How many pulls???

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jazdale

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I'm feeling the nicotine, so I'm guessing that I'm taking in more as a vaper than a smoker.
My eyes bulge like your popeye avitar when I hit it too much.

My daily intake is about 3-5 ml on a ego-T.
My juices are 24mg. I've gone from full juice to half pg/vg and am starting to mix 2/3 pg/vg.
The downside is the loss of flavor, but I'm able to vape like an ape.

My new orders coming in are 18mg. We'll see how that works. Then we may cut it again.

My final tank of the day is pure pg/vg just to clean out the atty and fall asleep easier.

I can see doing zero nic some day just cuz i love vaping.
 

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Thank you all for the quick and kind comments. I'm really hopeing that I enjoy this experience a lot more with the bloog and Jet on the way.. cause this Njoy aint cuttin it.

Anyway, I'd still really appreciate if anyone knows how many pulls = one analog. I know e-cigs are much healthier, but nicotine can still be pretty harmful (particularly to the arteries and heart); why do you think it's so dangerous to get juice on your skin.

So basicly I want to make sure that I DON'T vape more nicotine than I've been smoking.

Again, thank you everyone helping the stray nube. :)

EDIT.... PS... does anyone know where to get a large variety of small bottles of e-juices at one place in a sample kit or something? I'm talking like 20 different flavors.. the more the better, as I've never tried any and don't know anyone else who does this. I know taste is subjective, so I want to try as much as possible, for as little as possible, to find something I really like, then start ordering more, and possibly DIYing.



PureSmoker.com - USA Electronic Cigarettes & USA Made eLiquid!!!

has a 23 flavor sample kit that I ordered when I first got my Prodigy. It was really cool being able to try so many different flavors. It really helped me zero in on the types that I liked and then I went out and tried similar flavors from other vendors to find the ones that I wanted to use most often. I still have a few of the 6ml sample bottles left and every once in while, I go back to one for a change. Believe it or not, juices can taste a lot different once they steep and after your taste buds come back (smoking analogs kills your sense of taste something fierce).
 

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Popeye

JuicyVapor.com has sample packs where you can choose your mg, pg/vg blend, and flavor in a variety of bottle sizes.

They have a current 15% off coupon good thru midnight Sunday 3.13.2011 EST. Use coupon code " Sunshine "

The only benefit over puresmoker's sample pack would be pg/vg blend and flavor choice. puresmoker.com offer is a great deal financially if the flavors look interesting.
 

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Popeye...try VapeRite's organic line...WOW! Todd has samples, as well...I think most juice vendors do, as they want you to try and try until you find the flavor that makes YOU happy. Todd doesn't any of the nasty stuff in ANY of his juice, but his organics are so clean...best I've tried so far!
 

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Some of the absorption rate is probably affected by how deep we inhale and how long we hold it in. I don't worry too much, other than when I was trying to make a bunch of DIY flavors the first time and vaped way too much, I haven't felt like I have overdone it. I learned after that to do all of my testing with just PG, VG and flavoring and then add nicotine when mixing actual batches to vape.
 

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I personally don't care about the nicotine.

As my doctor told my mother, he's not concerned about nicotine, it's the other chemicals in the cigarettes that cause the health issues.

I'm sure I'm addicted to nicotine and probably always will be. For me, this is a safe way to get it. I'm addicted to caffine too. I decided that at my 6 month point I'll try to slowly lower nic. levels. Provided it doesn't make me want to smoke. That's my goal with this- not smoking.
 

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I'm no scientician, but my research led me to the fact that nicotine ain't the bad guy in cigarettes. It's the thousands of other compounds that are evil. You won't get the hit same as a cig, but it tastes better and you can get as much nicotine as you want.
With the right hardware, you can get really big hits. You'll know when ya done gone too far...

Rosa, I dug up this little gem about MAOIs, it may help explain how all that other stuff in analog smoke works.
It's kinda technical and edumicatedey soundin', but here 'tis:

Human monoamine oxidase is inhibited by tobacco smoke: beta-carboline alkaloids act as potent and reversible inhibitors
by
Herraiz T, Chaparro C.
Spanish Council for Scientific Research, CSIC,
Instituto de Fermentaciones Industriales,
Juan de la Cierva, 3,
28006, Madrid, Spain.
Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 2005 Jan 14;326(2):378-86

ABSTRACT
Monoamine oxidase (MAO) is a mitochondrial outer-membrane flavoenzyme involved in brain and peripheral oxidative catabolism of neurotransmitters and xenobiotic amines, including neurotoxic amines, and a well-known target for antidepressant and neuroprotective drugs. Recently, positron emission tomography imaging has shown that smokers have a much lower activity of peripheral and brain MAO-A (30%) and -B (40%) isozymes compared to non-smokers. This MAO inhibition results from a pharmacological effect of smoke, but little is known about its mechanism. Working with mainstream smoke collected from commercial cigarettes we confirmed that cigarette smoke is a potent inhibitor of human MAO-A and -B isozymes. MAO inhibition was partly reversible, competitive for MAO-A, and a mixed-type inhibition for MAO-B. Two beta-carboline alkaloids, norharman (beta-carboline) and harman (1-methyl-beta-carboline), were identified by GC-MS, quantified, and isolated from the mainstream smoke by solid phase extraction and HPLC. Kinetics analysis revealed that beta-carbolines from cigarette smoke were competitive, reversible, and potent inhibitors of MAO enzymes. Norharman was an inhibitor of MAO-A (K(i)=1.2+/-0.18muM) and MAO-B (K(i)=1.12+/-0.19muM), and harman of MAO-A (K(i)=55.54+/-5.3nM). beta-Carboline alkaloids are psychopharmacologically active compounds that may occur endogenously in human tissues, including the brain. These results suggest that beta-carboline alkaloids from cigarette smoke acting as potent reversible inhibitors of MAO enzymes may contribute to the MAO-reduced activity produced by tobacco smoke in smokers. The presence of MAO inhibitors in smoke like beta-carbolines and others may help us to understand some of the purported neuropharmacological effects associated with smoking.

Ya don't suppose that the PhDs workin' in the labs of Phillip Morris and RJ Reynolds know about this, do ya?

Randyith has a blank stare like a deer having a spotlight in its eyes at night. Respectfully, ahhhh, what are you trying to say?
 

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Randyith has a blank stare like a deer having a spotlight in its eyes at night. Respectfully, ahhhh, what are you trying to say?

I think it basically says that the tobacco smoke creates a very effective "happy drug". When we smoke, we are taking anti-depressants. That's just one of the reasons it's so hard to stop smoking.
 

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Thanks Rosa, there's a lot of info to go over there. A bit intimidating though.

That blood work was pretty interesting too.. make me want to check my own!

Me too! I think this is very interesting for people that think they're vaping too much. This person was a pretty heavy vapor, yet the amt. of nicotine in their system was fairly low.
 

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I'm kinda surprise big tobacco companies haven't jump in "e-cig"/"e-liquid" business yet. It's better to buy "Malboro" e-mix made in Richmond,VA than somewhere in unknown location. And they could sell them next to analog cigs and customer will decide if he wants to buy 15$ e-juce or 2-3 packs of cigarettes (or may be both).
It will be interesting to hear President Obama's opinion on e-cig subject because the e-cig is the "greenest" technology as it only could be which is our President promotes all the time.
 
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It could be the e cig industry's ace in the hole to have the President of the USA use them...I hope they help him so he helps us! Maybe those in the industry that manufacture should start stocking up on product even more...can you imagine the demand far exceeding the supply if Mr. Obama made a positive public statement about them...everyone would be jumping into this! (Like all the delays and out of stock issues we are experiencing right now) But I'll betcha a million bucks if they keep him from smoking, his wife would never let this industry be regulated to extinction!
 

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Not sure about the nicotine... three doctors over three decades have told me that nicotine isn't a big problem for me, even though I've always smoked at least two packs a day. Most of that is because I usually go longer than a half hour in the morning before I smoke, I don't need to smoke if I wake up in the middle of the night, and I smoke more in the evenings than I do in the morning.

On another topic, I worry sometimes where my liquid is coming from, but I don't want to see Big Tobacco getting into the act. They would undoubtedly come out and say, "We'll price this competitively with full-priced cigarettes so as not to encourage non-smokers to take up the habit." The government would give them a prize for being "responsible corporate citizens" and we'd be paying $50 for a 30ml of liquid. (This actually happened with gum, patches and lozenges -- at least I remember the manufacturers saying that.)
 
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