How many people have died from vaping?

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You'll never be able to use a death report (autopsy) to support vaping is or isn't safe. Many die without autopsies everyday, only done when there are questions about demise or the family pays for it, (maybe some places they are required no matter what). Even smokers' deaths aren't listed as smoking, it's usually heart attack/disease, cancer and so on. They may note if there is evidence the person was a smoker but that's about it.

Here's a good example. My FIL smoked, drank and had lung and colon cancer, was given short time and sent home to die. He got short on breath couldn't suck through a straw, called 911 to take him to a hospital, so as to preempt dehydration. Had a heart attack on the way there and passed on. Official cause of death, heart attack. Even though he had cancer, was a smoker, had Cirrhosis of the liver and drank. No autopsy was ever done, they weren't interested and we didn't have $4000 for something that didn't matter.
Death reports are probably not where they collected the information for smoking related deaths.
 

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OK, have done more research into this there have actually been 3 deaths "related" to ecigarettes. 1 was the aforementioned man that injected eliquid, one was a suicide in the UK where the man drank large amounts of alcohol and eliquid, and sadly the third was a 1yr old child that did drink a bottle of liquid.The child case was back in 2014 though before most liquid sellers added child proof caps. There have been 0 cases since.

You can't really count the two adult suicides, since if a person really wants to kill them self, there isn't much you can do to stop them. While the death of a child is always sad, it is important to note that is 1 death in the 10+ years of existence of ecigarettes and none in the last 4 years. There are a lot more things out there to be worried about.
 

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Meanwhile in Poland
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Yeah... but it's Poland, I mean how else are you going to stay warm? It's the same as Russia, if all you get are potatoes, you have to find something entertaining to do with it. I mean, those nested dolls can only be played with so much and etc.

I will say, I am thankful for my Russian liver, not just for all the alcohol it happily processed into entertainment, but I need a liver of STEEL for some of my meds.

If I lived in caveman times I BET I'd outlive many, eating fermented fruits and berries with no problems. Also, I could have been the next Mohammad. I'm THOROUGHLY CONVINCED that dude was unmedicated bipolar. My mom gets so mad when I say it too... She's a Sufi.

I'm just sayin' you can find good in all things.... Except vaping, because it is NOW alcoholism is now been a thing for a long time, we need outrage about something. Enough outrage, of the right type, to justify sin taxes. This is all this is, preparation to tax.

For gosh's sake you should see the things kids get into. I drank toilet bowl cleaner at the age of two when my mom's back was turned. I don't remember it at all, I must've been suicidal at a very young age... And yet, toilet cleaner is still on the market, you don't see people scrubbing out their toilets with elbow grease and brillo pads do you? Nope.... after a quick hospital visit and a stern talking to, my mother continued to use toilet bowl cleaner.

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It depends on the state you live in. Some do allow it, but the two I spend most of my time in (PA and FL) limit ethanol concentration to 75%.
I have lived in PA also. Philadelphia. Sometimes on Sundays I have to drive to New Jersey to get a suitable bottle. Bad state for tank cleaning. My condolences.
 

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Death reports are probably not where they collected the information for smoking related deaths.

Did a little digging through CDC info. They actually won't say x amount of smokers' deaths, actually they estimate it. How, do you ask?, good question, lol.

They take the information provided to them from health care practitioners. Doctors are to report certain diseases to the health dept. or CDC (either way all is transferred to CDC). These diseases are like COPD, cancers (many types) and many other diseases.

The CDC the figures on life expectancy and such (may also be notified when x person dies from listed disease). Now they don't actually autopsy these deaths, they just assume they died from the disease. So in fact some of these numbers could be way off.

Say a person with COPD dies in a car wreck, they are then listed as a wreck stat and smoker death stat possibly, as there is no defined answer to how death stats are obtained. There is where the rub begins, just like with vaping info, there is no transparency. So in fact we just don't know how many deaths there really are, it's a guess and a guess made by people that may have an agenda. Just like they guess about vaping or flat out lie.
 

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Here's a little excerpt to give an idea, pay attention to how the stats are figured.

Percentage of U.S. adults aged 18 years or older who were current cigarette smokers in 2016:9
  • 15.5% of all adults (37.8 million people): 17.5% of males, 13.5% of females
    • Nearly 32 of every 100 non-Hispanic American Indians/Alaska Natives (31.8%)
    • About 25 of every 100 non-Hispanic multiple race individuals (25.2%)
    • Nearly 17 of every 100 non-Hispanic Blacks (16.5%)
    • Nearly 17 of every 100 non-Hispanic Whites (16.6%)
    • Nearly 11 of every 100 Hispanics (10.7%)
    • 9 of every 100 non-Hispanic Asians (9.0%)
Note: Current cigarette smokers are defined as persons who reported smoking at least 100 cigarettes during their lifetime and who, at the time they participated in a survey about this topic, reported smoking every day or some days.

Thousands of young people start smoking cigarettes every day.1
  • Each day, more than 3,200 people younger than 18 years of age smoke their first cigarette.
  • Each day, an estimated 2,100 youth and young adults who have been occasional smokers become daily cigarette smokers.
Many adult cigarette smokers want to quit smoking.
  • In 2015:9
    • Nearly 7 in 10 (68.0%) adult cigarette smokers wanted to stop smoking.
    • More than 5 in 10 (55.4%) adult cigarette smokers had made a quit attempt in the past year.
  • Since 2012, the Tips From Former Smokers® campaign has motivated at least 500,000 tobacco smokers to quit for good.10
Note: “Made a quit attempt” refers to smokers who reported that they stopped smoking for more than 1 day in the past 12 months because they were trying to quit smoking. See CDC’s Quitting Smoking fact sheet for more information.
 

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About once a year, I hear of someone who has died by vaping essential oils. Supposedly it coats the lungs with oil and will block oxygen. So the vaper ends up suffocating to death and the hospital can't do anything to help. I have no idea if these stories are true or not. But in any case, it is probably a dumb idea to add essential oils to your juice.
 

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About once a year, I hear of someone who has died by vaping essential oils. Supposedly it coats the lungs with oil and will block oxygen. So the vaper ends up suffocating to death and the hospital can't do anything to help. I have no idea if these stories are true or not. But in any case, it is probably a dumb idea to add essential oils to your juice.

Many things in this world can be fixed or we have cures/vaccines for, stupid unfortunately is not one of them.
 

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People will all twist the facts to support their cause, it is human nature! Even back when we had truth in advertising laws and the morality police, things were stated in such a way to be legal, but not 100 % accurate. Now that the lawyers have totally screwed things up, people that pretty well claim anything! And support their claim with excerpts for a negative or positive - honest - report! Maybe we need another Wolf Man Jack broadcasting from Del Reo, Texas! He got away with his broadcasts by having the transmitter or the antenna in Mexico, although he personally was in Texas! He found the legal loop hole!
 

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This question will never be answered now or in the future. There are regular cig smokers over 40-50 years and die at their 95 years old without any problems, there are people who smoke and die after 20 years of smoking. However, one thing is for sure, the harmfull ingredients in eliquids are considered to be harmfull if you vape 80-100 years due to taken amount and it is just a prediction. Are you going to vape 90 years ?

About once a year, I hear of someone who has died by vaping essential oils. Supposedly it coats the lungs with oil and will block oxygen. So the vaper ends up suffocating to death and the hospital can't do anything to help. I have no idea if these stories are true or not. But in any case, it is probably a dumb idea to add essential oils to your juice.

I'm %100 sure that is not true. Essential oil molecules are so minute that when they are applied to the skin; they are able to pass through the skin and then goes into the blood stream. Currently essential oils are used for skin. That means skin in lungs can absorb the essential oil however I am not sure if it will effect the cholesterol in this case, as it is oil at the end and goes into blood stream.

People die from TAR in regular cig. TAR cannot be pushed out from the lungs or absorbed because some chemicals and TAR breaks feathers in bronchus which are responsible of pushing unwanted things out from lungs up to throat. That is why smokers get chronic cough as feathers are working to push the TAR out from lungs, but one day they stop doing it and that day you get COPD diagnosis.

On the other hand, almost all flavor west flavors contains kind of oils and there are people who already vaped over 6 years liquids that are made with flavor west flavors and their lungs are perfectly fine. However, it is safe to not to vape such flavors. But How ? Simply; by making your own ejuice at home.
 
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Most likely that vaping will be a factor in a few car accidents when a driver or passenger inadvertently chucks a blinding cloud. That's about the only way I can associate vaping with something life threatening.
I've done that to myself.
Accidentally blew a cloud over the dashboard, and into the windshield.
Had to pull over
 
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