How many Joye atty users thoroughly clean their new attys before using?

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I know there is a ton of Cisco fans here and you don't deal with the solvent on your new atty, so I directed this at Joye users. I have always just blown them out before using them and suffered through the ill taste for a little while afterwards. Just curious how many folk soak, steam or otherwise clean them before ever using them. Part of the reason I'm asking is that I got to wondering if cooking the residual solvent on to the coils might actually shorten the life of an atty as well as tasting pretty bad. Couldn't hurt anything to do it, right?
 

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I just put a new one on this morning. I blew through it a little bit. Screwed it on, squonked and vaped. Yes, there was a different taste for awhile. But I was in a hurry. Mostly though, I just do the same thing. Never spent the time or effort to clean them before using. Well, maybe when I first started using attys. But that didn't last long.
 

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I know there is a ton of Cisco fans here and you don't deal with the solvent on your new atty, so I directed this at Joye users. I have always just blown them out before using them and suffered through the ill taste for a little while afterwards. Just curious how many folk soak, steam or otherwise clean them before ever using them. Part of the reason I'm asking is that I got to wondering if cooking the residual solvent on to the coils might actually shorten the life of an atty as well as tasting pretty bad. Couldn't hurt anything to do it, right?

I just blow them out hardcore then lightly dry burn for a cpl secs then drip and vape. Primer taste is gone within minutes.
 

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Joyes are about the only attys I purchase, in quantity, any more. But I still get "special" or "fancy" ones and IKV 510s for DH @ ~ 1.7 ohm, as the bulk Joye 510 @ 1.5 ohm are a little hot for DH. Just got in several boxes from VK, for emergency stash. I won't clean them until I break into a box. Right now we have plenty of previously used attys, that have been cleaned, that aren't too tired to get thrown into the emergency. We have some 510 Joye, in the emergency box, that started rotation in 2010. They do get tired after so much use; many months in rotation. The ones that are extremely tired I've chucked.

Most 306 are either IKV or Cisco. I did purchase a bunch, off classies, that included other non-Cisco or non-IKV, along with IKV and Cisco. They were used but as close to new enough, and cleaned by seller, well enough, they appeared brand spanking new.

I'm especially "sensitive" to any taste other than the juice. I have always, and still do, boil ALL attys before using them; 5 minutes very low rolling water (just barely boiling instead of hard rolling boil - hard rolling can potentially make the bottom of pan much higher temp than soft boil) Let dry, for a bit, and then do a very careful dry-burn. I'm a master dry-burner (no brag - just fact) and I've only popped one in 1.5 years. That was an almost new IKV LR 306, on first cleaning after initial use (yes, it had the before use boiling, as all the others get). I pushed the pulsing dry-burn beyond my 20 second rule. That is 20 seconds plusing, rest, 20 second pulsing, rest, etc., unil there is no vapor and/or smell coming out. Pulsing is coil just firing up and then release firing button.

I've started throwing them into a sealed container of "fat" grain rice to speed up the drying, after they cool and blowing them out, before doing the dry-burning.

I'll sometimes push the 510s a little harder and do about a 1-2 seconds on, tail end of each pulsing cycle, if they continue to produce a lot of vapor at end of pulsing cycle. I don't do that with the LR 306 or similar. I learned my lesson.

I, also, put plenty of desiccant packets in the storage bins to keep the moisture at bay.

I, also, used to boil all cartos that were boilable. In 2010 there were still a lot of cartos, especially CE2, that had a lot of "primer" and what I suspect to be soldering residue. I don't boil cartos any more or do any precleaning as the ones we get don't need it. Those are IKV Fusions, SmokeTech, Boge, and SmokeTech Resurectors. There is no room or desire for CE2, in our "stable", any more.

DO NOT dry burn any stuffing carto for sure. Learned my lesson, long ago, on first box, cheap ones thank goodness.

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Joyes are about the only attys I purchase, in quantity, any more. But I still get "special" or "fancy" ones and IKV 510s for DH @ ~ 1.7 ohm, as the bulk Joye 510 @ 1.5 ohm are a little hot for DH. Just got in several boxes from VK, for emergency stash. I won't clean them until I break into a box. Right now we have plenty of previously used attys, that have been cleaned, that aren't too tired to get thrown into the emergency. We have some 510 Joye, in the emergency box, that started rotation in 2010. They do get tired after so much use; many months in rotation. The ones that are extremely tired I've chucked.

Most 306 are either IKV or Cisco. I did purchase a bunch, off classies, that included other non-Cisco or non-IKV, along with IKV and Cisco. They were used but as close to new enough, and cleaned by seller, well enough, they appeared brand spanking new.

I'm especially "sensitive" to any taste other than the juice. I have always, and still do, boil ALL attys before using them; 5 minutes very low rolling water (just barely boiling instead of hard rolling boil - hard rolling can potentially make the bottom of pan much higher temp than soft boil) Let dry, for a bit, and then do a very careful dry-burn. I'm a master dry-burner (no brag - just fact) and I've only popped one in 1.5 years. That was an almost new IKV LR 306, on first cleaning after initial use (yes, it had the before use boiling, as all the others get). I pushed the pulsing dry-burn beyond my 20 second rule. That is 20 seconds plusing, rest, 20 second pulsing, rest, etc., unil there is no vapor and/or smell coming out. Pulsing is coil just firing up and then release firing button.

I've started throwing them into a sealed container of "fat" grain rice to speed up the drying, after blowing them out, before doing the dry-burning.

I'll sometimes push the 510s a little harder and do about a 1-2 seconds on, tail end of each pulsing cycle, if they continue to produce a lot of vapor at end of pulsing cycle. I don't do that with the LR 306 or similar. I learned my lesson.

I, also, put plenty of desiccant packets in the storage bins to keep the moisture at bay.

I, also, used to boil all cartos that were boilable. In 2010 there were still a lot of cartos, especially CE2, that had a lot of "primer" and what I suspect to be soldering residue. I don't boil cartos any more or do any precleaning as the ones we get don't need it. Those are IKV Fusions, SmokeTech, Boge, and SmokeTech Resurectors. There is no room or desire for CE2, in our "stable", any more.

DO NOT dry burn any stuffing carto for sure. Learned my lesson, long ago, on first box, cheap ones thank goodness.

Feisty Alice

BTW..... DH and I probably hold some "records," if such were kept, for longevity of attys. So my cleaning method proves that regular cleaning and dry burning, is not "bad" for attys.

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BTW..... DH and I probably hold some "records," if such were kept, for longevity of attys. So my cleaning method proves that regular cleaning and dry burning, is not "bad" for attys.

Feisty Alice

I might add that, a few weeks ago, I did drill out one hole, on a plus one year old 510. It's the only time I've done that. It did improve the draw and vape. I'm not sure what the coil cup is made of, but there is a possibility that some attys have a coil cup that is not ceramic. I'm theorizing that what ever is near the air hole became swelled from probably vaping heat, over time.

It's also my theory that the boiling keeps the crud from building up on other parts of the atty, including the wire mesh around the cup and the wire mesh covering the bridge.

It's also my theory that the juices one uses can affect not only the ability to clean them, but, also, the vape time between cleanings, and the longevity of attys (and cartos).

It is my theory that our juices are very easy on attys and cartos. We haven't deviated from our basic five favorite juices for any length of time in 1.5 years of vaping.

Feisty Alice
 
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I might add that, a few weeks ago, I did drill out one hole, on a plus one year old 510. It's the only time I've done that. It did improve the draw and vape. I'm not sure what the coil cup is made of, but there is a possibility that some attys have a coil cup that is not ceramic. I'm theorizing that what ever is near the air hole became swelled from probably vaping heat, over time.

It's also my theory that the boiling keeps the crude from building up on other parts of the atty, including the wire mesh around the cup and the wire mesh covering the bridge.

It's also my theory that the juices one uses can affect not only the ability to clean them, but, also, the vape time between cleanings, and the longevity of attys (and cartos).

It is my theory that our juices are very easy on attys and cartos. We haven't deviated from our basic five favorite juices for any length of time in 1.5 years of vaping.

Feisty Alice

It is also my experience that an atty (or carto), every once in a while, just never will act like others in same production run, no matter how you vape or what you do to them.

Feisty Alice
 

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Was gonna give my opinion on it but, Alice already covered it all. One thing that I will say is that I still don't just primer fluid. Just don't know what it is and there's no information on it as well. It's really undetermined if it's even safe to vape. Best to get rid of it and yes, I still have some Joye 510's in my stash.
 
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