How many vape 0 nicotine juices ?

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Vape mostly 0 mg nic here, occasionally 6 mg. (I get a major nic buzz and dizziness now when I try 12mg.)

It is very much worthwhile to vape 0. I went from 18mg, to 12, to 6 in a relatively short amount of time. It was much easier than I thought.
It is about the hand-to-mouth habit, the vaping 'ritual', the relaxation response that I associate with the ritual, and also the flavors!
I will likely continue to vape 0 for a long time to come.

The best part, I think, is that the craving for nicotine in vapor is far, far less than the craving for nicotine and the other addictive chemicals in a cigarette. You have choices: vaping or not vaping at all, and vaping 0 or low nic juices.
 

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I'm finding that I'm naturally spiraling down in my need for nicotine. I started with about 50/50 12 and 18 mg, with a single bottle of 24 to get me over the quitting hump. I know I'm still addicted to nicotine--I could feel the jitters a couple of days ago when I hadn't vaped for a while--but I filled up a tank with 18 mg yesterday and started getting a buzz after three hits. Going forward, I think I will not get anything stronger than 12 and will try ordering more in 6 mg--or even 0--to see how things go. Hand-to-mouth is still important, but much more so, I think, than nic levels at this point. (I also agree with the cleaner taste of 0--one of the local B&Ms does tasting with 0 and they always taste very good!)
 

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I always used 0 nic because I have never smoked regular cigarettes. I just like the taste when vaping. However, I got a free sample of 6mg nic, and tried it out of curiosity. While it has more of a throat hit than the 0 nic, it made me slightly dizzy and nauseous if I vaped it too much. I didn't dislike it, though.
 

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I'm actually surprised to see that more people on here don't vape @ 0mg. To me, I wasn't so much addicted to nicotine as I was the habit of picking something up and breathing through it.

That's what I enjoy about vaping 0mg. I still sometimes vape 3 or 6 if I feel like I need to, but I like always having a tank full of 0 mg that I can absent-mindedly puff away on while doing other things.
 

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If you were vaping 18mg which you thought was 0mg how would there be any difference when you went to 0mg?

This vendor may have been accurate about your knowledge surrounding liquid nicotine.

There was no difference. That's why I made the switch and it was so easy :D

As for my knowledge about liquid nicotine...well, I actually studied up on the stuff as well as just about everything involved in making eJuices for about 2 months. I like to know what I'm inhaling before I do so. Again, keep in mind that I worked for this vendor. They were storing their liquid nicotine at room temperature, in constant UV lighting, having the bottles sit for months at a time (6+ months). Though the nicotine never showed any physical signs of going bad, they had several complaints from their customers about the same issue - no nicotine buzz. They proceeded to ignore these complaints and serve what I believe to be "stale" nicotine - this occurs when nicotine is stored at varying room temperatures for extended periods of time causing the nicotine and PG mixture to condensate multiple times thus essentially leaving them with nothing more than PG on top and solid mass of nicotine on the bottom that is very hard to see in an amber/brown bottle.

Also, they did mention the fact that nicotine is absorbed differently into the bloodstream when vaping as opposed to traditional cigarettes. This is very true; however, when I first started vaping with good nicotine I would still get my nicotine buzz. After a while, vaping would give me no nicotine buzz and my tolerance for it was getting noticeably weaker - this was confirmed with my shrinking tolerance of nicotine absorbed through my hookah.

All in all, they received enough complaints about the issue from their customers and actually started to take my advice. They now store their liquid nicotine in a cold environment with little to no lighting. Granted this didn't help the first batch which had already gone stale, but future batches received no more complaints of the issue.
 
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It is about the hand-to-mouth habit, the vaping 'ritual', the relaxation response that I associate with the ritual, and also the flavors!

Yep, this..

Plus the inhale/exhale thing & the stress-reducing of watching clouds float & swirl about..

Even when you're down to zero-nic, there's still the habit of vaping to break (if you want to)...


I'm down to 1.5mg (mixing 0 & 3 at 50/50) -- and I still get nic buzzes oftentimes

Soon I'll be at zero, and will probably be there for a while..


Speaking from down here, zero-nic is definitely not pointless...
 

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I wonder if anybody has tried using the nicotine patch in conjunction with non-nicotine juice vaping?
I would think so, particularly diabetics, because the patch would deliver nic at a steady rate, which could be predictably counteracted with insulin or meds.
 

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Reading discussions on ECF for months has suggested to me that individuals vary widely in what's important to them re smoking and vaping. And to me, it really raises questions as to what about smoking makes it "addictive" to smokers; clearly, it is not all the same thing(s). There are people on here who vaped for several years and are now completely off cigarettes AND vaping. There are others who have vaped for several years, still use a significant amount of nicotine, AND still use the occasional cigarette. Some say if they had to stop vaping, they'd go back to smoking.

I smoked for 47 years and was as hopelessly addicted to it as just about anyone....couldn't stop. I've now been vaping exclusively for almost 8 months - no longer need the nicotine, don't feel like I "need" anything about it anymore, just enjoy the flavors and relaxing in the evenings with a vape....I buy 0 nic, still have some flavors containing various levels of nic, and occasionally vape those; can't really tell the difference.

So....I don't know....what I DO know is I'm cigarette free, thank God, and I'm nic-free, which I'm happy about as well. My health is better, and I'm not depressed because I'm doing something harmful to myself that I can't seem to stop doing....I wish nothing less for everyone who wants it!!
 

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I am at the 6mg of nic in my juices. I also chain vape ! I wonder if 0 nic vaping is popular.

I've been at 0 nic for awhile. Mostly, what I miss about that is the throat hit. And Boba's Bounty doesn't come in 0 nic.

When I moved to 0, I spent a couple of months vaping 3mg first. I'd buy 6mg juice, and 0mg juice, and then mix them 50% each. I probably didn't need to do it as long as I did, but I'd been using nic for over 30 years, and I was honestly a bit scared to go without it. I just didn't think I could. Eventually, someone I trusted told me "The difference in 3mg and 0mg is so low, you won't notice". And he was right. Going to 0 from 3 wasn't a problem. I think I've been off nic for 9 months or so.

I may go back to a low level of nic. 6mg probably. I'm still vaping, so "I'm going to stop" isn't a good reason to stay off the nic. I know I *can* go to 0 nic if it's important. And most of the reason I had for getting off the cigarettes do not apply to stopping vaping. Nic isn't a major health risk on it's own. So I may go back to low levels of nic. For now, though, I'm at 0 nic.
 

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KODIAK™;13140926 said:
If I could vape 0 nic juice I'd just quit vaping. That would be true freedom. I can only imagine what that would be like each day; just leaving the house with only your car keys and maybe a chapstick. :D

I understand. But I don't think it's as easy as you think.

When I went to 0 nic, I thought the same thing. I thought that if I went to 0 nic for a month, it would be easy to quit.

But it's not. The habit is still there. For almost 40 years, I've either smoked or vaped. So even though I'm no long using nic, I still have that habit, and if I don't vape, I feel it.

It's not as bad as when I smoked. Not long ago, due to some dental work, I went 24 hours without vaping. But I didn't like it. When I was smoking, that never happened. Even when I had dental work and they told me "no smoking for 24 hours" I'd nod "yes", then as soon as I got into my car I'd lite a cig, even with my mouth still numbed up.

One of my biggest trigger times is right after a meal. And I notice that's not as strong as it used to be. Sometimes, after a meal now, I don't vape at all, even though I have my PV with me and I'm in a location where I can. Sometimes now I simply don't feel the need, don't think about it, so I don't. But even though it doesn't come as often, if I stop vaping, sooner or later I *do* feel the urge.

So I've been just continuing to vape when I want, and hoping the urge just continues to die on it's own. I think I *could* quit vaping, but I had a bunch of reasons to quit smoking, and those don't apply to vaping.
 

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To my great surprise, after smoking for over 35 years, I lost my addiction to nicotine over 3 years ago now. For over 3 years now I've vaped 0 mg juice most often, but I do sometimes enjoy vaping some 2-6 mg juice. I treat nicotine the same way I've treated caffeine for many years, most often drinking decafe coffee but occasionally enjoying a cup or two of caffeinated coffee. :)

Even through I lost my addiction to nicotine over 3 years ago for the first year or two of loosing the addiction IF vaping were taken away from me I couldn't have said with conviction that there was NO way I would ever smoke again. I hope I wouldn't have, but I'm not entirely sure. Even using 0 mg juice there were still occasional times I still felt a real need to vape my no-nic juice. Today I have no fear of ever returning to smoking even if I stopped vaping tomorrow. I enjoy the relaxation of vaping and see no reason to stop, but I do it totally because I choose to, not in any way because I ever feel I need to. :)
 

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An acquaintance of mine who works for a large agri-business told me about their health insurance changes which are soon to come. She said that the employees are going to be weighed and tested for nicotine. If an employee is "obese", they will pay an insurance surcharge. If an employee tests positive for nicotine (through a mouth swab), they will also pay an insurance surcharge.
 
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