House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

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Murdock Ruml

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Honestly, reddit. I couldn't keep up over here, it was kinda killing me. I try to stop in from time to time still though. :) Good to see ya K-man!


Hey now, you got that review! :p Given, it was a month, or so, late but it made its way out.

Can't find it on YouTube anymore though.
 

Shaitaan

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man when the zap comes out im gonna buy 10 and resell it because with out some kind of forum regulation regarding pricing of member trades then items that are hard to get will end up like this.. i think it's utter bullsheet excuse my french

there are many forums where members are not allowed to profit on the items they sell in private sales..

we're not dealing rolex watches here.. :facepalm:

good luck with that.... I'm sure part of mike's contract with the new vendors is the same he had....only 2 per/ buyer
 

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Hi my name is K-man. I USED to be a classies ......

When I 1st started vaping and found ECF, I also found how easy it was to buy $80 Lines by Van and flip them for $200. And I did flip a few, as well as Orions, and Katana's that I bought hoping to use as trade bait for a Ti Mini. Then I found this thread, and between here and other threads, as well as the classies, I found myself becoming friends with people I had made a profit on. To me, that felt like the Standard up Ian's ..... Not comfortable at all. Sooner or later everyone's paths cross, and I don't ever again want to feel the guilt of having gouged someone. And that's why everything I sell now is at cost, and why I look within this thread 1st. I even buy what I don't need or want so that I can help others who do want or need. I've built a network of traders with the goal being to help everyone get what they want or need... at cost. That is my penance.

Almost everyone is a friend, even if we don't know it yet. We just have to stop viewing them as a commodity to be exploited long enough to see it. The more you open yourself to the world, the harder it becomes to maintain total self interest.

You took the red pill, K-Man. Welcome to the Matrix! It's not pretty at times, but it's real.
 

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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll just stick with the dry burns and watch Zen's coil buildig video a few more times before I attempt it :unsure:

I used to leave my coils for as long as they would last, but i found the flavor starts to go crap, so now i will change it every week or two and it's great, plus you get better at wrapping them.
 

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I'm wondering.....

Is there a definable difference between the 316 SS mesh and other mesh of 400x400 or 325x325 sizes? There sure is a price difference. I'm wondering if the supply I have is more prone to shorts or poor oxidization due to it's type/quality. The process of wick and coil making seems rather straight forward. Why some have issues and others don't is perplexing to me. If the SS mesh quality has an impact on the outcome this may solve part of the mystery.
 

stevo123

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I'm wondering.....

Is there a definable difference between the 316 SS mesh and other mesh of 400x400 or 325x325 sizes? There sure is a price difference. I'm wondering if the supply I have is more prone to shorts or poor oxidization due to it's type/quality. The process of wick and coil making seems rather straight forward. Why some have issues and others don't is perplexing to me. If the SS mesh quality has an impact on the outcome this may solve part of the mystery.
There is 316 ss mesh in them sizes and 304 ss mesh
Good evening stevo.

evening kevin how's it going
 

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304 is fine for what we use it for....i use 304 mesh never have any issues whatsoever...the only difference really comes to oxidization of said ss...which we do to it anyway. with how i oxidize my wick(frost method) i rarely if ever have shorting issues. the people that have issues are generally the ones that are over thinking everything!
 

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It is the way of the world. And I truly get it. I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. But it becomes a different story, for me anyways, when it's your friends that are buying.

I've never made a profit on a friend -- in fact, the ZAG I sold was for $130. :) I probably cost myself over a grand holding onto GGs I should have sold but this damned thread made me feel too guilty to sell them............8-o8-o8-o

To be honest, this has become sort of a whiny joke to me, all this spitting into the wind makes us look very narrow-mminded and territorial and needs to stop, it really is giving the APV a bad name among the forums in my opinion only...........
 
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