How to DIY for Non Water Soluble flavors?

[SnusAndSnuff]

I ordered a kit, some nicotine and a lot of flavorings from Loranne (sp?). Some of those, as indicated by the sticky in this subforum, are not water soluble.

What is the best way to handle non water soluble flavors for DIY?

Thank you.

 

[Renolizzie]

Non water soluble flavors are generally not recommended for DIY as far as I know.

 

[Hoosier]

Well the good news is that juice is not made of water and it is actually mostly alcohols like PG so just because something is not water soluble does not mean it is not soluble in juice. The bad news is that some flavorings just do not like to mix with PG and some plainly hate mixing with VG, but usually some PGA mixed with that flavoring will help.

I would recommend using more soluble flavorings though if at all possible. Lorann's is a minor player in most DIY mixer's stashes. (There is probably a reason for that...)

 

[SnusAndSnuff]

Oh so the large order I made last night with many non-water soluble flavors from LA is bad?

Ok, regardless, Mint/Menthol flavorings from all the sellers are not water soluble.

Isn't there a way to mitigate the whole problem, my mixing it with ethyl alcohol first and then mixing that wth PG?

 

[Rule62]

Personally, I don't use any flavors that are not water soluble.

 

[ninfreak]

Oh so the large order I made last night with many water soluble flavors is bad?

Ok, regardless, Mint/Menthol flavorings from all the sellers are not water soluble.

Isn't there a way to mitigate the whole problem, my mixing it with ethyl alcohol first and then mixing that wth PG?

yes it mitigates the problem, but most of the flavors that are not water soluble are oil based. many oil based flavors are dangerous to inhale. there are exceptions though and i use a few. do yourself a favor and not use them till you learn more about diy and read the stickies fully, not just the first post!!!!!

 

[Hoosier]

Oh so the large order I made last night with many water soluble flavors is bad?

I'm not sure where this is coming from...

Ok, regardless, Mint/Menthol flavorings from all the sellers are not water soluble.

Right, kinda'... Menthol crystals are usually dissolved in PGA or PG to be used as flavoring.

Isn't there a way to mitigate the whole problem, my mixing it with ethyl alcohol first and then mixing that wth PG?

That's what I said. PGA means Pure Grain Alcohol, or ethanol, aka: ethyl alcohol. You can hover your cursor over the abbreviations and meanings will popup.

 

[Kurt]

Another issue with oils is the lungs have a harder time expelling them. In large enough amounts this can lead to a particular type of pneumonia. But there have been no reports I am aware of as yet of anyone vaping getting this. On the other hand, it generally takes so little oil to strongly flavor a juice (mints especially) that it is probably a moot issue. A mint juice I used to buy from Vermont Vaper had about 2 drops of mint oil per 30 mL of juice, and it was still quite strong.

And some oils, like cinnamon or clove, are actually reactive and corrosive. I personally avoid oils. 100s of great flavors out there without as much risk.

 

[Bosco]

I did the same as you - ordered a bunch of oil based flavors in my first DIY order. I chose not to use them - but they are good in coffee and other foods from time to time - so not a total loss