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ned Zeppelin

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I tried this boiling the atomiser palaver because people seem to be getting good results from this so I thought I'd try it anyway.
I had two
Generic pen style atomisers which we bought from the smokester and we had been using these for 6 weeks.
I done the usual soaking it in water and using the mouthwash and also the vinegar which did help slightly at the time but eventually whatever I did nothing worked so we ordered 2 more which worked okay and now have a seem to have stopped working.
So I have put these away for a while and got out the nonworking ones out so I got the old saucepan out boiled up the water and put them in full five minutes boiling then take them out and rinse in cold water then put them back in to boil for another five minutes I did this in total three times.

Took them out left to drain for an hour blow excess water out then but some juice in to absorb for half an hour then taking a few light drags to get some vapour and the atomiser warm slightly also leaving them up right so they didn't get dry then put this down for 15 minutes then do the same again.
Then I blew the excess liquid out then left overnight with new cartridge in.


Then after a few drags all came good so these have been performing good for the last two days so who knows what will happen next.
Warning please don't eat these like you would boil in the bag food as they tend to be a bit dry as you get no gravy with these
 

smoking gnu

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There is a review somewhere on the sedansa site, someone said they use the steam from their espresso machine to clean out the pots, I think it was in French I had to google translate it. Suppose to work though. Be very careful if you try this, don’t blame me if you scald the skin off your hands, or anywhere else for that matter.
 

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I agree MNZ, when the cost are $10 it is no problem to replace each month 2.
But the elite brands with around $30 per pop sux. I would hope that the brand atomizer would stay a little longer in shape.
i would not even mind to spend $100 for an atomizer with non corrosive platinum coil wire/mash and without the plastic fiber inside. They should last 1 - 2 years.

The only hting is that it is the fiber that is wrapped in the wire that goes bad, not the wire- at least on some atomizers- I'venot seen any fiber in the loongtotem atomozers though, but the wire coil is wrapped by a fiber abotu and inch in width, and several inches long, a different concept that other atomizers, but that fiber even burns and ruins the whole assembly- the penstyle fiber is a small piece of 'something' wrapped i nthe coil itself, and when it burns out, the atomizer no logner works and ya get that awful taste.

I'm sure sometimes the wire itself burns through, but of all the atomizers I've taken apart, it's the fiber in the coil of wire that has gone bad

for an atomizer that is still working, but is getting harder to draw, and not producing as good a vapo, probably blowing in the battery from the led end & heating the atomizer that way, is the best method of burnign off the gunk that may have built up- it's hard to force neough air htrough, but if you keep at it until ya see a little vapor coming out hte atomizer, it will burn off hte crap buildup a bit, but don't do htis too long as it will taste awful when you inhale for awhile. Just got to experiement with how long to force the air through the battery and into the atomizer- it'slike the 'self-cleaning' programmed into the battery itself, but it doesn't 'burn the gunk' for quite as long as the self-cleaning does and won't taste nearly as bad if you do a controlled cleaning this way.
 
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SmokingInTexas

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Ok, just my opinion, but I think there are TWO things going on...

For me, when the draw is reduced, I believe that it is the air-intake holes (1/2/4) becoming plugged by the.....gunk? Sometimes blowing air from the battery side (after plugging the center hole with a toothpick) seems to restore much of the "draw" issue for me.

When vapor is reduced, I suspect that it too is caused by...gunk, but on the material inside the coil.

For both cases, I have boiled the atomizers and they have all returned to like brand-new functionality and ease of draw.
 

Ruby

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Based on what Nazareth is saying could that yukky burnt taste we sometimes get be the wick in the coil?
Seems to me if this is why the atomisers fail the manufacturers should be looking at better materials to put inside the coil?
I noticed last night when I steam cleaned the atomisers after I'd got out loose gun there were very tiny little burnt fibers on the paper towel. Might just be deposit but might have come off the wick.
This method is still holding up 3 cleans later - gets mine back to new, but if it is the wick degrading I suppose in time I'll have to replace the atomisers anyway.
 
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SmokingInTexas

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Again, no facts here....but...

I find that the burning taste for me occurs at two times. One, when I start to dry the atomizer out a little too much. Since I drip, that's when I know it's time to add some more juice. I am careful NEVER to keep hitting the cig when I even get a hint of that taste (as I think thats what is killing atomizers so quickly for many people, again, a suspision).

The other time is after the auto-clean cycle. I actually have used a manual auto-clean (that sounds funny) using the Janty manual switch. (I feel the battery auto-clean last TOO long to be good for the atomizer, especially if it isn't full of juice) I have found that helps an atomizer produce better vapor. I suspect it is burning the "gunk" off the coil. However, you DO need to make sure there is juice in the atomizer when you do it, AND you do have to tolerate the bad taste for a few hits. When that doesn't improve the vapor, that's when I know it's time for a boiling, which has worked every time for me.
 

Kit

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Again, no facts here....but...

I find that the burning taste for me occurs at two times. One, when I start to dry the atomizer out a little too much. Since I drip, that's when I know it's time to add some more juice. I am careful NEVER to keep hitting the cig when I even get a hint of that taste (as I think thats what is killing atomizers so quickly for many people, again, a suspision).

The other time is after the auto-clean cycle. I actually have used a manual auto-clean (that sounds funny) using the Janty manual switch. (I feel the battery auto-clean last TOO long to be good for the atomizer, especially if it isn't full of juice) I have found that helps an atomizer produce better vapor. I suspect it is burning the "gunk" off the coil. However, you DO need to make sure there is juice in the atomizer when you do it, AND you do have to tolerate the bad taste for a few hits. When that doesn't improve the vapor, that's when I know it's time for a boiling, which has worked every time for me.

auto clean cycles are good as long as you only use them now and again..there basically there to burn the crud off..i use the auto clean on the bling about once or twice a month texas works a treat !
 

ted26

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Been trying all sorts of different ideas to extend the life of my atomizers and believe i have got it sorted for now :thumb:

After 3 days of refilling my penstyle cart i notice that the liquid from the atomizer starts to discolour the filler a dark brown colour and you can hear the liquid inside start to glug as it gets thicker!

This is time to half fill the atomizer with water 4 to 5 times in a row shake vigorously and empty contents.

then you flick the atomizer untill all water is gone(like hitting a drum), you will be suprised how much water she holds!

3 drops, new cart, 10 puffs and hey presto shes like new

Its been working for me so far and would like anyone to try it and give feed back :D
 

deewal

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I'm getting sick of this. Just had another "autoclean" happen and as far as i'm concerned once that has happened then the atomiser is useless. The taste and smell are bloody awful and there is no ooomph left in the thing and it does'nt come back. The battery also takes a beating when it happens and it also stinks and if i put that battery on to another atomiser (even with a new cart) i can still taste and smell that awful mess.
As far as boiling, washing etc i have followed both the "boiling in the pan" method and washing as you have described. The results are 3 stone dead atomisers. I'm using the Classic Penstyle and carts from e-cigs uk and i can't fault the service at all. They all start out fine until the dreaded "autoclean" or "auto****" as i call it. As i said before in a post somewhere, one of the atomiser's actually expanded so any cart i put in it just wobbles around. The other big, big problem is the Batterys. I have always got at least one on charge and it may have escaped your notice but the price of Electricity is rocketing. There has got to be a better designed battery before this product is viable. I don't understand why it's not possible after all there are people in Nasa talking about putting people on Mars. What are they gonna use for Electricity? Very long cables?
Sorry for the rant.
Having said all that i still hav'nt had a real cigarette since i started using these things and that's got to be about six weeks. I was smoking 30-40 a day.
 

SmokingInTexas

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deewal,

I have been boiling my atomizers for some time, and have 3 that have been boiled a bunch of times, and all still work great. Are you being sure to prime them with juice (after they are blown-out and dry a little)? You have to make sure not to ...activate a dry atomizer as the coil will overheat and fry.

It's a bummer you've lost 3 this way, but I suspect it's the technique, though, it could also be bad atomizers (from what I have read). And I do agree the auto-clean thing is a HUGE mistake, but only in that it runs too long. I use a manual auto-clean (with the Janty manual switch) from time to time. It does improve performance and it only takes a couple puffs to clear out the bad taste. When it auto-cleans, it takes a BUNCH of puffs to get rid of the taste.

Hang in there, it takes a while to get the swing of things. And...I'm now 22 days Analog Cig Free!!! Woo Hoo!!!
 

nycboy

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I amazed, I followed the advice here and put one that was completely dead and I put it in boiling water for 5 minutes (two times) and it came back to life and is vaping just like a new one. The first time it just let out a bit of smoke so I boiled it again and to my amazement it is as good as the new replacement that I got. Thanks to all of you for that great advice.
 

EricD

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Well, I went on a small rampage a little while back reminding everyone to clean their atomizers. I just rinse under warm water, blow out excess water manually, then blow dry till its thoroughly dry. Afterwards, I get a significant increase in vapor. Usually, I can tell when i need to clean when my vapor lessens markedly. Once cleaned, my pieces tend to get much much better. That's my 2 cents.
 

Jimbob

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GREAT advice on this thread!

My Janty Classic, after only 2 weeks, began producing only about 20% vapor (I think their chocolate flavor caused it since right after it began)... but at any rate, I did the boil trick.

I filled a sauce pan with 10 parts water to 1 part vinegar, then put my atomizer on a wooden spoon to keep it off the bottom and in the middle of the boiling water, and let boil for 15 minutes.

Upside is that WOW, 100 vapor back now!! Downside? Took me close to an hour to re-prime it with fluid for some reason, and a little bit of the paint on it flaked off (nothing a magic marker can't fix).

Let me tell you, the stuff that came out of it was ODD. It looked almost exactly like glue. Same consistency anyway. I missed wiping a spot off and afterward I literally needed to chip it off the threads of the atomizer.

Anyone else ever experienced this? I had no particles or other gunk, just the gluey substance. I think it was dried out glycerine. Like what dish soap does if you leave it in an open bottle for a year, turning into a hardened mass of glycerine.

Anyway, bottom line is THANKS for this thread!
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