How much is too much? Please any thoughts Help lol

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Gat

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I just talked with my rep and he says I am vaping far too much I was vaping 18mg and 10 ml a week and this week I got my tank and went through 10 mls in about 6 days and he says it is too much.:confused: I won't have to put up with him much longer. I just needed one more bottle from him to get me bye. I have an order of 50 mls on the way could be here tomorrow but most likely Monday Tuesday the latest unless it gets tied up in customs that Beci at bestecig.com is very nice and helpful, so anyway it got me thinking. I thought hey I will ask my friends here at ECF and see what they have to say about it, in any case he sold me some 24mg PG this time. I don't like the vapor production of this PG I really prefer VG and now I can't wait for my order but at least this will get me bye without resorting to analogs.Any thoughts guys awaiting your wisdom.:laugh:I figure I will buy now 1 bottle every two weeks from my rep since he did credit me the unit, I want to keep him in my good graces in case I need an emergency bottle while waiting on orders from Beci.
 
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Who is this "rep"? Why do you care about what he thinks? If he's a sales rep, if anything, he should be encouraging you to vape more. From my reading on this site, seems like people vape anywhere from 2-5 ml a day. I personally use 3ml per day @ 24mg nic and above. Also not sure if advertising that someone marked it incorrectly to get it past customs is a wise thing :?:. You're not vaping too much.
 

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Who is this "rep"? Why do you care about what he thinks? If he's a sales rep, if anything, he should be encouraging you to vape more. From my reading on this site, seems like people vape anywhere from 2-5 ml a day. I personally use 3ml per day @ 24mg nic and above. Also not sure if advertising that someone marked it incorrectly to get it past customs is a wise thing :?:. You're not vaping too much.

Thanks for replying I was wondering if it was too much to me it seemed fine he is a sales rep for a store and yeah he says it is too much and that he once cut a guy off that he thought was vaping too much just because he is able to make 1.1 ml a day last doesn't mean that is for everyone is what I was thinking and I was thinking the same thing whats it matter I am giving you more money.If I smoke 20 bucks of fluid or 50 bucks he shouldn't care and just sell me what I want when I want right. But yeah thankfully I won't have to put up with it much longer my order should be here any time lol.
 
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His advice might have a lot to do with the whole Canadian "4MGs per dose" law. Liability. It does sound like a US vendor though. Still he may not want to be ruffling any feathers.

If not I actually got to hand it to this rep guy. for him to put your well being above is sales says a lot.It may be he is just a good guy.

I do however wonder myself if it is in fact too much. 1 ml a day at 18 MGs a day is comparable to a pack of cigs to the best of my knowledge, So that is almost double the amount. I think a doctor would be the only person who could give you the proper answer
 
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I vape between 1.5 and 2 mL a day, with different nic content. This about the same as what you do.

My line of thinking goes like this: If you assume that the nic content is 18 mg across the board, this will be vaping the equivalent of 180 mg nicotine a week (or about 26 mg nicotine a day over 7 days). How much of that you actually absorb is debatable, but even if you do absorb 80% of it (about 20 mg a day), that's the equivalent of a pack of "full strength" cigarettes (lots of litterature cites about 1 mg/cigarette).

I was smoking more than that before I started vaping. Compare to what you were smoking.
 

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I vape between 1.5 and 2 mL a day, with different nic content. This about the same as what you do.

My line of thinking goes like this: If you assume that the nic content is 18 mg across the board, this will be vaping the equivalent of 180 mg nicotine a week (or about 26 mg nicotine a day over 7 days). How much of that you actually absorb is debatable, but even if you do absorb 80% of it (about 20 mg a day), that's the equivalent of a pack of "full strength" cigarettes (lots of litterature cites about 1 mg/cigarette).

I was smoking more than that before I started vaping. Compare to what you were smoking.
 
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Tanks and LR attys/cartos tend to use juice faster. But 1-5-2ml per day is what many people would consider moderate. I use slim 510 and KR8 and vape about 1.5 ml per day.

Maybe your rep means he's afraid of getting in trouble or you getting in trouble if you are buying a lot of juice over the border.

My first order is on the way the rep I am talking about comes right to my house and sells to me here
 

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I vape between 1.5 and 2 mL a day, with different nic content. This about the same as what you do.

My line of thinking goes like this: If you assume that the nic content is 18 mg across the board, this will be vaping the equivalent of 180 mg nicotine a week (or about 26 mg nicotine a day over 7 days). How much of that you actually absorb is debatable, but even if you do absorb 80% of it (about 20 mg a day), that's the equivalent of a pack of "full strength" cigarettes (lots of litterature cites about 1 mg/cigarette).

I was smoking more than that before I started vaping. Compare to what you were smoking.

From what I gather if your smoking 18 mg juice 1 ml contain 18 mg. I was smoking cigs that contain 2.5mg so the question to figure out the ratio .would be is that 2.5 mg per cig or per pack?
 

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I do however wonder myself if it is in fact too much. 1 ml a day at 18 MGs a day is comparable to a pack of cigs to the best of my knowledge, So that is almost double the amount.
Some studies have shown we may be absorbing as little as 10% of the nicotine from vaping.
And some here find flaws in those studies and think they may be getting as much as 40% of the nicotine from vaping.

So, for example...

Let's say you're using 18mg strength liquid, which is 18mg of nicotine per milliliter.
If using 3ml per day of 18mg strength liquid, you would theoretically be getting 54mg per day assuming 100% absorption.

But taking absorption rates into account you will only be getting anywhere from 5.4mg to 21.6mg of nicotine per day.

And that would equal anywhere from about 5 to 43 cigarettes.
Because the amount of nicotine absorbed from real cigarettes is anywhere from 0.5mg to 1.1mg, and some are even more.

So really it all depends on which cigarettes we are talking about, and how much we really absorb from vaping.
 

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I just found this at Thank You for NOT Smoking: Cigarette Composition Cigarette packets must include a statement of both the tar and the nicotine yield per cigarette on the packet itself. So it sound like the composition of a cigarette that is printed on the side of the package is rated per cigarette so at that equation 1 mil that contains 18 mg is about 7 smokes.Unless my math is way wrong today lol.
 

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Some studies have shown we may be absorbing as little as 10% of the nicotine from vaping.
And some here find flaws in those studies and think they may be getting as much as 40% of the nicotine from vaping.

So, for example...

Let's say you're using 18mg strength liquid, which is 18mg of nicotine per milliliter.
If using 3ml per day of 18mg strength liquid, you would theoretically be getting 54mg per day assuming 100% absorption.

But taking absorption rates into account you will only be getting anywhere from 5.4mg to 21.6mg of nicotine per day.

And that would equal anywhere from about 5 to 43 cigarettes.
Because the amount of nicotine absorbed from real cigarettes is anywhere from 0.5mg to 1.1mg, and some are even more.

So really it all depends on which cigarettes we are talking about, and how much we really absorb from vaping.

and I used to smoke about 50 analogs a day now using 1.4 to 1.7 ml of 18 mg juice so is it too much??
 

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His advice might have a lot to do with the whole Canadian "4MGs per dose" law. Liability. It does sound like a US vendor though. Still he may not want to be ruffling any feathers.

If not I actually got to hand it to this rep guy. for him to put your well being above is sales says a lot.It may be he is just a good guy.



I do however wonder myself if it is in fact too much. 1 ml a day at 18 MGs a day is comparable to a pack of cigs to the best of my knowledge, So that is almost double the amount. I think a doctor would be the only person who could give you the proper answer

No he is a Canadian Vendor as I said he come right to my home to sell me my juice.Maybe that's why the other vendor marked no nic content
 

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From what I gather if your smoking 18 mg juice 1 ml contain 18 mg. I was smoking cigs that contain 2.5mg so the question to figure out the ratio .would be is that 2.5 mg per cig or per pack?

Gat,

You are correct, 18 mg, is equivalent to 18 mg in 1 mL of juice.

From what I understand, the 2.5 mg content is the total in a cigarette (between 2 and 3...). It seems that when you smoke, you actually absorb between 0.7 and 1.1 mg per cigarette (depends on what kind of cigarette and how you smoke).

Happy math!
 

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....I do however wonder myself if it is in fact too much. 1 ml a day at 18 MGs a day is comparable to a pack of cigs to the best of my knowledge, So that is almost double the amount. I think a doctor would be the only person who could give you the proper answer

This is totally incorrect. Vaping is far less efficient that smoking in delivering nic to the system. And 1ml a day is NOT close to a pack of analogs.
 
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