It is a little bit quiet in here this evening. I think I will head for the bath and bed early tonight. Seems to me that most of you have done the same. Sweet Dreams everyone, and I hope you all wake rested and refreshed!!!
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Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
I guess I should stay up for about 1/2 hour more, otherwise the room mate will flush on me while I am finishing up in the shower. I hate getting my ... burned in the shower!!!!! He goes to bed at 10pm. I am safe after that. 
You need the insulator. It keeps it from shorting, which is why your coil is popping.
Electrical current has it's rules that we must follow?
Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
Zen~ recommends his devices be used with an insulator. You have a serious short when not using it and that is why the coils are popping. If the wick is too large to fit into the insulator then you need to roll it between your fingers and thumbs to make it a little thinner.
Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
Your coil is popping because you have a short somewhere. I would suggest using the Zenesis with the insulator it came with. It is there for a reason AND Zen~ highly recommends using it.
One question for you why did you re-wrap the coil?
One question for you why did you re-wrap the coil?
Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
Also the coil will not glow properly enough to check for shorts if you have juice in the tank and the wick is wet.
Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
Question for anyone around I re-wrapped my zen coil and ended up trying it without the insulator but every coil I wrap pops? Or it only gets bright up at the top next to the positive post. I tried several wicks and I did 5 wraps. I also got the katana today and don't seem to be having the same problem with it?
Also if the coil did not pop on the zen, it did not get red
but still smoked no matter how long I held the fire button down for!!
I am confused lol!!!I have heard people using it without the insulator..
buT with it my wicks where to small.. or to large and would kink when I tried to put them in.
The insulator is there for a reason. It should be left in and there is very little good reason for someone who doesn't fully understand how the system works to be removing it. Your coils pop because they are shorting through the wick. The power going through them due to lack of resistance is overloading the wire (and your battery btw). You notice that the top wire glows only. Current flows from the positive post to the wire, it hits your shorted wick and grounds directly to the uninsulated body. You should be thankful that your coils are popping because the other option is SERIOUS damage to the battery!
You would not have this type of problem with a Katana because the entire bottom of the atomizing chamber is made of PTFE...the same material as the insulator in the Zenesis.
If you roll a proper wick, it will work just fine. With the wicks Zen sends, I unroll it slightly, rip a few mm off lengthwise and then reroll them to the proper size.
If these things used a lot higher amperage, there would be a lot less issues & natural selection would deal with those.. 
There are times when it's great to be me... other times... not so much.
Yesterday was a double-edged sword in many ways.
I have great friends... friends who have my back... who look out for me and my well being. Some of these friends have become trusted advisers... so trusted that I don't question them when they share information with me that pobably should be questioned... but trust is just that... TRUST.
When three close friends came to me with identical information and excellent provenance... I did ask the source, and all of them politely declined to reveal the source. They are trustworthy, after all, and they promised the source that their identity would be a closely held secret.
I respect that about them.
So without anything more than the words of some of my closest confidants, I called out Grruss and as it turns out, the information was not factual. Once this happened, I was able to ascertain the identity of the person sharing the information with my friends, and I contacted the informant.
The informant shared the name of HIS informant, and I contacted that person.
His story was ever so slightly different than the version I was told. He wasn't actually SURE that Grruss was the person price gouging the attys...and HE was passing on information that HE heard... it wasn't direct knowledge... it was the unique brand of truth and fiction that fuels the drama in nearly every forum.
So as it turns out, I ended up making accusations about Grruss that were unfounded, and I believe, based on evidence that was pretty easy to ascertain. that Grruss was completely innocent.
In reality, I shot first and asked questions later.
Once I realized that I made an awful mistake, I apologized to Grruss in PM... And he accepted my apology which is proof that he's a better friend to me than I was to him.
I have no real excuse, and any attempt to defend my actions would only serve to add insult to injury.
I am truly sorry that I sullied the good name of a true friend of the Zen Nation, and I am further horrified that I lacked the common sense to ask a few questions before coming in with guns blazing.
I DO know the source of the attys that were price gouged, and I will deal with that person in private. I don't know what the outcome will be.
Long winded? absolutely... so here's the short version
I screwed up... and I'm sorry to the folks that had to witness it, but especially to Gruss that had his integrity questioned.
Please accept my apology.
Yesterday was a double-edged sword in many ways.
I have great friends... friends who have my back... who look out for me and my well being. Some of these friends have become trusted advisers... so trusted that I don't question them when they share information with me that pobably should be questioned... but trust is just that... TRUST.
When three close friends came to me with identical information and excellent provenance... I did ask the source, and all of them politely declined to reveal the source. They are trustworthy, after all, and they promised the source that their identity would be a closely held secret.
I respect that about them.
So without anything more than the words of some of my closest confidants, I called out Grruss and as it turns out, the information was not factual. Once this happened, I was able to ascertain the identity of the person sharing the information with my friends, and I contacted the informant.
The informant shared the name of HIS informant, and I contacted that person.
His story was ever so slightly different than the version I was told. He wasn't actually SURE that Grruss was the person price gouging the attys...and HE was passing on information that HE heard... it wasn't direct knowledge... it was the unique brand of truth and fiction that fuels the drama in nearly every forum.
So as it turns out, I ended up making accusations about Grruss that were unfounded, and I believe, based on evidence that was pretty easy to ascertain. that Grruss was completely innocent.
In reality, I shot first and asked questions later.
Once I realized that I made an awful mistake, I apologized to Grruss in PM... And he accepted my apology which is proof that he's a better friend to me than I was to him.
I have no real excuse, and any attempt to defend my actions would only serve to add insult to injury.
I am truly sorry that I sullied the good name of a true friend of the Zen Nation, and I am further horrified that I lacked the common sense to ask a few questions before coming in with guns blazing.
I DO know the source of the attys that were price gouged, and I will deal with that person in private. I don't know what the outcome will be.
Long winded? absolutely... so here's the short version
I screwed up... and I'm sorry to the folks that had to witness it, but especially to Gruss that had his integrity questioned.
Please accept my apology.
Sorry I am not being the brightest bulb tonight.I just felt like tinkering thats why I re-wrapped and from watching videos some people did not use the insulator.
I got mine from the classy's. I am rolling my own wicks and i'm a newbie to zenesis so I felt like playing with it for awhile.
Yup, it's the current that will kill you... Highvoltage isn't as dangerous.... does not have electric shock
If these things used a lot higher amperage, there would be a lot less issues & natural selection would deal with those..
Well thought I'd check back in before I turn in for the night. Sweet Dreams
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