how many pulls until you feel the effects of the nicotine? Or do you?

[the ob]

I have been vaping for a while. One of the things that I have issue with is the lack of the buzz that I used to get when using analogs. I understand that it will not be the same, but feel that I never really know when I am feeling the effects because of that lack of buzz.

How many pulls do you normally take during one session? Do you feel the effects of the nicotine? Maybe I am not using a strong enough strength.

I tried actually posting this in the newbie forum, but it would not let me. Maybe because I am not a newbie anymore?

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

[Darrigaaz]

When I was on 3.7v, I didn't feel a buzz, but I did get the nic cravings to subside after about 15 mins of continual puffing once the craving started. I felt like I needed to go up from 8mg to something stronger.

Now that I'm on 6v, I get a slight buzz if I puff for more than 30 minutes, and I feel craving subside within a minute of continual puffing. Now I am vaping 0 nic in between my 8mg so that I don't overdo it. I try to only puff on the 8mg when I get an actual craving.

 

[YKruss]

How many pulls do you normally take during one session? Do you feel the effects of the nicotine?

One session all day long - that's how I do it.

 

[the ob]

so would I be wrong to assume that it takes some time in each session before you feel the effects? I think my issue is that I use the device like a analog. I will just take a few pulls/drags and think I am getting enough. I am assuming that is not correct.

I never really feel anything. I am guessing I am doing it wrong. I also do not use a high nic content.

I am curious to get some more feedback. Thanks again!

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I think there are two reasons we don't feel the same "buzz" that we got from cigarettes:

We aren't inhaling any carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide binds to the red blood cells and blocks oxygen from reaching the brain. This makes us feel a "rush" or a "buzz" similar to holding your breath.

Nicotine absorption is slower with vaping than it is with cigarettes.

Even with using higher voltage and higher nicotine, the "buzz" might only be slight. I don't think you'll ever get the exact same feeling from vaping that you did from cigarettes.

 

[the ob]

woman of heart, then how do you know when you have had enough? How do you know when to stop? How can you decide what strength to use?

 

[birdbrains]

I try to smoke mine like an analog. If I've got an effective setup (a true 3.7v + a LR atty or carto does the job for me) then I can feel buzzed on a few strong pulls off of an 18mg juice. On my 808 it is not as easy to get that feeling but I can't walk around the city and in my office with a big batt so I try to use 24mg juice when using the 808.

 

[ViewAskewVapar]

One session all day long - that's how I do it.

+1 I don't think I have ever experienced a buzz from vaping but my non smoker friend sure has. He tried some 24mg C & D from AVE and his head was spinning, haha.

 

[Vapor Pete]

how do you know when you have had enough?

You know you've had enough when you dont want to vape anymore.

How do you know when to stop?

The time to stop is right before you fall asleep for the night.

How can you decide what strength to use?

You decide what strength to use when you no longer have cravings for cigarettes.

 

[zerominusone]

Just do it when you want to do it. I smoked 1 pk a day. There's 22mg nicotine in a pack so I got 24 mg e-liquid. I just take a drag off my 808 whenever I want to. It's the same with analogs. There is no way that's better than what you do. Do what you want/when you want.

 

[Cronus6]

I think there are two reasons we don't feel the same "buzz" that we got from cigarettes:

We aren't inhaling any carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide binds to the red blood cells and blocks oxygen from reaching the brain. This makes us feel a "rush" or a "buzz" similar to holding your breath.

Nicotine absorption is slower with vaping than it is with cigarettes.

Even with using higher voltage and higher nicotine, the "buzz" might only be slight. I don't think you'll ever get the exact same feeling from vaping that you did from cigarettes.

I think you nailed it with the carbon monoxide personally. I now notice that I get an entirely different feeling from analogs than I do vaping. I believe it's the carbon monoxide.

It's also worth considering that vapers aren't getting the ammonia compounds that we were getting in analogs. These compounds, when inhaled, cause the body to absorb more nicotine, and absorb it faster. Different brands and "styles" of analogs have different amounts of these compounds. (Marlboro for example, it is widely thought, use a LOT of them.)

IMO, you should "stop" when the craving or withdrawal symptom passes.

I'm curious to know what strength nic you are using, and are you buying juice, or using pre-filled cartos.

 

[Vapor Pete]

Sorry WomenOfHeart... didnt mean to step on that post. It was directed at you. I just couldnt resist

 

[the ob]

I think you nailed it with the carbon monoxide personally. I now notice that I get an entirely different feeling from analogs than I do vaping. I believe it's the carbon monoxide.

It's also worth considering that vapers aren't getting the ammonia compounds that we were getting in analogs. These compounds, when inhaled, cause the body to absorb more nicotine, and absorb it faster. Different brands and "styles" of analogs have different amounts of these compounds. (Marlboro for example, it is widely thought, use a LOT of them.)

IMO, you should "stop" when the craving or withdrawal symptom passes.

I'm curious to know what strength nic you are using, and are you buying juice, or using pre-filled cartos.

I am using somewhere between 6-12. This might sound super low, but the reason is that I had stopped smoking for several years. When I started up again, I started with a super low dosage because I was not sure where else to start.

That long break, might also be the reason for my confusion in the feeling. I just assumed I would feel like I originally felt when I smoked my first analogs. The feeling always went away, but as I said, I was confused because I assumed I would get a buzz after not smoking for so long..

 

[Cronus6]

I am using somewhere between 6-12. This might sound super low, but the reason is that I had stopped smoking for several years. When I started up again, I started with a super low dosage because I was not sure where else to start.

That long break, might also be the reason for my confusion in the feeling. I just assumed I would feel like I originally felt when I smoked my first analogs. The feeling always went away, but as I said, I was confused because I assumed I would get a buzz after not smoking for so long..

Honestly, and this is just 'me', but I don't feel ANYTHING at 12mg. 18mg is "okay" but I go through juice like crazy. I "need" 24mg to stave off my addiction and "feel" what I need to feel. (Plus, I get nice throat hit at 24mg regardless of how the juice is mixed PG/VG wise).

Next time you order juice why don't you try one of those places with the little 3ml samples? Try some different strengths and see if that helps you.

Addiction is a strange beast, just because you quit doesn't mean it ever really goes away. Once you start again you will shoot right back up to your old tolerance very quickly (this is more noticeable with alcohol and 'hard' drugs, but it still holds true.) This is why once people "go back" to smoking (or drinking) after a period of not, they are RIGHT back where they were within' a few weeks (or in some cases days).

I have to ask though, if you're not getting the "buzz" ... are you craving? Do you have withdrawal?

 

[jameth]

I find that of all my different devices and juice combos, the one that hits the most like an analog, and gives me an almost instant nic hit, is a smoketek dual coil carto, at 4.8 volts, with 18mg 90/10 pg/vg (some dekang tobacco wwith a little vg added).

That set up hits like a freight train, it is my absolute go to vape when stress is mounting.

Throat hit is almost identical to an analog and I swear I feel the nic rush within a couple puffs.

 

[Riggs-]

It seems like I take a pull every 5 to 10 minutes if I averaged it over the course of a work day. I'm using 18mg strength. Sometimes there will be hour(s) between pulls and sometimes I'll take 5 or 10 in a row.

I don't really feel anything except for that I don't have any cravings or such.

Riggs-

 

[mostlyclassics]

Said WomanOfHeart,

Nicotine absorption is slower with vaping than it is with cigarettes.

So true! For me, the nicotine absorption pattern with vaping is much more like puffing on a pipe than inhaling from a cigarette. It's a slower hit.

So, I totally chain-vape for the first couple-few hours of the day, then slow down somewhat for the remainder of the day. Especially if I over-nic myself (elevated heart-rate, slight dizziness, incipient headache), I'll take a couple of vapes then pause for up to half an hour.

That's one of the useful attributes of nicotine. The symptoms of over-dosing onset gradually, so there's a built-in warning system, with plenty of lead time, that tells you to slow down.

 

[markfm]

Generally I'll do 2 or 3 good inhales, then a couple minute break. If I feel like vaping again, I pretty much repeat it. That's one of the liberating things about vaping -- no "rush" about having to smoke the darn thing quickly, over just a few minutes' time.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Sorry WomenOfHeart... didnt mean to step on that post. It was directed at you. I just couldnt resist

No worries, Pete! I liked your answer!

 

[wrigleyvillain]

I swear I haven't gotten a "nic buzz" since 7th grade. Even after the strong Newport I bummed from the first smoker I saw after having abstained for 2 1/2 months while mountaineering on Outward Bound (yeah I was a dumb kid).