Ahh, another one of those you have to vape my way or you are doing it wrong kind of people.
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HOW has the Provari not been cloned?
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nope. there are plenty of mil spec dot matrix screens. The technology is far from new, and far from fragile. You're trying to defend bad design and a lack of progress because its on something you like
But that's the thing. It IS the best FOR me. I would never presume to tell someone else that their device, that they are Totally Happy, with is not a good device. That would be rude. (Ahem) All I seek is something that works, when I need it to work. Nothing more, nothing less.
If it works for you, I'm glad for you. if it keeps you off the combustion cigarettes, even more so. And I'm not saying the provari is a bad device. I'm saying that it no longer is valid to call it "the best", even in its category. It is a rock solid device, just like an 85 civic was. But for the same money, I'd have a 2013 lexus.
Hi I'm Robin
Nice to meet you.
2.4 Vivi nova heads at 3.3-3.5 on a Provari. I don't like the thought of a cig-a-like because I like just changing the battery out of the tube. I also like that I only have to change the battery every 24 hours or so.
nice to meet you robin. please don't take it as me saying you vape wrong or anything like that. I guess I was a cloud chaser from way back, or a "texture chaser". I always found such low power to be unsatisfying on the draw. Some say the flavor is better at lower power. I can see certain flavors getting burnt off, I know I build my coils depending on the juice that runs through it. cooler, smaller coils for fruits, hotter twisted coils for desserts and spices. And yes, 18xx0 batteries are so much nicer than cig alikes
the ability to use flat top batteries would be nice too
Oh and btw, china built vv chips, then went right to cloning the dna. They skipped right over the provari chip, even though the obviously could have done it if they made a dna. Food for thought
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Agree with the above comments. I'm a simple vapor. I prefer a cooler vapor with higher ohm coils at lower voltages, too.
I wouldn't use higher voltages if they were available. I wouldn't use variable wattage if it was on my mod. To me those are as useless as a puff counter.
I don't particularly care about my mods' looks, although I happen to like the look of a Provari. It's a distinctive design which is easily recognizable as a Provari. One exception: no offense to Vamo owners, but it looks like the cartoon robot character on Futurama.
I simply want dependability and reliability. I appreciate a fine quality build with attention to detail. I like durability, and the option to be able to get something fixed should I break it. I CAN tell the difference between a 33.3 hz chip and a Provari or MVP. The Provari is what works best for me.
I wouldn't use higher voltages if they were available. I wouldn't use variable wattage if it was on my mod. To me those are as useless as a puff counter.
I don't particularly care about my mods' looks, although I happen to like the look of a Provari. It's a distinctive design which is easily recognizable as a Provari. One exception: no offense to Vamo owners, but it looks like the cartoon robot character on Futurama.
I simply want dependability and reliability. I appreciate a fine quality build with attention to detail. I like durability, and the option to be able to get something fixed should I break it. I CAN tell the difference between a 33.3 hz chip and a Provari or MVP. The Provari is what works best for me.
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I think youre the first person who has ever called the Provari a bad design, even most of critics can usually agree that its well built. If they added dot matrix even more of you would be complaining about the accompanying rise in price.
If im understanding you correctly, its a bad design for you because it lacks bells and whistles. That doesnt make it fact.
Ask an engineer or better yet a mechanic, more complicated almost always means less reliable and that goes for your example of the Lexus above as well. Id take the Civic all day long because I dont need a degree in auto mechanics and/or thousands of dollars to fix it when something breaks at 300k miles.
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The power debate really comes down to toppers. If you're into rebuildables, the Provari will probably be lacking for a lot of vapers. If you're into carto's and clearos, it delivers. This is why you see most people that are into RBAs going for the DNA mods.
Oh and btw, china built vv chips, then went right to cloning the dna. They skipped right over the provari chip, even though the obviously could have done it if they made a dna. Food for thought
Probably just easier to clone.
Im confused about that as well. Mine goes as low as 3 volts and as high as 6 volts.If you want more than that buy a fog machine and a funnel.
**edit there is NO possible way new vapers are inhaling that much vapor.I smoked 2 packs a day for 25 years and a 3ohm atty at 5.2 volts is plenty for me. That says the only appeal to mega watts and sub ohms is almost completely for show and that will get vaping banned IMO. Words like fronting, fake, poser, superficial, attention *****, etc also spring to mind and none of them have any good connotations to my way of thinking.
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Power and amp limit. A lot of people want more than a 3 amp limit. Why do you think mechs and DNA mods have taken off? The times are a changin.
yes the build quality is extremely good. The 510 threads are almost indestructible (I know, I dropped mine on the atomizer and broke the threads off in it a couple of times). The bottom cap threads are among the best ive felt. the button, though I didn't care for the throw, never gave me the feeling it would let me down.
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The need to use button top only cells is a horrendous design oversight. Many batteries are hard to find in button top without paying a huge premium, ex the sony vtc4. I will use no other battery in any device period until something comes along that does what it does better. but I'm not going to pay another $3 per cell just to use it in a provari.
The exposed screws on the side are straight up bad design. The rest of the device looks smooth and refined, then you look at the screen and it looks thrown in there. I know what they do, and I think its a good idea. but making some effort to hide them or tie them into the design would be good.
The lack of option for a 22mm top cap in my opinion is a bad idea. like I said, the provari was designed when carto tanks were the thing. it looks wrong with say a kayfun on it. and beauty rings are a half arsed answer.
Ask any mechanic what's more reliable, a carb or efi.
btw, you're so far off on the lexus/civic thing above. My lexus has 160k on it and every switch, every little thing still works perfect. So did the one I looked at before with 270k on it. My alternator costs $90 and will take about 1.5 hrs to swap out if I take my time. Sounds about the same as the Honda, but i'm riding in class and you're riding in a rattle trap for boy racers
Also also, I don't need to ask a mechanic or an engineer. I dropped out of engineering school to turn wrenches and there's nothing I love more. I can talk Occam's razor all day, and I can tell you you're way off on your idea of simplicity.
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and the provari isn't? A 800hz filtered pwm circuit with a closed loop feedback circuit? you're being facetious
and the fun thing is someone just said I was being a troll because they interpreted my statements as saying other people vape wrong. You just come out and say it. I subohm because it thickens up the vapor, same reason I vape high vg and prefer coconuts and crème flavors. I like a thick, chewy texture. But hey, if that makes me a superficial attention ....., so be it. At least I don't have to tear people down when I get butthurt they don't agree with me
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Just a thanks to everyone. Good read. I like the way my ProVari friends in these threads behave and I don't even own one yet. No one ever said I couldn't be their friend or hang out because of what I own or like, and I think that's pretty cool. Suppose there are extremists but they never seem to grab much of my attention.
Provari has a 3.5amp limit - enough for the majority of users.
I've got a lot of RBA's - never had a problem so I don't really know what you're talking about.
There's a lot of DNA mods being sold because there's a lot of companies using DNA boards.
And you're a bully or a troll - haven't worked out which yet.
You haven't noticed a trend towards people desiring more power? You haven't noticed a trend toward dna's and mechs?
There's a big misconception about the people that desire more power. Not everyone is taking 10 second lung hits out of 3.5mm drill outs and wide bore drip tips. A lot of people like the increased flavor from a 1 second burst pull out of a high powered device.
Just because that's how you like to vape doesn't mean everyone else does - folks still buy Provari's - why do you think that is?
Mechs are cheap and everyone is using the DNA because it saves them from having to engineer boards.
I switched from cigarettes to cigars because cigars were bigger and produced more smoke...
But that was just a dream I had once.
The people upping the amps and cloud chasing need to find WTA ejuices or up their nicotine. That's my opinion, anyways.
But that was just a dream I had once.
The people upping the amps and cloud chasing need to find WTA ejuices or up their nicotine. That's my opinion, anyways.
Damn this was a funny thread! Glad I clicked on it. Gotta love all of our little clicky groups here on ECF. 
And just for good measure and to get back to the OP I'll add my 2.
Provari's have and never will be cloned because you can't clone perfection and as for Reo's.... well... umm.... they already did. They're called wheel chocks.
And always remember that there are only 2 kinds of people in this world. Those who own a Provari and those who wish they did.
Keep it fun and non-personal or I'll tell my mom.
Oh wait... never mind, she's not around anymore.
Carry on.
Gotta love all of our little clicky groups here on ECF. And just for good measure and to get back to the OP I'll add my 2.
Provari's have and never will be cloned because you can't clone perfection and as for Reo's.... well... umm.... they already did. They're called wheel chocks.
And always remember that there are only 2 kinds of people in this world. Those who own a Provari and those who wish they did.
Keep it fun and non-personal or I'll tell my mom.
Oh wait... never mind, she's not around anymore.
Carry on.
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I think it depends on what you're building. I have a Kayfun 3.1, an AGA-T2 two Kraken clones, a Forge clone, a Chident, a Chitriot, and 3 IGO-Ws. I didn't have issues on any of them, though I almost exclusively use a Dripper Pro at this point and have a Sophia on the way. If you are *cloud chasing* perhaps you want something that will handle a quad coil or sub-ohming. But I've always found myself pretty happy in the 1.x ohm range and the single-coil Dripper Pro at 1.2 and 3.6v is my favorite vape. The only clearos we own are the Nautilus Aspire and an Aerotank. I use the AGA-T2 or Nautilus occasionally if I need something other than a dripper. The rest are gathering dust, but that doesn't have anything to do with the Provari.
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