I almost wish I hadn't looked

[elfstone]

Uhmmm.... that's bad news. I started with V2 and they took me off the analogs and kept me off for almost a month. Their flavors aren't ideal (from where I stand now), but absolutely vapeable, and the performance of the device is ... you know, a very good KR808 for what is worth. Even so, I exchanged the auto ones immediately because the one manual I had was so much better!... So if they're auto, that can be an issue, too... Their pricing and marketing strategy sucks, but not the device for its class. So... let's hope she either didn't use them correctly or needed more ooomph (i.e. nicotine, throat hit) and she didn't know how to get that.

Go ahead, try them and let us know....

The 24 mg juices you have coming are certainly potent enough, and with LR cartos on KGO there will be plenty of oomph...

 

[thinkingaboutit]

That'll work ok as long as you use a good carto with it.
I've got some V2 batteries and was using Kanger horizontal coil cartos with them....

KR808D-1 blank cartomizer - package of five stainless

That's what I was hoping! Thanks

I started on a V2 and except for the price they are the equal to a Volt...

I'm glad it isn't a waste. I see if nothing else a battery and chargers.

Uhmmm.... that's bad news. I started with V2 and they took me off the analogs and kept me off for almost a month. Their flavors aren't ideal (from where I stand now), but absolutely vapeable, and the performance of the device is ... you know, a very good KR808 for what is worth. Even so, I exchanged the auto ones immediately because the one manual I had was so much better!... So if they're auto, that can be an issue, too... Their pricing and marketing strategy sucks, but not the device for its class. So... let's hope she either didn't use them correctly or needed more ooomph (i.e. nicotine, throat hit) and she didn't know how to get that.

Go ahead, try them and let us know....

The 24 mg juices you have coming are certainly potent enough, and with LR cartos on KGO there will be plenty of oomph...

I am counting it as good news...for a few reasons:
1. Her carts are 12mg-too weak for how much we smoke from what I read.
2. She treated it like an analog-when I had her try it right (as right as I can explain), she said "that's much better".
3. RE-usable parts (and hey, it's a "spare" if nothing else)
4. I haven't smoked in two hours, which is no great feat...but I really don't mind playing with this...it is doing something.
5. It has me super excited fof mine based on #4.

Now...how the hell do I know when a cartridge is dead? No more vapor?

One more thing-I am seriously amazed I am vaping inside! The convienience level alone is going to be exciting! Remember, I live in MN and we have horrible winters most years.

 

[xbassman]

you got it...
When a carto is giving up you get diminished vapor or they get a really stiff draw.

 

[Bad Wolf]

I have one that is similar to the v2 and love it so far. As long as you have some good juice you be golden. Been off analogs for about 2 week. The best strategy is consider it as a change in brands of cigarettes and that helps with the transition a lot better.

 

[elfstone]

Excellent!

You do realize that I am purposefully looking at the less relevant half of the glass, here, right? I mean the bad vs. good news thing.

Anyway, assuming that you have no juice around right now, once the vapor diminishes, flavor as well and maybe there is a tinge of burned taste, that's when the carto is empty. If you had juice around, you'd aim at keeping the filler moist all the time by topping it off at the first sign of dwindling flavor. If you manage to stop before it actually tastes burned, then you'll have the chance to refill it. When a carto is "dead" - well there are two scenarios: less likely, if the coil pops it just stops working; more likely it will progressively gunk up and the draw will become tighter and the flavor funkier. It's up to you when you consider that unvapeable. There are ways to clean them, but I did that once and then I decided it wasn't worth the effort and mixed results.

You are a vaper, then! Congratulations!!! You're this close to be smoke free!

ETA: jjdemu, congratulations to you, too! May our family ever flourish!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Excellent!

You do realize that I am purposefully looking at the less relevant half of the glass, here, right? I mean the bad vs. good news thing.

Anyway, assuming that you have no juice around right now, once the vapor diminishes, flavor as well and maybe there is a tinge of burned taste, that's when the carto is empty. If you had juice around, you'd aim at keeping the filler moist all the time by topping it off at the first sign of dwindling flavor. If you manage to stop before it actually tastes burned, then you'll have the chance to refill it. When a carto is "dead" - well there are two scenarios: less likely, if the coil pops it just stops working; more likely it will progressively gunk up and the draw will become tighter and the flavor funkier. It's up to you when you consider that unvapeable. There are ways to clean them, but I did that once and then I decided it wasn't worth the effort and mixed results.

You are a vaper, then! Congratulations!!! You're this close to be smoke free!

ETA: jjdemu, congratulations to you, too! May our family ever flourish!

I realize, and I appreciate a realistic look at things

These carts appear sealed...but I don't care. I am seriously excited at this point. My girlfriend will be converting too, she is intrigued. This will take some getting used to, but I love the prospects.

I truly appreciate all the help, encouragement and advice I got so quickly!

 

[sailorman]

OK, she has a V2gics starter. Looks like an 808...so it might be stuff that can be re-used. It's the V2 economy kit. Looks to me like the battery and chargers can be used...and it can use other atomized cartridges. Thoughts?

E Cigarette Kits | Economy Kit | V2 Cigs

That's not the worst battery in the world. You can use any of the 808 cartomizers. The Volt uses a Kanger Horizontal coil cartomizer. You can get blank ones to refill with good juice economically. The biggest problem with the V2 isn't their battery, it's their ripoff prices and their lousy service.

If you're gf didn't like it, there's a good chance that with a better/different juice and cartomizer, she may change her mind.

That said, there's nothing you can do about the fact that a small battery doesn't last very long and becomes a giant hassle with all the charging required. The Volt has a 380mah battery, which is better than most, but still needs recharging after 3 hours or so.

A fixed voltage battery, will get you roughly 1hour/100mah. A variable voltage, like a Twist, will get you much less. A 650mah twist is reported to provide 3.5-4 hours of vaping time. An equivalent 650mah fixed voltage e-cig will get you 6 hours or more.

For maximum vaping time, you need a fixed voltage, large capacity battery.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

If your gf is a girly girl, there are pink Kgos out there for her and nail stickers for bling.
Vape on & keep comin back
Your friend
Bullette

 

[orchiolum]

My brother stopped by 3 weeks ago today with two batteries, two clearomizers, and two bottles of liquid. I had no idea that day that within 3 weeks I'd be trading a pack a day cig habit for vaping. Now I prefer vaping to smoking. My breathing is better, energy levels are up, and I don't smell like a raging fire. Vaping seems to have completely killed my urge to smoke.

In just three weeks, I've accumulated 8 batteries, 30 or so clearmizers (I use one for each flavor for now), and about 30 10ml bottles of juice for testing.

Steeping...some balk at it, others swear by it. My favorite juice right now is an RY-4. When I first tried it, it was awful...tasted of artificial chemicals. I put it aside for a few days (steeping). Five days later, it tasted better. A week after that it became my favorite juice. So if a juice doesn't do it for you right out of the box, set it aside for a few days or weeks and try it later. Worked for me.

My brother's visit three weeks ago opened an entirely new world of possibility for me. ECF has been an excellent source for the information needed to keep me off analogs. So much more to learn. No cigs for 12 days...I'm still smiling, and quite frankly, amazed.

Good luck!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

OK, great start...and earlier than planned. Since my GF brought her e-cig over I have had three analog (two because she went out to smoke and I was curious). For a starter, it's a great start. Can't wait till my kgo gets here!

A little reading helped a ton, for both of us. She took a few hits of her e-cig with my suggestions and it was far better. I am thinking I will end up buying her a kgo, and buying a couple volts for when we are out an about (yes, I know the look isn't desired by many...I've got to try my kgo before I know).

All I can say, is THANKS! I'm excited for the day I don't stink. When we hung out and watched a movie, it was so nice to reach over and grab the e-cig for a couple hits here and there. When she wanted to go to out to smoke, I did it not because I wanted to...so I can't wait till we are both vaping! It's amazing to me how easy the transition seems to be.

 

[pfaber11]

personally i would get a lava tube and some atomisers and try dripping. i only seem to get satisfaction above 6 volts . 3.7V just does not hit the spot for me . each to their own i suppose but if you want that satisfied feeling i would suggest more volts.

 

[ksnowman]

I'm curious because I belong to another forum that people seem to steer new people away from what they call knock-off brands of the ego. I have helped many people get set up with there first e-cig. Am I correct in saying that the KGO is another brand of Ego? It would seem that people in this forum have had good luck with it. What are people's thoughts?

 

[elfstone]

As mentioned above, I think, KGO is a "knock-off" eGo that isn't regulated at 3.3V. It proved to be a very good quality device that works reliably, so the fact that it's not Joye means nothing to me. It was tested by many reviewers and non-reviewers alike, including myself, and it starts at about 4 V under load and then keeps around 3.7 V for most of the charge before starting to wane. It is 1100 mAh for cheaper than the equivalent eGo. As a testament to the fact that 3.3 V is not enough for most people who come here, Joye recently made an "upgraded" eGo that has the option to switch to unregulated vaping so it works exactly like a KGO. So they "upgraded" it to match the "knock-off", pretty cool... But it is still somewhat expensive comparatively.

I don't know about other knock-offs, but my KGO worked (and still works) great, and is sold by suppliers who are trusted here. You can get it with cartomizers, even with clearomizers from the get-go, which is a huge advantage compared to the tank-atties that usually come with eGo-C / eGo-T / eGo-W and which are fiddly and difficult to use and we have constant feedback from new memebers saying that they have a bad experience with them.

Hope this clarifies the issue a bit.

 

[Scootawho]

I'm going to really quickly link you to a thread that helped me out a lot before I bought mine: http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/r1z4d/reddits_ecig_recommendations_thread_2/ ("laurie_ann"'s post towards the middle of the page is the one that ended up helping me the most, but all of the posts had great advice).

I personally own the same model of ecig as your first link. If you're planning to completely quit smoking, however (regardless of what vendor you go with), two things that I'd highly recommend (some people would probably even call them necessities): Get at least two batteries (the link you posted only contains one) and a PCC. I never smoked that much, so I don't run through batteries at a very fast pace, but what I've heard from people with heavier habits leads me to the understanding that running out of battery while you're out and about can be absolutely dreadful. Depending on how easily you slip back into the habit, this could be anything from an inconvenience to a nightmare.

From what I can find, it looks like their "Country" and "Cowboy" flavors are the same, just marked differently in different places (I hadn't noticed that before, odd). If you smoked Marlboro, I think you'd like this flavor; I've tried it, and it reminds me of Marlboro Virginia Blends. The recommendation for nic level is all personal preference. Even though I only smoked five or so a day (American Spirit blacks), I went with 24mg as my preferred level, because the higher the nic, the less often I feel I need to puff. Everybody's different, though (by my understanding, 24mg is generally what 2-pack-a-day smokers go to when they start). If you're going into it to quit, though, higher would probably be better. What I'd recommend getting is an assortment of flavors, though, to find what you particularly like. One man's poison is another man's ambrosia.

Good luck, and happy vaping!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

I figured out the problem my gf had. I charged the battery last night and the first hit was a killer. After that one I had to be careful, it was nowhere near as smooth as last night. It calmed down really quickly, but I can see a combo of that and trying it like an analog...I'd have been turned off too.

I haven't had an anlog yet today. My initial conversion is pretty easy...not counting it done, but it seems to be going well.