How does a "new" person complian about a supplier?

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rkg

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I lurk. I don't post. I just got ripped off by one of the forum suppliers. I can prove this and have contacted my CC company to dispute the charges. How do I warn other people about this company?


They also have a complaint at RIPOFF REPORT. This is not my personal experience. However, it is not exactly dissimilar.

So, what, as someone with limited privileges, are you supposed to do?
 

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You will need to have 5 posts total and about 1 hour wait time, then you can post in other areas of the forum. I believe you would post a negative review here.
Reviews of Suppliers - Negative
Please read the rules that are stickies at the top before you post.
Good luck in your resolution, maybe send the supplier a PM to see if you can get resolution before posting? USPS has been crazy lately.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply!

I use a Leo with a combination of the tank and caratomizers. I started off with a couple of different brands and settled on the KR808 before trying the Leo. I vape between 24-36mg and am a fairly heavy user. I like to try different products out and mods but I am not too crazy as mainly this was just a means of quitting smoking.

It has, for the most part, worked. Which I think is amazing. I have been a heavy smoker since I was 13.
 

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It's one of the Forum Suppliers.
Yeah rkg join in the conversation for your 5 posts.

Nope. It's another one. But, I don't want to put them on blast here, since there is an appropriate forum for it elsewhere. I had not anticipated how friendly everyone would be and how quickly people would respond. Thank you.
 

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No I meant you had mentioned it WAS one of the Suppliers. Nice to see another high Nic person here. I also started at 36 mg but have since stepped it down to 20. Hopefully your problem can be resolved.

Nope. It's another one. But, I don't want to put them on blast here, since there is an appropriate forum for it elsewhere. I had not anticipated how friendly everyone would be and how quickly people would respond. Thank you.
 

rkg

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No I meant you had mentioned it WAS one of the Suppliers. Nice to see another high Nic person here. I also started at 36 mg but have since stepped it down to 20. Hopefully your problem can be resolved.

I don't really know who all the Forum Suppliers are offhand. I happen to know that this one is. I found them through ECF. I come here all the time for news and sources, as this the best place on the web for vaping info (at least as far as I know).
 

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You're doing pretty good rkg, so far.

Another answer and a little wait and you are on your way.

What are you looking for in your vape that you are not getting now?

Hoosier, you rock. Can I just say that?


I am missing consistently satisfying. Which is why I am thinking about looking at more expensive mods and juice boxes. The Leo is great but sometime inconsistent. However, it's the best other than k808 pass through. I am told that what I am looking for is more ohms. But, I am a little skeptical about this, given that I have found some mods that use them a little less satisfying.

One thing I am curious about is why my friends, who are lighter smokers, seem to find the e-cigs so hard to deal with. I wonder if there is really a difference in the type of cig/nicotine addiction I have vs. someone who smokes significantly less than I did.
 

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Ah, addictions are a personal thing. Each is different, just have the same name.

You may want to think in Watts instead of Ohms. Watts is power is heat is throat hit. Ohms is resistance to current.

Low Ohms means higher Watts and higher Ohms means lower Watts. So if you increase your resistance, Ohms, you decrease your Watts, Power, Heat, Throat Hit, or Kick if you will.

Watts = Voltage * Voltage / Ohms

Voltage is obvious way to increasing, or decreasing, the Wattage, once you see the formula, but many folks have a fixed voltage battery and have to change the Ohm value of the atomizer/cartomizer to get the vape they are looking for.

Edit: You can say I rock. I've been told there are a number rattling around in my brain pan.
 

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If you have a plain 808 pass-through, no inline battery, and that is satisfying, then what you need is more power -- higher voltage and/or lower resistance. That leads to more warmth, vapor, "hit".

On an ego-type battery, decent mAh (current capacity) but fairly low voltage, try something in the 1.8 - 2 ohm area and see if it helps (assuming you are maybe using stock 2.5 ohms or thereabouts). If your regular battery is perhaps a KR808 3.7 - 3.8V one, then try a cartomizer around 2.5 ohms.

After about 8 months I moved up to a decent variable voltage setup, have stayed VV since. I tend to run anywhere from 2.5 - 3.1 ohm cartomizers, in a tank, at anywhere between 4V - 5.2V, depends on the cartomizer and just how I feel at a given time. This setup means I always have passthrough-type performance/power, while still being able to dial it down when I want to.
 

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You may want to think in Watts instead of Ohms. Watts is power is heat is throat hit. Ohms is resistance to current.

Low Ohms means higher Watts and higher Ohms means lower Watts. So if you increase your resistance, Ohms, you decrease your Watts, Power, Heat, Throat Hit, or Kick if you will.

Watts = Voltage * Voltage / Ohms

Voltage is obvious way to increasing, or decreasing, the Wattage, once you see the formula, but many folks have a fixed voltage battery and have to change the Ohm value of the atomizer/cartomizer to get the vape they are looking for.

Edit: You can say I rock. I've been told there are a number rattling around in my brain pan.

Thank you for keeping the conversation going and for explaining Voltage/Ohms. I appreciate it.

My consistency issue is flavor, vapor production, and throat hit.

The flavor issue I understand to be a problem with whicking. This is more of a problem with cartridges/tanks. But less so with the cartomizers.

The throat hit is the amount of heat. But what seems to get me is the variations voltage one gets depending on battery life. I have seen a ton of posts explaining how "when your battery level is X your voltage is actually Y as opposed to what it's rated at" The source of my skepticism is mostly that I like the tanks - because the run less hot than the other options. Further, a number of heavier hitting models simply don't do it for me.

Vapor Production, from my understanding, is more dependent on juice than anything else. Is that right?
All of this is making me wish I had started participating much sooner.
 

rkg

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If you have a plain 808 pass-through, no inline battery, and that is satisfying, then what you need is more power -- higher voltage and/or lower resistance. That leads to more warmth, vapor, "hit".

On an ego-type battery, decent mAh (current capacity) but fairly low voltage, try something in the 1.8 - 2 ohm area and see if it helps (assuming you are maybe using stock 2.5 ohms or thereabouts). If your regular battery is perhaps a KR808 3.7 - 3.8V one, then try a cartomizer around 2.5 ohms.

After about 8 months I moved up to a decent variable voltage setup, have stayed VV since. I tend to run anywhere from 2.5 - 3.1 ohm cartomizers, in a tank, at anywhere between 4V - 5.2V, depends on the cartomizer and just how I feel at a given time. This setup means I always have passthrough-type performance/power, while still being able to dial it down when I want to.

I read once that the 808passthroughs were actually running close to 5volts. I don't know if that's true tho. I use the 3.7s and that's also why I like the Leos. I haven't noticed a gigantic difference between the lower resistance carts. But, they are better (and I do buy them over the others), just not better enough.

Why are you running higher on a tank system? Does that mess with the atty? Also, what model do you use?

Thanks!
 

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I use notcigs VV devices, have an original Infinity and a Buzz Pro. The performance is excellent on both. They have a 15W capability, higher than Provari and, I believe, Darwin, at a lower price point. They adjust over 3.5 - 5.5V. They don't have an LCD, don't measure resistance, all there is to them is a simple thumbwheel to change the voltage and the button to fire them up. $110 is the current price for an I Pro with charger and one set of batteries, about the same as a Lava Tube but a proven, rugged, design. A second pair of batteries and using their coupon code (ECF Buzzkill) brings in a really nice kit at a nice price point.

A true passthrough will indeed be 4.8 - 5V, as it just passes through the USB voltage (wires run through the tube to the connector). Key to them is having a good 2A USB power supply -- I like the $10 IQ Dual USB 2A (Walmart online, $10), which can be used with down to a 2.5 ohm carto.

A regular PC USB is bad to use with a true PT -- it might take out the PC or power supply in the event of a short, and most PCs don't really have enough current capacity on their USB ports. You have voltage sag, over stress components, to drive the PT.

The tank doesn't do too much other than hold a lot of eliquid, keeps the carto nicely wet all the time. I tend to like vaping in the 6 - 9W zone, most of the time around 8W, which leads to the voltages I use. I'll nudge the little thumbwheel a little in one direction or the other throughout the day to vary the warmth and tweak the taste during the day.
 
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