How are you getting liquid?

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BigBuxNoWhammy

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So since e-cig is basically the only way to get liquid, and now people are having troubles with them and packages are getting sent back, how will you get your liquid? what are the other options? cartridges are like more expensive than cigarettes.

I guess I got my first e-cig at a bad time. seems like it'll be a waste now if liquid isn't able to be bought anymore.
 

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trog100 said:
buy normal cig or pipe cig carts and sqeeze the liquid out with a biggish syringe..

pull the wet wool out (tweezers) and bung it in the syringe.. squirt out into container..

trog

What's the point of squeezing the liquid out of cartridges to put back into another cartridge? I dont understand that. Is it because the cartridges you're buying dont fit your e-cig? where do you buy yours from? Because I was looking at e-cig.com and it says you get 5 cartridges of 1ml each for 2.45, but a bottle of 4ml costs 2.95? why is that?

And isnt the problems the same with the cartridges? How would they be allowed to ship cartridges full of the liquid, but not bottles?
 

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The e-pipe cartridges hold more liquid than other cartridges and they are not that much more expensive. E-cig states that e-pipe cartridges hold 4ml of liquid so if you squeeze a pack of 5 cartridges you get about 20ml of liquid. Many people say that their statement is wrong and that the cartridges hold about 2 ml but still with 2ml in each cartridge you get about 10ml of liquid which is not that bad if you consider the risks you take by ordering e-liquid. Also if you think about it it's cheaper.

Michael C.
 

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mixalisc said:
The e-pipe cartridges hold more liquid than other cartridges and they are not that much more expensive. E-cig states that e-pipe cartridges hold 4ml of liquid so if you squeeze a pack of 5 cartridges you get about 20ml of liquid. Many people say that their statement is wrong and that the cartridges hold about 2 ml but still with 2ml in each cartridge you get about 10ml of liquid which is not that bad if you consider the risks you take by ordering e-liquid. Also if you think about it it's cheaper.

Michael C.

You're right. it is cheaper. So what's the reason people order the liquid in bottles if you're getting less of it for more money, AND it's risky?

Also, another question.. how is there no risk ordering the cartridge full of the exact same liquid as opposed to a bottle?
 

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Well I've never purchased an e-liquid before but I recently made an order from e-cig and I was considering to order some but eventually I didn't because of the security risks. After I made the order I found out about this "squeezing" cartridges method and I was glad that I didn't order the e-liquid. So because I have never tried the e-liquid I can't make a comparison of the quality. Maybe the liquid in the cartridges is of cheaper quality than the e-liquid, but again I'm not sure about that. Maybe someone that have tested this can tell us.

About your second question ... well I'm not sure. :cool:

Michael C.
 

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It's the way they built their prices, history. They did not base their prices on how much liquid goes into a cartridge; or at most that was only one of the factors (and of course that decision is logical: whether pipe, e-cig or mini: each cartridge needs a core, flilling, a mouthpiece, a lid of some kind; and those will be the bulk of the cost for the manufacturer). This works out in a price-system where you pay relatively almost the same for any cartridge. While the mini holds half or even less then half of the e-cig, the price is far from half. And the pipe-cartridges, holding 2 to 2.5 times the amount of liquid as you can find in the e-cig (which is around 1 ml, the e-cig classic; the pipe is 2 to 2.5 ml) are not at all 2 to 2.5 times the price of the e-cig.

As to the price compared to the liquid: until short ago, it was cheaper to buy the bottles with liquid. A little cheaper if you bought the smallest bottles of 8 ml (they didn't have 4 ml then); a lot cheaper if you bought bottles of 30 or 50 ml.
And then came the olympics... e-cig wasn't allowed to send out bottles of 30 or 50 ml anymore due to security-reasons, so only the very slightly cheaper 8 ml were left to send out. Then those got banned from express-routes too, and became a pain for e-cig to get out of the country. To still keep selling at a reasonable rate, they then lowered the price of their cartridges: the 'shape' that they are still allowed to send by express (guess that has to do with the fact that governments and airlines don't think a cartridge can be a bomb; and they do think a bottle can be; so bottles are a risk, and a bigger risk around any worldwide event). Anyhow, by lowering the cartridge prices temporarily, the liquid-amount in the biggest cartridges went lower then the price of a same quantity of liquid in an 8ml bottle.

Be prepared for cartridges going back to their former prices once the olympics are done and e-cig is free to send out all bottles by express again though. Then the pipe-cartridges won't be cheaper then the liquid in bottles anymore; so who would thén still put the work into squeezing those out instead of just buying a bottle. But as long as only cartridges can go through the express-route; and the liquid in the largest of them is actualy even cheaper then in bottles - that seems the best route to go for now..
 

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its not certain bottled liquid will be allowed even after the olympics.. paranoia tends to get worse and the terrorist threat aint gonna go away.. once these rules get introduced and accepted they tend to stick..

please keep quite about liquid being liquid even if its in a box of cartridges.. we might lose those as well.. he he he

my pipe order was just returned to the factory because the basic pipe kit contains a small bottle of liquid.. its just been reshipped.. i assume with small bottles removed.. i dont mind as long as the 120 large pipe carts get thru... he he he

the world gets dafter..

trog
 

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I got my first e-cig order today. I purchased a few 8 ml bottles and had it shipped china air. It arrived just 2 days after shipping. No worries. But my order was under a $100 us. I have another order out there and it is just over $100 us. We shall see if that makes a difference.
By the by, one of 5 bottles was leaking and the dropper was broken. But still a 1/3 bottle left. No bubble wrap just small boxes in a bag type mailer.
 

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leaford said:
Cindi, search e-bay. They got EVERYTHING! :D

BTW, if you want to take a chance, you can try ordering the 8ml bottles from e-cig and choose express anyway. It worked for me. And only took 1 day, too. :lol:
Thanks leaford.
I finally found 2 website where prices were reasonable.

For anyone that uses syringes, needles and bottles:

Can you suggest what size of syringes, needles and bottles are best to work with?
For example 5 or 10 cc syringes, 18 gauge needles or smaller and bottles 15 or 30 ml? - or whatever size.

And the syringes come in either Luer Loc or Slip Loc - any knowledge or suggestion here?

Also did I read here on the forum the bottles should be the dark amber ones I'd think you could see the liquid better if they were clear?

Thank you
 

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I bought my syringe from E-Cig for, as I remember, 99 cents. That was back when E-Cig and I were still speaking. The syringe was part of a large order and at the time was just to justify the extravagant shipping cost. When you squeeze liquid from cartridge cores, take the needle out. To fill cartridges, put the needle back in place.

As for clear bottles -- light deteriorates the liquid. Amber helps filter the light.
 

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NerdyCinderella said:
leaford said:
Also did I read here on the forum the bottles should be the dark amber ones I'd think you could see the liquid better if they were clear?

Thank you[/b]

The reason for dark bottles is to minimize exposure to light - it protects the product from degrading.
Most dark bottles are not so dark you can not see the liquid inside. If you keep your bottles in a dark place, the clear ones are OK for short term storage. But if you plan on stocking up for an e-liquid ban or are a slow user the dark bottles will be much kinder to your product.
 

trog100

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my pipe oder was sent back because of the small bottle of liquid in the kit..

it went out again without the liquid and was held for inspection by chinese customs.. the lastest tnt trackings says its been released..

i got another shipping email saying your order has been shipped china post registered parcel.. i think e-cig have shipped the liquid separately.. not as i was overly bothered about the small bottle anyways.. but it seems to have caused problems..

they say (e-cig) customs are getting very fussy..

trog
 
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