Did I say "everyone?" When did I say people weren't buying Provari's?
HOW has the Provari not been cloned?
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Did I say "everyone?" When did I say people weren't buying Provari's?
Do you have any APV's capable of handling more power?
There are plenty of sub ohm (a dated concept really) that don't chase clouds, they chase flavor.
I get plenty of vapor and flavor and I never do sub ohm.
You don't need a mech or a DNA mod to do this - my Provari is fine for this.
The ProVari amp/watts limits are great for some toppers, like say a KFL. For others, if you want to maximize the power in a re-buildable like a dual coil IGO, or a Helios, the 15 watt/3.5 amp limit is....well...limiting. I agree. I would like to see version 3 of the ProVari have 20-30 watts of power, and fire down to say 0.6 ohms. Currently, I have to use my Caravela with my Helios if I want 20 watts...and sometimes I want 20 watts!
The criticism that atomizers have changed what should be expected of mods, and ProVari should adapt with these changes is a reasonable one.
It's funny you say that. My boyfriend has been working on cars since he was a little kid, and 30+ years later he's the shop foreman at a dealership. He buys Snap-on tools almost exclusively. He loves his Provari and admires the details that go into it and, like me, likes the LED screen and the exposed screws. In fact when I made a template to cut wraps for the Provaris I left cutouts for the screws rather than covering them up. To both of us, the Provari is first and foremost a tool and as a tool, it's perfect for us (which is why we have 4 now).
I get that it's not your thing, but I really dislike being told I have bad taste. That's rude.
People like what they like. You can say "I don't like the screws. I don't like the LED." Those are opinions. When you state them as fact, it's no wonder people get defensive, right?So you want the Provari to be a DNA?
I kid, I kid. I agree with you and that was my point.
The Chinese are already producing a 5-30W watt APV board. Will Provari do the same?
nope. there are plenty of mil spec dot matrix screens. The technology is far from new, and far from fragile. You're trying to defend bad design and a lack of progress because its on something you like
If it works for you, I'm glad for you. if it keeps you off the combustion cigarettes, even more so. And I'm not saying the provari is a bad device. I'm saying that it no longer is valid to call it "the best", even in its category. It is a rock solid device, just like an 85 civic was. But for the same money, I'd have a 2013 lexus.
nice to meet you robin. please don't take it as me saying you vape wrong or anything like that. I guess I was a cloud chaser from way back, or a "texture chaser". I always found such low power to be unsatisfying on the draw. Some say the flavor is better at lower power. I can see certain flavors getting burnt off, I know I build my coils depending on the juice that runs through it. cooler, smaller coils for fruits, hotter twisted coils for desserts and spices. And yes, 18xx0 batteries are so much nicer than cig alikes
the ability to use flat top batteries would be nice too
Oh and btw, china built vv chips, then went right to cloning the dna. They skipped right over the provari chip, even though the obviously could have done it if they made a dna. Food for thought
Anyone know approximately how much more advanced the DNA30 chip is over the provape?
Some quick internet searching seems to indicate the Dna30 is a brilliant little piece of engineering. The special edition ZNA30 mod looks Flawless in appearance. Real attention to detail at its very best. The only knock seems to be very limited (Mech)reverse battery protection but they claim that the battery itself can be more accurately monitored with the current set-up....I'm not sure about how I feel on that one. Anyone familiar with the reverse batt issues ?
See to you, that ZNA30 looks "Flawless in appearance," but to me, it looks like a can of pepper spray. To each their own.Some quick internet searching seems to indicate the Dna30 is a brilliant little piece of engineering. The special edition ZNA30 mod looks Flawless in appearance. Real attention to detail at its very best. The only knock seems to be very limited (Mech)reverse battery protection but they claim that the battery itself can be more accurately monitored with the current set-up....I'm not sure about how I feel on that one. Anyone familiar with the reverse batt issues ?
Edit: The lowest it goes is 7 watts, and I typically vape at 6-6.5 watts, so it wouldn't meet my needs even if they were selling them for $15.
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Exactly - to each their own. That's not something I would be interested in. Is it cool? Yes, absolutely, I like the steamline moderne design. Is it something I want to handle all day or carry with me? Nope. I prefer a simple tube design (same reason I've never been interested in a Reo).
Nice analog Rube Goldberg wart remover. Does that come in an electronic mod version?
Yup. It's called the VWR-II (variable wart remover version 2) The first version accidentally removed a few heads so they had to redesign quickly.
They wouldn't of had that problem but everyone wanted a VW version.
Some quick internet searching seems to indicate the Dna30 is a brilliant little piece of engineering. The special edition ZNA30 mod looks Flawless in appearance. Real attention to detail at its very best. The only knock seems to be very limited (Mech)reverse battery protection but they claim that the battery itself can be more accurately monitored with the current set-up....I'm not sure about how I feel on that one. Anyone familiar with the reverse batt issues ?
I saw one in the wild in Tampa. PBusardo and Dimitris were vaping them up while walking around doing the meet and greets. The actual ZNA's sold out rather quickly at 279.00.
They are BEASTLY Heavy. Right at VTR heavy, but they are very distinctive. The tubes are in different sizes to allow for different battery configurations.
The Evolv chipsets (DNA and the ones used in the Kicks) do not have any type of reverse battery protection circuitry. According to Evolv, they are unable to do so and be able to perform . Hook up the battery the wrong way and they go bye bye. No questions asked. Most modders who sell the DNA chipset put a huge disclaimer that states if you put the battery in backwards, you are on your own.
This is why I think a lot of DNA mod's are using permanently or semi permanently installed batteries (like the protovapor or hana modz.) It's much easier just to add the micro USB charging module that evolve makes and prevent the user from easily blowing up the chip set.
The ProVari's reverse battery protection is physical, in that there is no circuitry in it, but rather the board is designed to only accept button top batteries, so it's impossible to put in the battery wrong and make contact with + terminal of the control board. Of course this prevents ProVari users from using flat top batteries.
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