How dry can your lungs gets before having issues...

[Kagey K]

I just suggested that if breathing in a vapor that goes into your mouth down your throat and into your lung would have the same drying effect and if there would be an issue. A simple answer would have been sufficient... and clearly if I asked this question I do not know allot about anatomy...

New member forum should really be for people to answer questions rather than trying to put someone down for asking.. seems like this forum is being trolled..

Link your study that said that people that vaped had reduced lungs and then we can talk. If you found it once you can find it again.

Just to cover what you said you said there was proof that vaping.....

Not asking a question you suggested that there was evidence with a hypothesis after that.

 

[Terp]

He's not a troll, I read the same study months back and it was on this site.

It stated that your lung function would be impaired for a couple minutes after doing something like 10 straight minutes of heavy strong vaping.

I didn't give it a second thought after that because I knew I didn't vape like that and I'm sure most others don't.

 

[USinchains]

The simple answer is, it doesn't happen.

For a first hand demo of what K is explaining, breath on some sunglass lenses then wipe the lense with your finger.

Or forget all the respiratory science and look at it this way.. When you're dehydrated, your whole body can became deprived of moisture. When you rehydrate by drinking water, it passes out of your stomach, through your blood vessels around the entire body, and into all of your organs from your skin right down to your bone marrow. The water you drink is not simply wetting your mouth and throat.

 

[Kagey K]

He's not a troll, I read the same study months back and it was on this site.

It stated that your lung function would be impaired for a couple minutes after doing something like 10 straight minutes of heavy strong vaping.

I didn't give it a second thought after that because I knew I didn't vape like that and I'm sure most others don't.

I have never read this and would like to, not only to see the sample size but some of the variables as well. I am very interested in this study. Can you provide me with a link?

The simple answer is, it doesn't happen.

For a first hand demo of what K is explaining, breath on some sunglass lenses then wipe the lense with your finger.

Or forget all the respiratory science and look at it this way.. When you're dehydrated, your whole body can became deprived of moisture. When you rehydrate by drinking water, it passes out of your stomach, through your blood vessels around the entire body, and into all of your organs from your skin right down to your bone marrow. The water you drink is not simply wetting your mouth and throat.

I knew there were biases against vaping, but didn't expect to have to go this far back to help explain simple bodily functions. I imagine this is what the FDA is doing with their millions and millions of dollars right now.

 

[USinchains]

If vaping could cause my lungs to go dry, then I could also blame it for the wicked cramp I'm having in my calf muscle.

 

[StarDose]

Thanks, I understood what he said just didn't appreciate the way he said it.

I know most of the publicity towards vaping is negative and gives reason to be paranoid thinking everyone is against it. Just try not to think that way cause most people really don't care either way. Everything not just vaping has negative publicity just the way the world is. Imagine watching the news and only seeing positive things... that would seem out of place in this day and age... please don't look at every post to see if there is any sort of small possible threat in it like others are already doing to vaping.

I'm not anti vaping and never will be, there is no way this could be nearly as bad as smoking which is why I choose to vape.

I will also continue to ask questions and start by saying "just an odd thought I had today" if needed like today.

 

[Terp]

I have never read this and would like to, not only to see the sample size but some of the variables as well. I am very interested in this study. Can you provide me with a link?




I knew there were biases against vaping, but didn't expect to have to go this far back to help explain simple bodily functions. I imagine this is what the FDA is doing with their millions and millions of dollars right now.

E-cigarettes 'may damage lungs' - PubMed Health

 

[nahoku]

Geesh... I thought I got away from OP crushing when I left the Canon forum on DPReview.com.

The OP asked a simple honest question and was met with strong resistance by vape-fan-boys! Not a pretty sight!

Along with what Terp posted... maybe the OP may have read THIS too...

 

[Happy2beMe]

please help. where do I go to post a new thread?

 

[Kagey K]

Geesh... I thought I got away from OP crushing when I left the Canon forum on DPReview.com.

The OP asked a simple honest question and was met with strong resistance by vape-fan-boys! Not a pretty sight!

Along with what Terp posted... maybe the OP may have read THIS too...

You don't believe this was a legit question do you? If it was it was answered very quick and even the op tried to call thread over after he realized how dumb it was.

Did I do this right? Am I missing a fanboy again?

Am I doing this right? Did I miss a fanboy somewhere?
Science fanboys and cigarette fanboys and breathing fanboys can all agree this is stupid. Even the fanboys to argue the fanboys would find this fanboy question stupid. Ren and Stimpy could have answered this, but unfortunately they were fanboys of not breathing. ....

 

[miniwheat]

If vaping could cause my lungs to go dry, then I could also blame it for the wicked cramp I'm having in my calf muscle.

Eat a banana... That's your sodium-potassium pump you're referring to.

 

[USinchains]

Unfortunately, it will stay that way until the FDA's ecig persecution ends. This place has been sneak attacked by trolling non-smoking advocates for a limg time. This is where the defensive responses come from.

Geesh... I thought I got away from OP crushing when I left the Canon forum on DPReview.com.

The OP asked a simple honest question and was met with strong resistance by vape-fan-boys! Not a pretty sight!

Along with what Terp posted... maybe the OP may have read THIS too...

 

[USinchains]

Eat a banana... That's your sodium-potassium pump you're referring to.

In my case, you're probably right, but it was cramping from dehydration I was referring to. Ironically, I eat bananas every day, along with 200 ounces of water. I must have carried too much weight up hills, yesterday.

 

[Kagey K]

So now that the fanboys had their say, do we want to analyze this "study" or is it better off left off? Let the fanboys have their way? or let the fanboys show you how flawed that study is?

Should be fun. Hopefully now the fanboys are satisfied and only the non-smokers and converts continue in the next part. Hate to have any bias in here.

 

[nahoku]

You don't believe this was a legit question do you? If it was it was answered very quick and even the op tried to call thread over after he realized how dumb it was.

Am I doing this right? Did I miss a fanboy somewhere?
Science fanboys and cigarette fanboys and breathing fanboys can all agree this is stupid. Even the fanboys to argue the fanboys would find this fanboy question stupid. Ren and Stimpy could have answered this, but unfortunately they were fanboys of not breathing. ....

You've been here too long. Since when is a "newbie" question dumb? Everyone starts somewhere and some people don't know how to ask questions... they just have something on their mind. No question should ever be addressed as stupid... especially by those supposedly more experienced.

And to answer your question... Yah, I believed his question is just as legit as yours.

So, now you've got links to the reports, just like you asked... you still think the OP was imagining them? You should be apologizing to him... not throwing around more animosity.

Look, I'm not here to argue with you, but geesh... give the guy a break. He's new to all this!

 

[vsummer1]

Thank you all for such an entertaining thread. Carry on....

Oh, and WELCOME to ECF all the new people, this isn't usually the welcome one gets, but what the heck, it sure is entertaining! Beef jerky lungs, pooping tar, fanboys and bananas. Gotta just love the internet!

 

[Kagey K]

You've been here too long. Since when is a "newbie" question dumb? Everyone starts somewhere and some people don't know how to ask questions... they just have something on their mind. No question should ever be addressed as stupid... especially by those supposedly more experienced.

And to answer your question... Yah, I believed his question is just as legit as yours.

So, now you've got links to the reports, just like you asked... you still think the OP was imagining them? You should be apologizing to him... not throwing around more animosity.

Look, I'm not here to argue with you, but geesh... give the guy a break. He's new to all this!

They face many problems with this "test" 32 people is not a large sample and they chose people with asthma and CLPD as the non-smoker part.

32 people is a sample now? and when I try to Google the exact address you linked it doesn't appear, meaning it's not the one he saw. When you get 32 people and a smoker beats a non smoker in a challenge doesn't make the non smokers lungs weaker. There are no scientific evidences that vaping caused them to lose, other then the hypothesis made that is again unproven.

Very weak argument and not the OP's because he said he googled it and no keywords can make it come up because it is that unreputable.

Did you run the race before they vaped? What did the winner win by that time? He likely would have been the same guy by the same time, there were no medical devices or measurements other then we had smokers, asthamtics and CLPD run a race and the smokers won. Wat was scientific about that exactly? What was the X and Y variables?

What was the mean time before they vaped and the mean time after? Did the smokers gain time or the asthmatics lose time? CPLD stay the same? These questions you can't answer but claim it harmed everyone.

Care to try again?

 

[miniwheat]

In my case, you're probably right, but it was cramping from dehydration I was referring to. Ironically, I eat bananas every day, along with 200 ounces of water. I must have carried too much weight up hills, yesterday.

My bad! I suppose I misread that part.

 

[Kagey K]

They face many problems with this "test" 32 people is not a large sample and they chose people with asthma and CLPD as the non-smoker part.

32 people is a sample now? and when I try to Google the exact address you linked it doesn't appear, meaning it's not the one he saw. When you get 32 people and a smoker beats a non smoker in a challenge doesn't make the non smokers lungs weaker. There are no scientific evidences that vaping caused them to lose, other then the hypothesis made that is again unproven.

Very weak argument and not the OP's because he said he googled it and no keywords can make it come up because it is that unreputable.

Did you run the race before they vaped? What did the winner win by that time? He likely would have been the same guy by the same time, there were no medical devices or measurements other then we had smokers, asthamtics and CLPD run a race and the smokers won. Wat was scientific about that exactly? What was the X and Y variables?

What was the mean time before they vaped and the mean time after? Did the smokers gain time or the asthmatics lose time? CPLD stay the same? These questions you can't answer but claim it harmed everyone.

Care to try again?

My bad! I suppose I misread that part.

If you want to say that vaping hurt them then you should consider that they would have to run it once, get refreshed and come back another day to run or they would already be tired. Nice way to try to slant it, but it gives no starts and tries to call loose ends together based on nothing.

No wonder he knew what he did about Anatomy and basic science if this is the result of a study. What a joke.

 

[sonicdsl]

New Members forum is not the place to jump all over someone asking a question. Settle down. This thread is closed.