House of Hybrids featuring the Zenesis PV

[Ezkill]

Oxidation...I clean my threads and screw top every day, my rags are black....

What are you using to clean it? I can scrub the top of the screw with a q-tip soaked in 99% and it does nothing. The second I sand it...perfect again. It seems that somehow I'm getting an unreasonable amount of oxidization but I'm not sure how, or how to prevent it.

 

[Katz123]

Even though it may be vaping OK, it seems to me that if you have too much resistance (for example a short or bad connection) somewhere, it will cause an excess amount of carbon to build up on the screw every time. Have you also checked the positive and negative connections on your coil? You may need to wrap a new coil after re-oxidizing your wick. This is the best way for wrapping a coil. Worth a watch if you have not already seen it. It is Zen~ teaching us how to wrap a coil and work out the shorts.

What are you using to clean it? I can scrub the top of the screw with a q-tip soaked in 99% and it does nothing. The second I sand it...perfect again. It seems that somehow I'm getting an unreasonable amount of oxidization but I'm not sure how, or how to prevent it.

 

[ksmith]

in front of the coil is how Zen wants it

Thanks for the reply emonty.

 

[classwife]

I bought it! I actually told him I thought his offer was too low and ended up paying him 375. I couldn't be happier. I already got it too. So, there I was, sitting and holding my new ZAU, making an epic bowel movement. I had an issue of Better Homes and Gardens in one hand, my ZAU in the other. Then I sneezed. I sneezed like I never sneezed before. Triggering a colonic spasm which caused a projectile eruption through my dilapidated sphincter.

The shock wave rippled through my body and I tore the page right out of my magazine (which did happen to be a recipe for a delicious summer berry trifle that I intended to save anyhow) and my ZAU flew out of my hands. It rocketed towards the ventilation fan which was already struggling to evacuate the room of that malodorous abomination of sin I had deposited into the water filled receptacle.

But I digress, but do I? No I guess I don't. I jumped from my seated position in an attempt to catch this airborne atomizer of delight and it hit the blade of the fan which to no ones suprise, much less my own, did it rocket down, careening into my freshly shaved head, ricocheting off the floss droplet stained mirror and plunking itself squarely into my effuse.

At this point there was nothing left to do.....I donned an oven mit and retireved it post haste. So, now I will be putting it back in the classies tomorrow for $421.74, not a penny more, not a penny less, because now! NOW! It is truly one of a kind.

The End.

This story, along with your avi...it seems you have quite a bit of trouble hanging on to your PVs.

Might I suggest a lanyard ?




(sadly admitting that I am laughing my head off here)

 

[kcos]

I don't own a ZAU or a ZAP, I have the TI and had the Mini's. The TI's finish is immaculate. The finish on the Mini's I owned where also top notch.
The fact that the ZAP moves a little on the Provari is the design IMHO. I do agree though with him on the flavor with the stock setup.

I have no movement on mine ..it's on the mini provari I also have no gap .

 

[Vapor2112]

You're hunting down a side effect of the real problem...

You have a short someplace else, which enough juice from a perfectly charged and cleaned battery / connections is getting your past when you get it to fire right...

Have you changed the wick / coil since this problem started?

I'm telling you, I did the same once, and became amazingly frustrated, until I realized the switch was not the problem.

I've not cleaned my switch, contacts, or batteries in at least a month now, and I don't use nolax / no-ox-id, etc....

Well as a continuation of last night the problems continue so I'm still at a bit of a loss.

I know the fix and it fixes it to perfection every single time but there has to be something else going on here. I've never heard of anyone having to sand the bottom firing screw 2-3 times a day to keep it running. Every tank or so the mini starts to vape really poorly and second the bottom screw is sanded a bit with 400 per Zen's advice it fires absolutely perfectly...for another tank full anyway. My batteries are clean and fresh. Everything has been cleaned and re-cleaned. None of it helps except for sanding the bottom screw. That makes it completely night and day.

There has to be something else going on here that's causing the quick build up on the bottom screw. Anyone have any ideas?

They've all been cleaned and sanded and re-sanded. All my 18350 AW's are sparkly clean.

 

[Ezkill]

Even though it may be vaping OK, it seems to me that if you have too much resistance (for example a short or bad connection) somewhere, it will cause an excess amount of carbon to build up on the screw every time. Have you also checked the positive and negative connections on your coil? You may need to wrap a new coil after re-oxidizing your wick. I honestly found the only way to make a coil that works every time is to use a tiny piece of rolling paper on the wick and wrap a coil off the device and then insert it and burn off the paper. I am left with a perfect coil every time. I know there are you tube vids about this. My only bit of advice to add to the vids is to use the thinnest papers and only 2 layers of paper around the wick.

I'm not new to genesis devices, just new to this Zen mini. I'm not having any issues with coil wraps and my 4/5 wrap coil ohms at 1.7-1.8 ohms so I don't think it's a resistance issues. That's what the stock Zen ones that he sent with the ZAG's ohm out at as well.

No burned taste, no shorts, all glowing evenly. I'm familiar with the cigarette paper trick and have used it in the past. If I had a hot spot or top short that I couldn't get rid of I might go there but I'm just really not having coil issues.

 

[Ezkill]

You're hunting down a side effect of the real problem...

You have a short someplace else, which enough juice from a perfectly charged and cleaned battery / connections is getting your past when you get it to fire right...

Have you changed the wick / coil since this problem started?

I'm telling you, I did the same once, and became amazingly frustrated, until I realized the switch was not the problem.

I've not cleaned my switch, contacts, or batteries in at least a month now, and I don't use nolax / no-ox-id, etc....

I realize that...the excessive oxidization simply can't be normal. Yea I have changed it. Basically when the problem first started I figured it might be a coil issue somewhere. So I did up a new wick and coil and the problem just sort of continued at the same pace. 1 tank and it would start firing strangely.

I'll go do another coil and burn it in. Was going to pull the screws out of the top anyway and do some cleaning there. Good excuse to just redo a coil.

 

[Vapor2112]

Not trying to be argumentative by any means... I just know I had literally the same experience, and the solution wasn't in the switch for me...

Humor me.. Lets assume the coil and wick are perfect. Can you carefully remove both screws (should be able to do without disrupting the coil), clean them real well, and twist up some paper towels and run them in the screw holes to ensure they are dry. Screw the coil back down and see what happens?

Also, make sure that the bottom lead is not running across the base. Due to the spacing, I've had that be a problem before when I didn't set-up the coil just how the Zenesis seems to like them. This can be more of an issue on some genesis atty's than others...

I'm not new to genesis devices, just new to this Zen mini. I'm not having any issues with coil wraps and my 4/5 wrap coil ohms at 1.7-1.8 ohms so I don't think it's a resistance issues. That's what the stock Zen ones that he sent with the ZAG's ohm out at as well.

No burned taste, no shorts, all glowing evenly. I'm familiar with the cigarette paper trick and have used it in the past. If I had a hot spot or top short that I couldn't get rid of I might go there but I'm just really not having coil issues.

 

[ksmith]

I have no movement on mine ..it's on the mini provari I also have no gap .

Mine has no movement either. And the finish, well I'll just say, if it were any better I could use it as a mirror to trim my nose hairs. I just love everything about it!!!

 

[Ezkill]

Not trying to be argumentative by any means... I just know I had literally the same experience, and the solution wasn't in the switch for me...

Humor me.. Lets assume the coil and wick are perfect. Can you carefully remove both screws (should be able to do without disrupting the coil), clean them real well, and twist up some paper towels and run them in the screw holes to ensure they are dry. Screw the coil back down and see what happens?

Also, make sure that the bottom lead is not running across the base. Due to the spacing, I've had that be a problem before when I didn't set-up the coil just how the Zenesis seems to like them. This can be more of an issue on some genesis atty's than others...

I realize you're not trying to be argumentative at all. I really appreciate your help and advice since you've experienced the same issue.

I would have done this but I had already left to re-do the coil. Basically I cleaned everything out including the threads, put the coil side of the wick in the tank(just in case) and re-wrapped a coil. Burned it in with 100% VG much like zen does in his videos and it's firing nicely, it's even and the coil is working well. Filled the tank to 3/4 on a fresh battery and I'll see what happens.

I was starting to think this morning that I was chasing a symptom instead of the cause. Last night I hadn't quite gotten there yet as the sanding with 1200 grit worked for a while and then I was told to do 400 instead as 1200 would only polish the oxidization. I went and did this and everything was great again until this morning. At that point I realized I was probably fixing the symptom and not the cause.

 

[emonty]

I'm not new to genesis devices, just new to this Zen mini. I'm not having any issues with coil wraps and my 4/5 wrap coil ohms at 1.7-1.8 ohms so I don't think it's a resistance issues. That's what the stock Zen ones that he sent with the ZAG's ohm out at as well.

No burned taste, no shorts, all glowing evenly. I'm familiar with the cigarette paper trick and have used it in the past. If I had a hot spot or top short that I couldn't get rid of I might go there but I'm just really not having coil issues.

Is it possible for you to make a video of your coils glowing with a dry wick?

 

[Ezkill]

Is it possible for you to make a video of your coils glowing with a dry wick?

Yea, if this doesn't help I'll start a youtube account and put a video up.

This new coil in my opinion is good. Even glow. No hot spots. Lights up very fast and even on dry wick. The vape on a known juice is the exact same as on the ZAG which still has the stock coil that came with it. Same wick, same number of wraps, same type of AW batteries(18650 versus 18350) freshly charged. Same time to dry out a wet wick as the ZAG with stock wrap. Even nudged the bottom lead up a little like the ZAG's I have. Noticed the way the ZAG's were done that the lead coming off the bottom screw was poked up a bit instead of coming straight across to wick so I did the same. It was also just recommended so I did the same. Bottom wire doesn't glow until it hits the coil. Everything just looks good.

I'm not an expert or anything but to me it looks and tastes good for a new coil. I've probably done about 100 or so coils in total due to learning technique and making a lot of errors when I was just starting out. Kind of had a hard time with a different genesis atomizer a few months back but it's been pretty good since then.

 

[Chief Thunder]

So some peeps are testing what seems like the working mans zen, sounds like the zen master does listen when we speak

Can't wait to see what it is.


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[Mrephunk]

My shortbus question of the day.......... what is the working man's Zenesis?

《Sent from my handheld information procuring fruit ninja》

 

[yvilla]

So some peeps are testing what seems like the working mans zen, sounds like the zen master does listen when we speak

Chief, I'm pretty sure the Heresy is not the Working Man's Zen. That is also in development, however.

 

[*ASH*]

Hi there every one .
Another day with my ASH but I think there is loss with the Cap !! with the mini one am not facing this problem so any Advice

 

[Landlord]

yall was talkative last night. im still catching up.. Im at 2am right now.. lol be back soon..

 

[Katz123]

Are you telling us you Lost the Cap for your Ash??? OMG Where did you loose it? I think you can use the top from the mini on it for now, but you will have to buy another one if you can't find it. They are available from House of Hybrids.

Hi there every one .
Another day with my ASH but I think there is loss with the Cap !! with the mini one am not facing this problem so any Advice

 

[yvilla]

Hi there every one .
Another day with my ASH but I think there is loss with the Cap !! with the mini one am not facing this problem so any Advice

Don't understand what you mean by this ASH - or I would have tried to answer earlier (I've been waiting to see if someone else might pop up to address your post).

Could you try to clarify/re-state what the problem is?