How much is "too much"?

[jesssnc]

Hi all, been lurking for a few weeks, even since I got my 510 starter kit around 8/2 (have since gotten a Volt also). My last analog was the day after my 510 came, and I have no desire to have another. I've read a lot of the health studies and truly believe this is a *relatively* safe way to feed my nic habit.

I quit a one pad habit (more when drinking of course) to vape, I vape 12-18 mg. juice on average.

Here's my "problem": I like vaping a lot. A whole lot. I think I'm overdoing it. I definitely have dehydration issues despite drinking water like a fish. I won't say how many mls a day I'm vaping...what would you say was "too much"?

I've also been feeling "weird" this past week. Not sure if it's the vaping or the associated alkaloids etc. clearing from my system. Anyone else familiar with this? Or have I finally, after almost 30 (dear god!) years of smoking, found a better way to OD on nicotine 'cause I apparently have no self control?

 

[swedishfish]

About how much are you vaping? The average person goes though between 3-5 ml per day.

If you feel really bad, you could slow down on the vaping. But most people do vape more in the beginning and usually taper off. You could lower the nic level if you really like vaping a lot.

Edit: 3-5 per day, not 3-5 per week. Sorry about that!

 

[JC Okie]

It's not unusual to vape a LOT more than you smoked....especially early on. I think the "average" is around 3ml per day....but I know I go through about 6 ml a day....so average doesn't necessarily mean that much. I think for the most part the consensus is to vape as much as it takes to keep the urges for cigs away. I've been doing this for over a year, and it does taper off. The reason I vape 6ml now is because I've recently dropped my nic level yet again and when I do that, I usually vape more for a while. When it levels off again, I may drop it again....or not....

You could very well be detoxing still...listen to your body and if you think backing off a little would make you feel better...give it a try. My pv is pretty much glued to my hand, but when I'm out and about or doing something besides sitting here at the computer, I can put it down for hours.

Hope this helps. Keep drinking that water. Water is good for you even if you didn't vape....

 

[couch magnet]

hu maybee up the dose and try not to vape so much, i found that by vaping to little nic it leaves me wanting more. just a thought but i'm a noob good luck!

 

[Morandir835]

Jesssnc (sir or Ms.?) I go through between 8-12ml's of 24-36mg juice a day... Your body will tell you when it's too much, just watch for all the signs of nic overdose (hiccups are one of the first, shaky hand or knee, a lot of the same signs you had too much caffine). Once you remove the 4000+ chemicals from analogs that help deliever the nic past the blood brain barrier faster, you'll find everyone absorbs nicotine differently, and require different amounts. Have friends who smoked 3 pad of marlboro reds and only go through 2ml's a day of 4mg, other who smoked capri menthol who now vapes 5-6ml's a day of 36mg liquid....

 

[MasonD]

When I first switched, I noticed lots of weird things; insomnia, concentration, &c. You may want to lower the nic, but it's good to keep in mind that the cigarette related toxins and what not will take weeks and months to clear. My own approach was to write off everything for the first month or so, to the ditching of the smokes-- I may have gotten a cold along the way, and if I did, I'd blamed the smokes. Maybe not the smartest thing in the world, but that's what I did.

After a few weeks, you get to know your new nicotine base-line, and will probably settle into yer vaping nicely. That said, here's some links:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/211345-new-users-nicotine-strength-questions.html (from the library, here)

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html (sticky from the health and safety forum)

 

[JC Okie]

About how much are you vaping? The average person goes though between 3-5 ml per week.

If you feel really bad, you could slow down on the vaping. But most people do vape more in the beginning and usually taper off. You could lower the nic level if you really like vaping a lot.

You mean "per day"....right, swedishfish?

 

[x-smok3]

3-5 Ml per week?? I may be overdoing it myself as I go through AT LEAST twice that in a week. I have not had any vape related issues other than dry mouth when I forget to drink enough. I would say I have only really overdone it once when a vaping friend and I got together the other night and compared flavors. We both started to feel a little nic-woozy that night :/

 

[MasonD]

She probably meant per day. I know I vape in that range... I've heard of some people who vape more...

 

[JC Okie]

She meant to say "per day"....really.

 

[Needo]

I vaped overly hard my first few days, because vaping wasn't giving me that something extra that a cigarette does. That urgent craving does go away for longer periods of time before popping back up again. You’ll most likely vape a little less tomorrow.

 

[Luvs5rugrats]

I use anywhere from 2 to 4ml in a day. When I first started, I was probably around 6 a day (on a standard atomizer, so that's quite a bit) because I used it as a pacifier for a good while. Slept with it, too. I still have it very close by all the time but don't "need" it like I did before. Now, I basically use it as necessary, more so when I'm just sitting around watching tv or something.

I would say that since you're in your first month, don't worry about how much but do watch your water intake and if you start to feel kind of icky, cut your nicotine down. I over-vaped on some 24mg juice (sooo tasty!) and had to put my pv away for about 4 hours and lay down. If you do start like you're getting too much nic, you'll know it. You'll get nauseous, light-headed and just generally feel bad for a while.

I have no self-control, either, so I'll join that club with you.

 

[swedishfish]

You mean "per day"....right, swedishfish?

Yes!! Sorry, I better edit that quick!

 

[LadyLynx]

Probably depends a lot on the nic strength too. I vaped about 6ml yesterday but mostly 6mg because I just felt like vaping all day with friends. Other days I may only vape 1-2ml of a 15mg juice. Just watch for the warning signs and take a break, otherwise I wouldn't try to ration while getting off the analogs...

 

[swedishfish]

3-5 Ml per week?? I may be overdoing it myself as I go through AT LEAST twice that in a week. I have not had any vape related issues other than dry mouth when I forget to drink enough. I would say I have only really overdone it once when a vaping friend and I got together the other night and compared flavors. We both started to feel a little nic-woozy that night :/

So sorry!! I meant 3-5 per day! Not per week.

Don't want to scare you!

 

[x-smok3]

LOL glad to hear it, I got to thinking about how many empties I have in my tin and I am probably close to 4-5ml a day. I wasn't worried but for a second there felt like some sort of vaping freak of nature

 

[jesssnc]

Phew! Since Morandir is still alive I feel a bit better about my usage
My "symptoms" are not at all what I'd expect to feel from excess stimulant, I'm actually very lethargic, mild aches, spacey head, almost feel like I'm coming down with something but not really getting sick. Immune system overdrive, if you know what I mean.

The darn thing is glued to my hand too, when I'm not working w/ public. I conservatively estimate I'm between 6-10 ml/day. I try to use at least half 12 mg but I'm still obviously taking in well above what I was smoking, nic-wise. Funny thing is I don't crave analogs AT ALL, while smoking I could go all day if circumstances required going without and not have a fit. Now I just want my yummy vapor.

I will happily chalk it up to all the other nasties that were coming for a ride in my analog smoke. Hopefully they will move out soon! I knew i could count on you all for advice, this is an awesome board!

 

[swedishfish]

I wouldn't worry unless you feel really sick. I mixed juices and started with 18 and was vaping too much and felt a little sick. I think it was from the flavoring. I upped it to 24 and vaped a little less and was OK. I even had some 30 around for first thing in the morning. After I couple weeks I didn't use that at all and bought more juice and diluted it.

 

[swedishfish]

Phew! Since Morandir is still alive I feel a bit better about my usage
My "symptoms" are not at all what I'd expect to feel from excess stimulant, I'm actually very lethargic, mild aches, spacey head, almost feel like I'm coming down with something but not really getting sick. Immune system overdrive, if you know what I mean.

The darn thing is glued to my hand too, when I'm not working w/ public. I conservatively estimate I'm between 6-10 ml/day. I try to use at least half 12 mg but I'm still obviously taking in well above what I was smoking, nic-wise. Funny thing is I don't crave analogs AT ALL, while smoking I could go all day if circumstances required going without and not have a fit. Now I just want my yummy vapor.

I will happily chalk it up to all the other nasties that were coming for a ride in my analog smoke. Hopefully they will move out soon! I knew i could count on you all for advice, this is an awesome board!

You're not smoking, you don't crave cigs and you like vaping! I call that a win!!

 

[Morandir835]

Jesssnc the first week is always rough, your body is adjusting to getting just nicotine, and you're withdrawing from all the other chems. Once you get past the three week mark, it gets easier.