Dang, that sucks! Sure wish you could join the party. Don't fret Angus their is always a seat available when the mail person finally decides to pay you a visit.
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Thank you Ike, I am proud to be one of your beta testers
I know that my posts are not as Tech-ish ( I know that is a real word and this is not scrabble..lol) as the guys are, I am trying to be as honest and thorough as I can be
I learn a lot from Switch and mwa and enjoy reading their posts, they put into words the results much better than I ever could.
Please do not fret over this. Your observations are equally important and well formulated. Please do not worry about the technical aspect of things. It is just a measure I decided to add so Isaac can formulate an opinion on perhaps what is happening under the hood, that is all. Call it an engine analysis of sorts.
Now that is interesting and does indeed explain allot. How do you measure amp draw, do you have an Amperage checker??
Interesting on the amp draw under load measurements how are you hooking up your meter to get this. I have amp draw on my meter but I would think you would have to have a special hook up to pull this measurement
I did something else tonight and found another great vape on these carto's. Since KR8 Batts are stronger and put out more then 510's do amp wise they dial in @ 4.2, I hooked up an adapter to a brand new charged and conditioned KR8 Batt. These run very very nice on the KR8 for sure and put out a really nice vape
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My passthrough is adjustable and has a display for the voltage and amps unloaded and loaded. I also tried it on my Buzz and another VV mod.
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I thought for sure you would have got them by now. Thats no way for USPS to be treating our forum manager. Sorry Angus but just think, You got brand new ones and nobody else does.
That's what I figured, these would be great for KR808D and some of the other 3.7 devices out there and the VV mods too.
Aww you are sweet, I am not much of a fretter
I will just consider myself the voice for the non techish people...
Holy rusted metal Batman! That's some sweet gadgetry! Did you ever make a thread on more info of this amazing device?
Great write up! Extremely thorough to a whole new level.
Jeez it's been in Atlanta since the 7th. I think something Definitely has happened Angus. They lost two of them already? Thank goodness hat they recovered one atleast! They need to stop hiring Temps! LOL Post offices are closed today, but we'll give it till Wednesday and if it hasn't moved. I'll send you out another package (with insurance!) I wonder what on earth is happening over there.
Being Thanksgiving today, I am taking a break from testing. I need a change up of flavours 
Ya I posted a little when I got it. I need to take some pics of my new mods one of these days and post them.
I think we may have some vaping postal workers in Atlanta.
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The silver carto has finally bit the dust this evening. Vapour production has dropped off to negligible and the carto gets hot.
In loving memory of a great vape, a post mortem will be conducted in the am to look into its sudden demise.
In loving memory of a great vape, a post mortem will be conducted in the am to look into its sudden demise.
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Test results for silver 510 from Ikenvape
liquid used is Hilton 24mg. PG
Voltage and amps are loaded values
The first thing I noticed on this one is the amp draw is quite a bit lower than on the black 510 so I'm going to start this test at 3.7 and go up.
3.7 volts at 1.01 amps.
This really puts out mass vapor at this level and has a good taste. Throat hit is minimal
3.9 volts at 1.07 amps.
Flavor is good, throat hit is also good but on the weak side. Vapor is again massive.
4.1 volts at 1.13 amps.
Flavor is still about the same. Vapor is still massive and throat hit is getting better.
4.5 volts at 1.24 amps.
The flavor is starting to get very good. Vapor is amazing and throat hit is good now.
5.0 volts at 1.36 amps.
The flavor is starting to warm up. The vapor is increasing and throat hit is still good.
5.5 volts at 1.48 amps.
Flavor is beginning to go down but still manageable. Vapor is remaining about the same and throat hit is get a bite to it.
6.0 volts at 1.53 amps.
It was just too hot so I topped of the carto and I was back in business. The flavor was great. The vapor again massive and the throat great too.
6.5 volts at 1.64 amps.
Flavor is starting to go downhill a little. vapor is still great and the bite is coming back to the throat hit.
6.6 volts. at 1.70 is again too hot to vape.
This one puzzles me because I seen that other testers said this one was hotter but I had the oposite. It obviously works at higher voltage levels better than the black one. It would be good for 6 volt vaping as long as you keep it topped off. I think it would be a good carto for the HV mods IMO.
At no time did the outside of the carto get hot to my lip like many others do without the paper on them. Another thing I noticed is this really puts out clouds of vapor.
liquid used is Hilton 24mg. PG
Voltage and amps are loaded values
The first thing I noticed on this one is the amp draw is quite a bit lower than on the black 510 so I'm going to start this test at 3.7 and go up.
3.7 volts at 1.01 amps.
This really puts out mass vapor at this level and has a good taste. Throat hit is minimal
3.9 volts at 1.07 amps.
Flavor is good, throat hit is also good but on the weak side. Vapor is again massive.
4.1 volts at 1.13 amps.
Flavor is still about the same. Vapor is still massive and throat hit is getting better.
4.5 volts at 1.24 amps.
The flavor is starting to get very good. Vapor is amazing and throat hit is good now.
5.0 volts at 1.36 amps.
The flavor is starting to warm up. The vapor is increasing and throat hit is still good.
5.5 volts at 1.48 amps.
Flavor is beginning to go down but still manageable. Vapor is remaining about the same and throat hit is get a bite to it.
6.0 volts at 1.53 amps.
It was just too hot so I topped of the carto and I was back in business. The flavor was great. The vapor again massive and the throat great too.
6.5 volts at 1.64 amps.
Flavor is starting to go downhill a little. vapor is still great and the bite is coming back to the throat hit.
6.6 volts. at 1.70 is again too hot to vape.
This one puzzles me because I seen that other testers said this one was hotter but I had the oposite. It obviously works at higher voltage levels better than the black one. It would be good for 6 volt vaping as long as you keep it topped off. I think it would be a good carto for the HV mods IMO.
At no time did the outside of the carto get hot to my lip like many others do without the paper on them. Another thing I noticed is this really puts out clouds of vapor.
Uhh, maybe there is hope! I really want to try a carto which will perform well at 6V since my main PVs are all mechanical and I prefer 6V vaping. Thanks for the report 5card!
So sorry for your loss switched.......a moment of silence....
Day 4
Both of my catros are still alive.
I have been using these MAINLY on 5V, Stompbox & SB (PT reads a little lower and the SB a little higher) and they are both still vaping, although I am leaning more towards the black one.
The black carto seems to stay cooler and the flavor of the juice stays truer, the vapor production has waned a bit along with the TH but I am sure that is because it needs cleaned. We have to remember cartomizers are not meant to last.
The silver one I am having less luck with, it gets pretty warm and the flavor of the juice seems duller, it is still producing vapor but very little throat hit, and from time to time I get that harsh dry kinda burned taste, but the filler is not burned. Maybe I am not topping off enough?
I am not sure if cartos are designed different or the same, other than the colors, they both appear to LOOK the same and read the same on the meter, so is there a dfference in the design?
I am still trying to figure out why when it tastes like it needs to be topped off it will only accept about 10 drops before it floods, I understand that means that there is still a lot of juice left inside that is not being used....but why?
Thats all for today, have a great evening everyone.
Day 4
Both of my catros are still alive.
I have been using these MAINLY on 5V, Stompbox & SB (PT reads a little lower and the SB a little higher) and they are both still vaping, although I am leaning more towards the black one.
The black carto seems to stay cooler and the flavor of the juice stays truer, the vapor production has waned a bit along with the TH but I am sure that is because it needs cleaned. We have to remember cartomizers are not meant to last.
The silver one I am having less luck with, it gets pretty warm and the flavor of the juice seems duller, it is still producing vapor but very little throat hit, and from time to time I get that harsh dry kinda burned taste, but the filler is not burned. Maybe I am not topping off enough?
I am not sure if cartos are designed different or the same, other than the colors, they both appear to LOOK the same and read the same on the meter, so is there a dfference in the design?
I am still trying to figure out why when it tastes like it needs to be topped off it will only accept about 10 drops before it floods, I understand that means that there is still a lot of juice left inside that is not being used....but why?
Thats all for today, have a great evening everyone.
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Hey Isaac, can you enlighten us with your wisdom please? What is supposed to be the internal construction difference between the black and the silver cartos which are being tested currently? Thanks in advance.
Ya but you have to keep them topped off. But if you do they really work great. At least this one does. I'm using it right now at 5.0 volts and it's vaping great, I really like this one.
You know I think this might just be my biggest problem, I am making a note to top off more often.
Aw Switcher a holiday and a funeral! Why do these things always tend to fall in lineBeing Thanksgiving today, I am taking a break from testing. I need a change up of flavours
Happy Thanksgiving though! I hope you guys up there had a nice warm beautiful meal.
Yes sir Vp, (like the name change? lol) The Silver internal coil is constructed with the same type of setting as our HV 3.5Ω 510 atomizers. I was thinking about the significant change in the environment on the inside the cartomizer as it needs to be taken into account. So I had the internal coil raised a few decimals in the Black version in attempt to properly harness the high voltage.
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