reservations? Do you make certain sacrifices sometimes to eat there? Does the meal take longer to be served because kitchens are smaller and everything is prepared fresh with the best ingredients? Yes, and we expect those things... We should expect the same out of seeking a Zen~ device, GG, etc... The rules may be different, but it'll be bar-non the best product available... And we need to remember there's only one cook in this kitchen...
Sorry to ramble, but it just felt like a good example...
True! It has given me the hiccups on more than one occasion! I've never had that happen while smoking or vaping...
So... I was thinking a lot about this last night while mowing the lawn... And feel free to skip these ramblings, but I drew what I think is a nice little parallel. I understand some people get frustrated and have expectations of service levels, etc... (which may or may not be realistic) which get applied equally to all vendors in the vaping community... Why do this when we don't really do the same with other experiences?
I've decided to relate the various business models in the vaping world to dining experiences, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.
There are plenty of McDonalds vendors out there. You may not be getting the best, but you know that its going to be inexpensive and readily available. Generally speaking, no lines no waiting, though you may regret the purchase later...
I feel the same way sometimes about cartos and various vendors they are readily available from as I do about fast food. They still have their place sometimes, but overall.... Certainly not my preference.
Then we have our chain restaurants, what do you get there? Pretty good service, but typically most importantly consistency and a higher quality product. I'm not bashing them at all, because I do love mine, but for the sake of an example, I'll use ProVari. Great, consistent, reliable product, and generally speaking minimal wait these days.
Where do we go from there...? Small top quality restaurants.. The best meals you'll ever get, but the process in many is different... Do you just walk in without reservations? Do you make certain sacrifices sometimes to eat there? Does the meal take longer to be served because kitchens are smaller and everything is prepared fresh with the best ingredients? Yes, and we expect those things... We should expect the same out of seeking a Zen~ device, GG, etc... The rules may be different, but it'll be bar-non the best product available... And we need to remember there's only one cook in this kitchen...
Sorry to ramble, but it just felt like a good example...
I think it has more to do with dollars and cents then anything else. As the price goes up, expectations of quality, performance and service also increases. Of course, there are always going to be those people who expect the moon whether they're spending $5 or $500 just because they're "gracing" you with their patronage. Some people are just impossible to please.
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Understood and agreed, but I guess my point is, I've had some very pricey meals from some amazing family run restaurants, but most of the exceptional ones, I can't just walk in to without a wait. I don't get the fastest service. But I DO get an amazing meal. They cost a heck of a lot more than fast food or even good chain restaurants, but I don't expect them to serve that meal anywhere near as fast as the other places... Quality takes time, and often patience.
When I purchased my motorcycle, I got a Ducati that I needed to literally wait for to ship on a boat from Italy... I could have walked out with a much less expensive (insert brand here) bike and ridden off the same day, but I would not have been as happy with it. I knew what I wanted and was wiling to wait.
It just feels like many are applying a different ruleset to vaping supplies / equipment than we apply to other things in everyday life.
I couldn't agree more with your last statement, I mean, there's always that...
When I purchased my motorcycle, I got a Ducati that I needed to literally wait for to ship on a boat from Italy... I could have walked out with a much less expensive (insert brand here) bike and ridden off the same day, but I would not have been as happy with it. I knew what I wanted and was wiling to wait.
It just feels like many are applying a different ruleset to vaping supplies / equipment than we apply to other things in everyday life.
I couldn't agree more with your last statement, I mean, there's always that...
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I think you hit the nail on the head. This is what I was TRYING to say...in a much less eloquent message yesterday. I special ordered my new car. Now, it isn't a Ferrari or anything, but I wanted certain features in a combination that wasn't available right off the lot. It took a couple of months. I really didn't think about it again after it had been ordered. I knew they would let me know when it was here...and they did. I had really almost forgotten about it!! LOL.
The point being, I had to wait to get exactly what I wanted. I was not willing to "settle" for what they had in order to get it sooner.
am doing good thanks finaly weekend for me and next week or if it's not so lets say more 9 days and I will get my Prov2 , am just waiting now to see what will happen with ASH
So how's every thing with you ?
am doing good thanks finaly weekend for me and next week or if it's not so lets say more 9 days and I will get my Prov2 , am just waiting now to see what will happen with ASH
So how's every thing with you ?
I'm good, thanks for asking
I know you are anxious for your ASH, I am too. I think it's good for me to have to wait because I'm picking up so many good tips that I'll be ready for it when it arrives!!- Status
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