How well do 510 atties hold up at 6v?

[RjG]

My view of 510:

3 puffs of flooded.
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "ick, burnt" .... wait a bit
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "wispy and burnt"
Top off the cart and start over

That's manual mode powered by a 14500.

The two or three good puffs are damned glorious... but good grief these
are the most finicky/hot/juice starved atomizer I've ever tried.

How in the world are you guys making these work at 5 or 6 volts ?!?

 

[Moonflame]

My view of 510:

3 puffs of flooded.
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "ick, burnt" .... wait a bit
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "wispy and burnt"
Top off the cart and start over

That's manual mode powered by a 14500.

The two or three good puffs are damned glorious... but good grief these
are the most finicky/hot/juice starved atomizer I've ever tried.

How in the world are you guys making these work at 5 or 6 volts ?!?

Pyramid Tea Bags instead of filler. I haven't (so far) had it run dry and I can fit about 8 drops in when it starts tasting the slightest bit burnt. I fill until the liquid is level with the top of the cart and hold the cart vertical while I slide the atty straight down into it. I have found that some flavors work better at 6v than others. The light fruity flavor seem too harsh at 6v so I use them at 3.7 when I want to vape more often ( I like to sit and sip on it constantly ). I like the heavier flavors, like the really strong coffee I have, at 6v when I want to take a few hits and be able to be set for 15 to 20 mins.

 

[Robert]

Yup... My harshness was coming from the end of the plastic cart at 6V!! (Melting) - Be careful...LOL

Respects

The cart opening needs to be alligned to the white (hot ) ceramic part of the atty (see how they are the same shape?) - in the 510

 

[quovadis]

Never tried a 901.
Only 510 and 801.

What's a 901 like?

 

[funkybozu]

My view of 510:

3 puffs of flooded.
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "ick, burnt" .... wait a bit
1 puff of "yahh, that's alright".
1 puff of "wispy and burnt"
Top off the cart and start over

That's manual mode powered by a 14500.

The two or three good puffs are damned glorious... but good grief these
are the most finicky/hot/juice starved atomizer I've ever tried.

How in the world are you guys making these work at 5 or 6 volts ?!?

that mainly because the 510 sucks at 3.7V, at 5V or 6 its great
no juice in mouth, you will have to top off much more since higher Vs
consume a phenomenal amount of liquid, but then my 6V produces
clouds of vaper

 

[breno]

I think it is worth mentioning the relationship between voltage and power,
power is proportional to the voltage squared, so the power rating of
3.7 volts is about 13
5.0 volts is about 25
6.0 volts is about 36
7.0 volts is about 49

So you can see there are some huge increases there basically doubleng and trebling and quadroupling vapour production respectively.

I am assuming you get vapour proportional to the power, which seems reasonable amd it seems some of you have noticed those massive increases in vapour output.
So you need to be aware you might be going from say one pack a day to four packs in analog equivalants!!
That's quite a leap!!

 

[mnealtx]

I think it is worth mentioning the relationship between voltage and power,
power is proportional to the voltage squared, so the power rating of
3.7 volts is about 13 6.8 watts
5.0 volts is about 25 12.5 watts
6.0 volts is about 36 18 watts
7.0 volts is about 49 24.5 watts

So you can see there are some huge increases there basically doubleng and trebling and quadroupling vapour production respectively.

I am assuming you get vapour proportional to the power, which seems reasonable amd it seems some of you have noticed those massive increases in vapour output.
So you need to be aware you might be going from say one pack a day to four packs in analog equivalants!!
That's quite a leap!!

I corrected your numbers, assuming a 'standard' 2 ohm atomizer for a 510. You forgot to divide by the resistance. Still an appreciable change, regardless.

For myself, I think the 510 tastes best around 4.5v - I get a couple good puffs at 5v, then it gets TOO hot and starts tasting burnt.

 

[Moonflame]

I know that when I use my 6v mod I take 3 or 4 puffs and put it down for 30 mins or so. If I'm using my 3.7v mod I puff on it most of the time, so I doubt I'm increasing my nic intake too much. I'm glad I have both so that I can choose which suits the occasion. There are times I want to vape a lot and times when I like being satisfied with a few puffs. Plus some flavors work better at 3.7 and others work well at 6. I can keep them both loaded up and grab whichever suits my fancy.

 

[breno]

I corrected your numbers, assuming a 'standard' 2 ohm atomizer for a 510. You forgot to divide by the resistance. Still an appreciable change, regardless.

For myself, I think the 510 tastes best around 4.5v - I get a couple good puffs at 5v, then it gets TOO hot and starts tasting burnt.

Yea I didn't know the resistance so I just too it as 1 ohm.
Given it is 2 ohms it should be possible to put a resistor in series to bring down the voltage from a 5V USB supply to 3.7V?

Say normally you have 3.7/2 amps = 1.85 amps which seems fairly high.

So you would want 5/x= 1.85 thus x=2.7 ohms so you would need a 0.7 ohm resistance which would disipate 0.7 x 1.85^2 =2.4 watts.
Which is not a great deal of heat to deal with. I would imagine.

 

[framitz]

I just measured resistance on 3 510 attys. Two read 2.6 to 2.7 ohms and the third reads 3.5 ohms. all purchased at the same time and about equally used.

The difference bugged me so I measured my three never used spares, all read 2.5 to 2.7 ohms, so I'm thinking that 2.6 is the normal resistance.

The one with the higher reading seems to work fine. I'm currently using 3.7 volts on battery and pass through.

 

[mnealtx]

Breno - I my (admittedly) limited experience, the atomizers seem to perform best around 1.5a current draw - I think that is why the 510 seems to be such a fog machine, because it is consistently running 'hotter' than the others due to the lower resistance.

Framitz - I measured a half dozen of my spare 510 attys - all were between 2.0 and 2.2 ohms - even the one I've been using the last 6 weeks or so reads 2.1 ohms.

Weird, huh?

 

[NekoGurrl]

I've found that my favorite voltage on the 510 is in the 4.5 - 5.5 volt range. Made a copper tube based mod that I called the DuraLog (using Janty Dura atomizers at the time). Started out with 6 volts with 2 CR123a's and found that I smoked it just like an analog, short puffs (1-2 seconds) and got a great throat hit / vapor production. However it went thru juice like no tomorrow (dripping). So I added a resistor inline, first .49Ω then 1Ω. The results, the .49Ω resistor didn't change the vaping experience much, but did cut back the juice usage to something more reasonable. The 1Ω brought the voltage down a bit low, about what I found with just a freshly charged 18650 (around 4.3 v).

So I'm happy with right around 5v using the .49Ω resistor. What really surprised me was that the all the time I was using the 510 with the stock batteries I would have to take a long draw, and would quickly over heat the atomizer. At 5v, I take much shorter draws and rarely get that burnt taste, till I'm low on juice.

The 510 has really become my favorite atomizer, although for long vaping (driving) I'll go with the 801 since I don't have to drip as often.

 

[breno]

Breno - I my (admittedly) limited experience, the atomizers seem to perform best around 1.5a current draw - I think that is why the 510 seems to be such a fog machine, because it is consistently running 'hotter' than the others due to the lower resistance.

Framitz - I measured a half dozen of my spare 510 attys - all were between 2.0 and 2.2 ohms - even the one I've been using the last 6 weeks or so reads 2.1 ohms.

Weird, huh?

The one I just tested read 2.2 ohms.
Framitz's seem a bit high but maybe he is taking the wrong reading.
Mine actually read 4 ohms but a short circuit reads 1.8 ohms so I take that off.

 

[quovadis]

They are all ok
2.7 ohms is about normal for a 510.

3.6 ohms for an 801.

They do vary +/- a few ohms

 

[mnealtx]

My 510 that I've using for the last 2.5 months finally kicked over...reading 1.3M.

*moment of silence*

 

[breno]

I've found that my favorite voltage on the 510 is in the 4.5 - 5.5 volt range. Made a copper tube based mod that I called the DuraLog (using Janty Dura atomizers at the time). Started out with 6 volts with 2 CR123a's and found that I smoked it just like an analog, short puffs (1-2 seconds) and got a great throat hit / vapor production. However it went thru juice like no tomorrow (dripping). So I added a resistor inline, first .49Ω then 1Ω. The results, the .49Ω resistor didn't change the vaping experience much, but did cut back the juice usage to something more reasonable. The 1Ω brought the voltage down a bit low, about what I found with just a freshly charged 18650 (around 4.3 v).

So I'm happy with right around 5v using the .49Ω resistor. What really surprised me was that the all the time I was using the 510 with the stock batteries I would have to take a long draw, and would quickly over heat the atomizer. At 5v, I take much shorter draws and rarely get that burnt taste, till I'm low on juice.

The 510 has really become my favorite atomizer, although for long vaping (driving) I'll go with the 801 since I don't have to drip as often.

The power is proportion to voltage square so going from 5v to 6v
is like going from 25 to 36 which is almost doubling the power (44% more) and hence the vapour even though you only increased the voltage by 20%

 

[breno]

My 510 that I've using for the last 2.5 months finally kicked over...reading 1.3M.

*moment of silence*

Wow that quite an increase, and about a million tmes less vapor
Stiil 2.5 months is a fairly good innings.

 

[Jason365]

Just a note on 510 life at high volts. Iam running 2 3.7 cr123's getting 8+ volts and am going on 4 weeks with 1 atty.

Jason

 

[mnealtx]

Just a note on 510 life at high volts. Iam running 2 3.7 cr123's getting 8+ volts and am going on 4 weeks with 1 atty.

Jason

And .735 second drags?

 

[Jason365]

I can do 2-5 sec drags, any more and it tastes burnt. Also it needs 3-4 drops for about 3 good puffs. I just keep it really wet. almost gurgling.

Jason