How an Ebola outbreak in US could protect vaping and benefit public health

[Uma]

IV needles are Surgical Steel, Silver Nitrate is no longer recommended for eye drops for newborns, Silver is a MILD antibacterial when applied to open wounds. Silver is about as effective against Ebola as DR. Pepper! The African Continent is loaded with herbal medicine cures,last time I looked they are dying like flies over there. 4000 dead, 8000 known infected( that's only in major urban areas). They have not yet been able to get to the remote parts of the continent. The last thing I heard was that the CDC used SEVERAL experimental treatments on the man in Houston. He's dead! Do you want to trust another Government funded,regulatory agency that can't even tell you all the known ways Ebola can be transmitted? Heard of Biting insects? The CDC left 50gal drum of Ebola Contaminated waste sitting for 3 days behind the Houston Hospital. You still want to trust this Administration and it's flunkies to do whats best for you and your family?

No, I don't trust them one bit.
Dr. Rima sent over 3000 bootles of Nano Silver to Sierra Leon or Liberia, & they were sent back unopened. She tried again. Again, the same happened.
It is antibiotic, it is free, & there's no way it replaces what other wonderful tricks the health care has up their sleeves. But, in the meantime, if it could help at all, it should be allowed to try.
Thank you for the lecture though. It was interesting.

 

[northhar]

for what it's worth. I decided today to send this to my government.

A copy of the letter I sent..

The Honourable Rona Ambrose,
The Right Honourable Stephen Harper

I am deeply disappointed with our health officials lack of concern with the exploding Ebola Crisis.

I have been following the electronic cigarette debate and what concerned me most has been the contorted and constructed conclusions our Health official and the US health officials have been printing and reporting on that subject.

I have come to the conclusion that our Health Officials are so use to this kind of behaviour, that they apply it to all subjects.

It is evident that not only our health officials but also the US health officials are too busy trying to save their Behavioural Experiment targeting Smokers against the onslaught of electronic cigarettes, to take the time to properly access the dangers of the exploding Ebola Crisis.

The fact that the CDC has not only let the Ebola virus take hold in the US, but continues to learn that even full protective gear may not guarantee a person is safe from this virus.

I can only beg you and the Prime Minister to force our health officials to shutdown all their hobby horse endeavours, such as their war on electronic cigarettes and concentrate on the exploding Ebola Crisis.

When these officials go to press to assure the public, I do not hear of concrete action, just lame excuses.
We need concrete action, quarantines, travel bans, public education on this virus.

I really feel my nation is at great risk and our Health Officials are not properly reacting.

Please step forward and make sure our Health Officials are handling this properly.

Thank You for reading

All this is stuff that I felt the need to say to our officials.

 

[Uma]

This 2010 study seems to refute the body fluids only transmission of similar virus', they found it will live for a while on glass and plastic but stainless steel seems to kill it. With what I've learned on ECF about the CDC/FDA it makes me wonder what else they are not telling us.

Found it on another blog.

The survival of filoviruses in liquids, on solid substrates and in a dynamic aerosol - Piercy - 2010 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library

Excellent find! This backs up the collidial or nano silver thoughts as well. The germs collect on the silver, die, and then are cleansed from the body with lots and lots of water. Drink lots of good clean water. Always have refrigerated pre-boiled water in the fridge.
Nano silver is stronger against Ebola than collidial silver is, they say. Good luck finding it though.

 

[Kent C]

With what I've learned on ECF about the CDC/FDA it makes me wonder what else they are not telling us.

What I've learned on ECF has only confirmed what I knew about the FDA and CDC before coming here

"Both Homeland Security Secretary Secretary Jeh Johnson and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said on Wednesday that 150 people a day arrive in the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, the three West African countries that have been hit by the Ebola virus.

"When somebody travels from one of those three West African countries, even through a transit point (in Europe), we know where they're coming from. So we're able to track this. And we know that on average it's about 150 passengers a day," Johnson told CNN's Wolf Blitzer."

An agency that seems to know the purpose of quarantine and how that works and is truly intent on stopping the spread of this disease in our country simply wouldn't allow this to happen. The law of probability comes into play when it can take up to 21 days to exhibit symptoms and 4500 people a month arrive here.

 

[Nermal]

Good information, Nana.

 

[Uma]

I'll wear a mask, not eat or drink anything on the plane or airports and take a bleach shower upon arrival at the Bohemian country house...
They are having a contest at work to win a free ride on a company jet anywhere...

Full protection garb didn't help that nurse. Plastic, glass, paper... got a suit in shining armor?

 

[sonicdsl]

What I've learned on ECF has only confirmed what I knew about the FDA and CDC before coming here

"Both Homeland Security Secretary Secretary Jeh Johnson and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said on Wednesday that 150 people a day arrive in the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, the three West African countries that have been hit by the Ebola virus.

"When somebody travels from one of those three West African countries, even through a transit point (in Europe), we know where they're coming from. So we're able to track this. And we know that on average it's about 150 passengers a day," Johnson told CNN's Wolf Blitzer."

An agency that seems to know the purpose of quarantine and how that works and is truly intent on stopping the spread of this disease in our country simply wouldn't allow this to happen. The law of probability comes into play when it can take up to 21 days to exhibit symptoms and 4500 people a month arrive here.

Yeah, so why aren't they forcing a mandatory quarantine of 21 days to all 150/day arriving here? Seems like that would help stem this... I suppose that might be inconvenient though.

 

[stevegmu]

Full protection garb didn't help that nurse. Plastic, glass, paper... got a suit in shining armor?

I have a Tyvek suit...

 

[stevegmu]

We should just tell Liberia and other outbreak countries no one is allowed out...

 

[Kent C]

Yeah, so why aren't they forcing a mandatory quarantine of 21 days to all 150/day arriving here? Seems like that would help stem this... I suppose that might be inconvenient though.

Actually, imo, it should start in West Africa as I have outlined here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/592850-tobacco-ebola-3.html#post14300581

Tom [referring to Frieden] - you say 'into' the countries. No need to stop health workers from entering the country - just stopping people from exiting the country - before spending 21 days in quarantine.

And since tobacco was in the one treatment that actually saved a few people - I'd have ecigs APV devices using that tobacco as a base available in quarantine - the PG and VG might help too

 

[Nana Gail]

Everyone coming from The African Continent has to have a Visa to enter the United States and Europe. Stop issueing the Visa's and if they come by Private plane or Yacht Quarentine them for 30 days. It has been Maritime Law for Centuries that every Ship carry a series of Flags one of which is a Quarantine FLAG. IT identifies sickness aboard or that the ship is from an area of the Globe where infectious disease is present. Planes can be returned to country of origin. The people from Homeland Security should be checking every Passport for entry and exit stamps from affected countries. Then repatriate them to their Country when they try to come into the US. The National gaurd should be deployed to 24/7 patrol every square inch of our Northern and Southern Boarder for the Next few Months until The African outbreak has been brought under control. The temperature deal is just nonsense, Tylenol and Asprin in the early stages can mask fever and other symptoms easily rendering any temp probe useless unless they are in full blown infectious stage. We are being lied too to keep down public outrage and panic! It was Our own Gov. that allowed the first Ebola into the Country with the Dr. and Nurse (who also used the CDC's prerequiste Protective Gear and became infected. I belive it was so that the CDC didn't have to go too far for their Samples to test the live Virus(Atlanta) CDC headquarters is in Atlanta just a few blocks from the Hospital. They were forced to admit that the Virus lives at least 24-36 hrs on hard Surfaces just last week. What else are they not going to tell us, just to keep us CALM. Everyone should be contacting their UP for election Politicians and tell them"WE WANT THE TRAVEL BAN!" I couldn't care Less about letting Folks fly out of the US to Africa, just do not allow them In until this has resolved! If you think the Silver will help, by all means go for it I myself will be Praying for a Miracle (that our politicians get it right for once, and that this Plague die out quickly)!

 

[Uma]

I have a Tyvek suit...

Ebola protective gear inadequate? Medical staff in USA and Spain infected while wearing isolation gear - NaturalNews.com

 

[stevegmu]

Ebola protective gear inadequate? Medical staff in USA and Spain infected while wearing isolation gear - NaturalNews.com

They just weren't careful, like I am. I've been to many brothels and come out unscathed...

 

[Uma]

They just weren't careful, like I am. I've been to many brothels and come out unscathed...

LOL. They also take extra care to ... pass inspection before your arrival. Like Nevada does.
Even so, there's always that slight chance of a pinprick or something. I'd stick with the armor. Besides, that would be fun to watch on YouTube.

 

[stevegmu]

LOL. They also take extra care to ... pass inspection before your arrival. Like Nevada does.
Even so, there's always that slight chance of a pinprick or something. I'd stick with the armor. Besides, that would be fun to watch on YouTube.

Maybe I'll wear a pair of cut gloves from work...
Video of my adventures wouldn't be allowed on YouTube, but I am writing a book...

 

[Uma]

Everyone coming from The African Continent has to have a Visa to enter the United States and Europe. Stop issueing the Visa's and if they come by Private plane or Yacht Quarentine them for 30 days. It has been Maritime Law for Centuries that every Ship carry a series of Flags one of which is a Quarantine FLAG. IT identifies sickness aboard or that the ship is from an area of the Globe where infectious disease is present. Planes can be returned to country of origin. The people from Homeland Security should be checking every Passport for entry and exit stamps from affected countries. Then repatriate them to their Country when they try to come into the US. The National gaurd should be deployed to 24/7 patrol every square inch of our Northern and Southern Boarder for the Next few Months until The African outbreak has been brought under control. The temperature deal is just nonsense, Tylenol and Asprin in the early stages can mask fever and other symptoms easily rendering any temp probe useless unless they are in full blown infectious stage. We are being lied too to keep down public outrage and panic! It was Our own Gov. that allowed the first Ebola into the Country with the Dr. and Nurse (who also used the CDC's prerequiste Protective Gear and became infected. I belive it was so that the CDC didn't have to go too far for their Samples to test the live Virus(Atlanta) CDC headquarters is in Atlanta just a few blocks from the Hospital. They were forced to admit that the Virus lives at least 24-36 hrs on hard Surfaces just last week. What else are they not going to tell us, just to keep us CALM. Everyone should be contacting their UP for election Politicians and tell them"WE WANT THE TRAVEL BAN!" I couldn't care Less about letting Folks fly out of the US to Africa, just do not allow them In until this has resolved! If you think the Silver will help, by all means go for it I myself will be Praying for a Miracle (that our politicians get it right for once, and that this Plague die out quickly)!

Thanks for your permission, although it's not really called for. Please let up. Nobody said they weren't doing everything possible. We are doing everything possible, including tips that might just might pan out. I'm sorry you've taken offense to it somehow. Its a stressful time, no need to belittle others for sharing tips that might be helpful.

 

[Uma]

Maybe I'll wear a pair of cut gloves from work...
Video of my adventures wouldn't be allowed on YouTube, but I am writing a book...

A classic I hope! In that case, a nice silver suit from Macys ... nah, a Taylor! ... might serve you well.

 

[stevegmu]

A classic I hope! In that case, a nice silver suit from Macys ... nah, a Taylor! ... might serve you well.

Adult themed adventures I have had while traveling and living throughout Europe and Russia...

 

[olderthandirt]

Wow.

I've re-read the OP several times.

The premise of mishandling of Ebola helping the cause of vaping is just wrong.

Yes, I have read the OP several times.

Wow.

Sad.

 

[DrMA]

A second Ebola case in TX.
BBC News - Ebola outbreak: Officials seeking people who flew with nurse

C'mon DC poly-ticks! Subpoena Frieden for a grandstanding witch trial and call for his resignation. It's only going to help your mid-term campaign...