I've not premixed before, just didnt enter doing it that way in my head. I'm guessing the main stepping process is done with the premix so can be vaped quicker once the flavour is added.
How do you guys and girls do your diy mixing
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I like that idea, makes sense. I mainly mix pretty big batches of my adv but I will give your method a go for those smaller new flavours.
I'm the same, do it all in one go but have got into the habit of nic then flavour then pg then vg.
I've mixed that way for about 5 yrs now, never entered my head to pre mix.
I dont look like that when I'm mixingMy method:
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Using a scale, I mix straight into the 60ml bottle. VG first, then Nic, then flavours and top it off with PG. I then shake the living .... out of it
That was my thinking exactly which is why I've not premixed before.To me, at least for those who say they measure by weight with scales....that method above doesn't support the claim that "measuring by weight is more accurate than by volume."
Many flavorings are in a PG base, some are in VG, some in ethyl alcohol. Also, every recipe doesn't call for the same total amount of flavoring. So, how "accurate" can the resulting eliquid actually be, doing it that way?
I measure by volume and have just 1 syringe (actually, the barrel only) to wash when I'm finished. Even doing it that way, there's still no contamination or unintentional mixing of flavorings, nic, PG, or VG during the process. The only 2 ingredients I have to actually measure are the nic base and the flavorings. Works like a charm.
Bill's Magic Vapors (longtime ECF member and former DIY guru for years)...said steeping takes place when the flavoring(s) meld or blend with each other and with the nic base, PG, and/or VG.
Otherwise, wouldn't every Liter of nic base we buy...(which is already nic mixed with either PG, VG, or both)...already be "steeped" when we get it? There would be no need for anyone to ever do it again after adding flavoring(s).
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This was my main reason for mixing every ingredient at the same time to let them all blend and steep together. I can see the benefit of premixing in certain circumstances but would have to also steep if just adding the flavour afterwards.
If VG is the last ingredient you add when making DIY...you'll never get a cloudy eliquid. Some people think something's wrong with it...when one turns out cloudy. It's actually just a reaction caused by some flavoring(s) and the VG. Citrusy ones will cause it especially, but there are some others, too. Add VG last, and it won't happen. That's another tip of Bill's.
I have used this--on occasion--to mix my nic base.
PRODUKT Milk-frother, black - IKEA
I've got two of those--one for my lattes, one for my nic.
Oh, Richard. You don't want to know how I mix my eliquids. I'm the world's worst mixer and I don't use recipes; well, I'm more like @sofarsogood and @Jebbn when it comes to mixing. I started my DIY with Bill's famous 100 drop method, where each drop represents 1% of the mix. So I would have tiny bottles filled with 95 drops of my base, then added my "recipes": 3 drops FA cucumber, 1 drop FA black pepper (that was only 4%, so I would add another drop of base).
Nothing much has changed. I rarely exceed 3% flavoring, 2 or 3 flavors, 4 when I feel reckless. I like my 2% FA black tea (FA) with any combination of 1% Fresh cream or 0.5% Vienna/0.5% Fresh Cream; or 3% Green (or White) tea with 1% something sweet like Pear or a touch of honey, and so on. I even use single flavors I like, e.g., FA Custard (again, I may add 1% of Lemon, or Lime, or Forest Fruit, or whatever I feel like). So I use the same base flavors (mostly teas and FA custard) and just create variations on the theme, if you will.
I shake and vape. The rest sits and does its thing. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes just different--I hardly notice at those percentages.
My method:
Using a scale, I mix straight into the 60ml bottle. VG first, then Nic, then flavours and top it off with PG. I then shake the living .... out of it
To me, at least for those who say they measure by weight with scales....that method above doesn't support the claim that "measuring by weight is more accurate than by volume."
Many flavorings are in a PG base, some are in VG, some in ethyl alcohol. Also, every recipe doesn't call for the same total amount of flavoring. So, how "accurate" can the resulting eliquid actually be, doing it that way?
You guys are Iron Chefs.
I'm a home cook. I also do takeout.
@Hoosier and @Kurt argued that it's all about diffusion. Scientifically speaking, they are correct, as there's no steeping or aging or whatever else we call it here involved.
What is Steeping? My juices seem to change flavors over time, why?
Shake, Stir, Heat, Vibrate or let it sit?
We've been discussing the subject, often with great vigor, for years...
Le Chatelier's Principle was also mentioned:
Shake, Stir, Heat, Vibrate or let it sit?
I guess I should have mentioned that I base my PG/VG ratio not on the recipe or flavor but on what feels best for my lungs, so yeah, I use the same mixture for everything. That is to say, the same nic base. The nic level of individual mixes may be off very slightly with different flavor ratios but not enough to trouble me.
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I put in my pg first, then nic, then flavoring. I swirl everything around until its well mixed, then I add the vg last. One trick I've found is to mix in those glass lab triangular shaped flasks, makes mixing for me much easier. These work alot better for me than the open glass mixing beakers I had used. After putting your thumb over the opening you just shake it to your hearts content and then pour it straight into the bottle, already shaken up. The 50ml sized is perfect for 30ml batches, the 100ml flasks I use for 60ml bottles. I get them from River Supply lately. They have many on amazon, altho the quality varies and you need to be careful. The River Supply versions are from Karter Scientific and are very good quality. 50ml Borosilicate Flask River has them in various sizes up to 1 litre.
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All of mine are single ingredient SnV, no mixology beyond a bit of EM for the lemon and lime.Fifty!?!?!?!
I mix 1 at a time.
I have a collection of beakers and syringes that I never use and a set of graduated glass cylinders and only use the 10 ml size for flavoring. My kitchen scale is more than accurate enough for the other ingredients in 1 liter batches. Mixing directly into the storage bottle saves cleanup time. Finally I use an all in one flavoring. Put together mixing is may be 90 minutes a year at most. My cost of ingredients is about 1 cent per ml, probably less than $30 a year. I'm amazed that so few vapers seem to be mixing.
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