How to use portion snus properly

[exogenesis]

I was wondering if being a snus beginner, I was using them wrong.

With Thunder Frosted portions, I start with one under by top lip on one side,
burns a bit too much so shift it to the other side,
then have to move it to bottom lip, than under tongue and round again.

Strikes me that under the top lip, the juices start to trickle down my throat,
giving an irritating burn, leading into the lungs, where I don't want it too.

But under the tongue, it causes massive amounts of distracting salivation.

Under the bottom lip it feels 'too big' & unwieldy.


Are there different shaped snus, apart from minis,
e.g. long & thin that can go under the top lip more comfortably?


Or am I just doing it wrong ?

 

[olderthandirt]

Hey exo,
For an "overall" on sizes and types look through this:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-strength-levels-ir-confused.html#post654397

Stubby addressed this very recently elsewhere, the salt factor! Swedish snus uses a good bit of salt as a preservative and flavor enhancer. A new user will have elevated salvia from the salt alone. This does pass in time.

Proper use? Traditional is upper lip. Real world, whatever works.

Regardless the salt or other flavorings, more saliva will be produced under the tongue, less in the lower lip, least of all under the upper lip.

I do as you describe, roll a portion around, place it in each side, usually upper but it hits the lowerdeck as well. I move it around and squeeze a portion with my teeth all to make sure I get every last bit of flavor out of it!

The amount of saliva you currently realize using the Thunder Minis in the upper lip should reduce in a few days.

 

[exogenesis]

OK, think I'd better get some TF minis then.

Thanks for the link, certainly clears up some confusions I've had with the terminology ,
didn't know about the 'spraying' thing at all.

Suprised Kitabz's thread didn't get a lot more 'exercise', reckon it should be a sticky.

Maybe there's a market for 'long & thin' snus portion shape,
certainy would make it stay in place more easily.

Can't imagine squeezing these between teeth, must get pretty messy

 

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

I don't seem to have any problem with the General Dry Mini Mint staying put. Some of the others seem to me to get slippery. Maybe the dry lend themselves better to sticking where they're placed?

Having something to drink when you first put one in helps also (especially with any mint or peppermint... ahhh the burn!!). LOL I've usually got a cup of coffee or tea going.

I do wonder when you say you feel a burn down your throat though Exo. That doesn't sound right!! I don't find that sensation at all (only briefly at the spot where the mini/portion is placed at).

Have you had any allergies to foods or additives? Might be an indicator? I have a friend who can't vape 1/2 the liquids out there because of some flavoring additive (yet unidentified) and her tongue and throat burns.

Glad you posted that link OTD, I hadn't seen that and now it has eliminated my Dumb Question #2-5. LOL

 

[olderthandirt]

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Suprised Kitabz's thread didn't get a lot more 'exercise', reckon it should be a sticky.

Maybe there's a market for 'long & thin' snus portion shape,
certainy would make it stay in place more easily.

Can't imagine squeezing these between teeth, must get pretty messy

Stubby or Twisted should jump in here, I have the impression that Swedish Match's Lab 0102 series are long and thin in comparison to the "standard" snus portions.

As for kneading the portions with my teeth being messy, the watch word is gently


Edit: Oop, Hi Helen, didn't see ya sittin' up there

 

[exogenesis]

Reckon there's a huge difference between the dry & wet snus in regard to staying in place,
but I find the dry ones too slow (so far) & they feel a bit 'wrong' somehow.


Don't think I'm getting any burn reactions to anything but the nicotine,
I think it's just the 'dribble effect' of the juices (that sound slightly wrong somehow).
No allergies afaik (except cat hairs)

Sounds like the flavouring burns is a bit of a pain, can't think what that would be,
(except methol maybe), perhaps your friend could correlate the juices
and see what's common somehow?



Swedish Matches Lab 0102 look interesting
SnusOn.com - Snus Forum :: View topic - 01 02 The Lab Series

The long portion was developed specifically for the Lab Series and we really don't know if it will be adopted into other brands.

The portions are moist but trough a new innovation from the lab they are drip free like white portions. In essence this new technology has enabled us to produce a product which have the feeling of an original portion but with the no dripping characteristics of a white portion. 01 & 02 is a fusion of different characteristics from the two formats.

will have to have a look around...

 

[Stubby]

I think what you're talking about is called drip. Not to be confused with dripping on an e-cig, but the heavily flavorful saliva from snus. White portions will drip less then original, but its relative as all snus will drip, even the no drip 0102.

As far as the burn goes the mints and wintergreen are by far the worst, though for me the bergamot can also burn a bit. When I first started with snus it was camel frost and mellow. I got a blister from the first frost portion I used. It took a few days to heal. After that my gums toughened up and no problems. I would definitely stay away from the mints and wintergreens until you get a bit more experience. 01 is a mild snus with little to no burn.

The thunder frosted is both a minty type and an original type portion. For your problems, and I'm not completely sure I understand them, go with a white (but 01 or 02 is okay) in a non-mint or wintergreen. That may go a long ways to solving the problem. You might just need to toughen up a bit as things will get better once you adjust.

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Howdy exo . For the most part I've found the best place for my portions is toward the back above the molars, usually on the left side. I alternate and sometimes use the front (recommended...), but the rear upper is the most natural and comfortable location for me. And the minty ones do burn. I don't mind a little burn in the rear (that sounds even more wrong), but in the front it's downright painful for me.
As for the portion shape and size, the Lab series is right on the mark for me. Regular portions aren't comfortable, seem bulky and unnatural. I'd assume with continued use this becomes a non-existent problem, but Lab series is slimmer and longer, so it feels natural from the start. Hope this helps .

 

[exogenesis]

OK so it seems the mint/wintergreen enhances the burning then,
but I can't stand the 'classic' snus with no added flavouring (yeck).

Are the fruit flavours strong enough to make them palatable,
e.g. Bergamot (orange/lemon/citrus?) flavour ?

Looked up Thunder Frosted mini's & they're the same price for 10g as
the (strong) portion ones are for 24 g, I guess most of the cost is
per-portion production & packaging costs

Tried the Ooomph whites (6mg) and felt very dissatified after TF,
but less throat drip-burn.

Currently one TF portion gets used (taken out and put back in later)
3 or 4 times over 4 hours or so, so that's pretty good value.

It seems northerner.com only sell Lab 01 & 02 in 'natural' flavour,
which is a shame (for me).

Where do you get your Lab series from TV, & do they do flavoured ones?

Actually I guess you can add you own flavour with Lorann food flavours,
or is there a gotcha trying to do that?

Is there a mini-lab series ?

(run out of questions - for the moment )

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

It's a dilemma. The Lab series only comes in a mild tobacco flavor. Adding flavor has been discussed, but nobody's tried that I'm aware of, although I really like 'em. The 02 is my mainstay for work. No mini's of the Lab, either. The Thunder Frosted mini portions are great for discrete usage and pack a pretty good punch for a mini, but yeah, pound for pound you get more of your money's worth from the regular Thunder. If I do 02's at 13mg all day, the mini at 8mg is a good way to end. Stubby seems to be content with milder flavors also, so hopefully, we'll both get a review from him. Also, OTD has done alot of expermentation in flavors and can be very helpful .

 

[Stubby]

Twisted got to most of your questions so don't have much to add. In general I like the milder snus, but I do lean heavily towards the non-flavored so I don't know how much I can help. One thing I've found is that the lab 0102 is about the most non-offensive snus out there for a non-flavored. Even less so then Ettan white. Doesn't even smell bad. Don't know what other snus you've tried but this one is a bit different.

The other thing to keep in mind is that your gums will toughen up as time goes on and you may be able to tolerate the mint/wintergreen snus a good deal better in a few weeks.

 

[exogenesis]

Thanks guys, this all sounds quite hopeful.

So, I'll get some TF minis (sounds like a guaranteed win)
& some Lab 02's, & if I find even the 02's gross I'll try some Lorann.

Could end up with a 'best way to DIY flavour your snus' look-see,
could imagine injecting say 1/5th ml Lorann into middle of snu-packet, maybe.

 

[kodykills]

I forgot i had a mini mint in one night. i put it in going out side with my telescope to view saturn. I almost froze to death so i came back in, and didnt realize it was there till i went to brush my teeth before bed