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How many people have died from vaping?

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by LMP, Mar 8, 2018.

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  1. LMP

    LMP Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2010
    SLC Utah
    I have been using e cigs for 10 years and e cigs have been around for 14 years, but I can't remember even a single death being reported as caused by vaping. I've read about batteries exploding, I read about a child being killed from drinking 100mg PG nicotine solution, but how many children died the same day from drinking the cleaning fluid that mom leaves under the sink? A lot more. That kind of stuff doesn't count.

    You would think the anti vaping people would have at least one example or some statistics to flaunt in our faces by now. So what I'd like to know is if any of you have read about a death or deaths caused by vaping and if you have a link to the story post it. It would be beneficial to all of us to know of every reported case because the anti vaping people are clearly not paying attention to that and if we know first we can look at each death to see if the report is plausible.
     
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  2. IgnorantCig

    IgnorantCig Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2015
    new york
    The answer to your question is probably very easy to guess, since I would venture to guess that the answer is a big fat zero.

    A much harder question to answer would be how many lives has vaping saved?

    How many millions so far?
     
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  3. papergoblin

    papergoblin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2013
    alabama

    You'll never be able to use a death report (autopsy) to support vaping is or isn't safe. Many die without autopsies everyday, only done when there are questions about demise or the family pays for it, (maybe some places they are required no matter what). Even smokers' deaths aren't listed as smoking, it's usually heart attack/disease, cancer and so on. They may note if there is evidence the person was a smoker but that's about it.

    Here's a good example. My FIL smoked, drank and had lung and colon cancer, was given short time and sent home to die. He got short on breath couldn't suck through a straw, called 911 to take him to a hospital, so as to preempt dehydration. Had a heart attack on the way there and passed on. Official cause of death, heart attack. Even though he had cancer, was a smoker, had Cirrhosis of the liver and drank. No autopsy was ever done, they weren't interested and we didn't have $4000 for something that didn't matter.
     
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  4. LMP

    LMP Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2010
    SLC Utah
    We know how many deaths a year are caused by smoking, why don't we know how many people die each year from vaping?
     
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  5. coldgin96

    coldgin96 MADE IN U.S.A. Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Because it's zero.
     
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  6. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    Because no one has ever died from causes attributable to vaping.

    No one. Ever.

    There have been a few injuries due to battery safety issues, etc. but no deaths..
     
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  7. LMP

    LMP Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2010
    SLC Utah
    If that's the case ecig advocates should make it known, don't you think?
     
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  8. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    They do... memes all over the internet.

    Case in point.. Google "Peanuts kill more people than vaping"
     
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  9. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    I will tell you a future potential problem though..

    When we vapers begin to die. .. we smoked out whole lives and many, if not most, have smoking related medical issues.

    I know my throat was full of pre cancer cells by the time I switched.

    If I get cancer even in 10 years, it's from smoking.. I was having throat problems which caused further testing and found out my throat was full of pre cancer cells. The tests were done a full 6 years prior to my taking up vaping.

    But I'd guarantee you that if I were to get cancer in 10 years, someone will make the attempt to connect it to vaping if I am still vaping at the time.

    Our deaths, especially if smoking related problems come back to haunt us, can potentially skew the information in the future.
     
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  10. FlamingoTutu

    FlamingoTutu Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Aug 5, 2013
    In the Mountains
    One genius injected the liquid and died. Another poor soul tried to use an ecig in an oxygen tent and died. That's it. Can't blame either of those on vaping itself. You'd think vapers were dropping like flies according to the news media.
     
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  12. papergoblin

    papergoblin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 16, 2013
    alabama
    Actually we don't, all we know is the numbers they put out. Just like with vaping propaganda it's the same with smoking. Sometimes it's true when an autopsy is done, other times it just by what a person has on a medical file or what their kin has said, such as a history of smoking.

    Just like my example many are diagnosed with cancer but actually die from the body weakening before the cancer actually kills them. It's the same as people diagnosed with AIDS, many die from infections first. That's why it's usually listed as complications from xxxxx.

    Think about it, you are relying on information for smoking deaths put out by the same agencies that are demonizing vaping.
     
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  13. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    Oh yeah I remember the oxygen tank one. I guess a transistor radio would have done that also. That's an mP 3 player to you young folks. :)
     
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  14. Marc411

    Marc411 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 17, 2014
    Windy City
    From the Navy Times

    "Military health officials say there have been no fatalities as a result of vaping.

    The unequivocal statement from the Armed Forces Medical Examiner on Thursday comes after the Army Public Health Center retracted a report that two Marines had died as a result of seizures induced by vaping.

    [Nope nope nope. Not a topic for discussion on ECF. Period. End of discussion. Sorry, didn't even think about that being mentioned....March411]
     
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  15. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    I regularly read death certificates from the coroners reports from all over the country and in 13 years have not seen smoking mentioned once. Heart disease in what I see the most often as cause of death.
     
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  16. catilley1092

    catilley1092 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 3, 2013
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    To my knowledge, no one has died from vaping!:thumbs:

    There are those who has purchased counterfeit batteries for mods & these caused physical harm, yet that was being careless on their part by ordering low cost clones on eBay & similar sites. It's imperative to order from reliable suppliers of high reputation, there's some good guys on eBay also, Feedback is Everything!:)

    As far as vaping goes, much of what's in the e-juice are actually ingredients used for cooking and food processing. Some companies won't make a stand and say their products are safe for vaping, because they're afraid of the Federal government & other liabilities. However, I respect their choice in the matter, many will still purchase certain brands of flavorings or whatever for mixing from these vendors.

    If there is an unbiased, official list of people who has died of vaping, I'd like to see it presented.:)

    Cat
     
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  17. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Ingesting and inhaling are two very different things. While I believe vaping is safer than smoking, vaping hasn't been around long enough to know the long term side effects. Not a big deal for me, maybe different for a teen or twenty something after vaping for forty years.
     
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  18. catilley1092

    catilley1092 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 3, 2013
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    Yes, these are two different things & there's few long term studies on vaping. Mainly because it's still new to many who are now enjoying indulging. However, I will say this, as a former 37 year smoker that had a lot of smoking related health issues in late 2013, my health has greatly improved since then. X-Rays of the chest and taking the breath test through a tube to measure improvement are real & in my doctor's office. I'd gladly accept an invitation to examined by an unbiased physician of the FDA to see my health in 2013 versus today and would bring all of my records with me.:)

    Plus over $300 in medications to treat the conditions that was needed for over 6 years has been out of my life after just six months of vaping. Most likely, I'd not be here to type this post had I not met a man doing some work next door who vapes & got me onto it. Gums, patches, biofeedback, none of it controlled my cravings. Vaping made analogs taste nasty to me & was on my last half pack.

    I don't believe we'll be reading of many (if any) who has died of vaping.:thumbs:

    Cat
     
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  19. coldgin96

    coldgin96 MADE IN U.S.A. Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  20. Letitia

    Letitia Therion/Nano Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    3.5 years is a drop in a bucket and imo does not reflect long term. The pool of vapers was also very small.
     
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  21. Marc411

    Marc411 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 17, 2014
    Windy City
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