Seems that everyone here loves Drew and Steve and cartomizers.Thats alot to agree on.Lets maybe just let the rest go.I want to use both and not feel like Im doing something wrong.I love all 3.
I am going to say it: NHALER CARTOMIZERS
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Solid advice.
I just want to vape, analog free, have some camaraderie and maybe help others get off analogs.
Ya'll can keep the rest of the drama.
I just want to vape, analog free, have some camaraderie and maybe help others get off analogs.
Ya'll can keep the rest of the drama.
I have read a lot of posts, some saying all cartos brands are better some not. Think I read one saying that if you order enough you can change how the cartos are labled. Now, I have read one of Steve's posts saying that he spends hours and hours and hours on the phone with the manufacturer. I would guess this means they are normally the same but he requests different changes to be added. This would mean that while it is true that they all come from the same manufacturer in china, they're could be a difference in what the manufacturer did, and would mean that they're actually is a difference between brands. I am pretty sure V4L orders enough stuff that the manufacturer would be willing to give a little and change a few things to make Steve happy. This is just a guess though, if I am completely wrong about something feel free to correct me.
Thanks,
Brian
Thanks,
Brian
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Vapure carts won't work on an 808. The threads don't fit. They do however work on any v9 e9 or smoke 51 duo model and yeah they are pretty awesome (I'm puffin one right now)
If I'm not mistaken, Drew actually orders more KR808D-1's from the factory than Steve does. I'm sure Drew knows exactly what the factory will and will not do for him.
That brings to mind 2 more questions, does Drew spend time talking with the factory and adamently request changes? I'm not pro or con V4l or Nhaler, just trying to understand how things work. Want to say I read one of steves posts saying hes spent like 20 or 30 hours a week talking to manufacturers to get different changes made. It could be that requires a lot of headache to persuade the chinese to change stuff, so most suppliers won't take the time to bother, and/or aren't purchasing often enough to be taken seriously. This is just a guess, if I am totally off for x reason let me know.
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Drew is having some special made,so you think maybe Steve does too?I think they both try to take care of us.Dont you?
does Drew spend time talking with the factory and adamently request changes?
I do speak fluent Ping Pong,
but other than that you communicate through email and skype for the most part with most suppliers and they arent ever available cause some other guy is talking to them for 30 hours a week discussing his inventions
...Want to say I read one of steves posts saying hes spent like 20 or 30 hours a week talking to manufacturers to get different changes made.
Wouldnt you want to question how someone could actually spend 80 to 100% of their work week on the phone with China and still run a company?
Ok...my V4L cartomizers came in today so I spent a few hours trying them: V4L, nhaler, and cigeasy. For the test, I had the same flavor in all 3. Freshly charged batteries, and I taped paper around the cartomizers so I wouldn't know which was which.
IMHO...there is absolutely NO difference in them. They ALL have the exact same vapor, which is on the weak side and the exact same taste...definitely DeKang juice. So I had my daughter and son try them, still with the papers on so they couldn't tell whos was whos. (They are both smokers and occasional vaporers) and they said the exact same thing. NO DIFFERENCE!!! none, zero, nada.
So, my test is over. I had to prove it to myself that they are all exactly the same. After hearing over and over how great one was over the other, I just had to know!! Some say I am hard headed that way
Anyway, now, most importantly to me, I know who I can believe and trust and will be doing business with in the future.....please no flames!!
IMHO...there is absolutely NO difference in them.
They ALL have the exact same vapor, which is on the weak side and the exact same taste...definitely DeKang juice. So I had my daughter and son try them, still with the papers on so they couldn't tell whos was whos. (They are both smokers and occasional vaporers) and they said the exact same thing. NO DIFFERENCE!!! none, zero, nada.So, my test is over. I had to prove it to myself that they are all exactly the same. After hearing over and over how great one was over the other, I just had to know!! Some say I am hard headed that way
Anyway, now, most importantly to me, I know who I can believe and trust and will be doing business with in the future.....please no flames!!
Test for how long they last each as well if ya don't mind, would be curious if some last longer/have more juice put in em than others.
thanks laurieok ... i believe i said something similar on the first page of this thread... but now , thanks to you we have evidence. Hopefully people will stop arguing about this now.
Yes,,,,I agree with you as well GG
Yes I know I might have started "drama" but it's just the OCD in me feeling like something MUST be said hehe hence another post by me
heheI can sleep with a clear conscience now reading many posts with the same conclusion as ours....maybe this will stop now? or until it gets recycled again 2 months later...
Its a love/hate relationship with ECF full of information/misinformation drama or not bashing or praising information can not stop traveling through the interwebz hehe
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Folks, I was one of the first kids on the block with a KR808D-1. I've got a lot of experience with them. I've bought KR carts from every vendor discussed here plus a couple others. I've taken dozens of them apart to look at their construction. The bottom line, as many people have said here, all KR cartomizers are the same.
The trouble is that one particular supplier who has a cult following that even Charles Manson would be jealous of, makes claims which simply aren't true. He has been doing this since I first starting reading this forum. In fact, in the early days this supplier would not even admit that he was selling a KR808D-1. Once he finally admitted it he started making his claims that his were better and different. Yet in 6+ months he has never once provided specifics on how his were better or different. Now, what does that tell you?
It has always amazed me how many people have taken his unsubstantiated claims as the gospel truth. But then again, as PT Barnum once said..."There is a sucker born every minute."
So buy your cartomizers from whomever you want, but stop this BS of claiming that some are better or different than others. It's really getting old and tiresome....
The trouble is that one particular supplier who has a cult following that even Charles Manson would be jealous of, makes claims which simply aren't true. He has been doing this since I first starting reading this forum. In fact, in the early days this supplier would not even admit that he was selling a KR808D-1. Once he finally admitted it he started making his claims that his were better and different. Yet in 6+ months he has never once provided specifics on how his were better or different. Now, what does that tell you?
It has always amazed me how many people have taken his unsubstantiated claims as the gospel truth. But then again, as PT Barnum once said..."There is a sucker born every minute."
So buy your cartomizers from whomever you want, but stop this BS of claiming that some are better or different than others. It's really getting old and tiresome....
afaik the older carts had a problem with burning the filler stuff. that git them a bad reputation e.g. in germany, and they were no alternative to greencig this way.
now they are filled some more, but the problem stays the same in my opinion, just later and the manufacturer can blam ethe consumer.
i stopped smoking cigarettes to get rid of inhaling burnt stuff, so these are still a nogo for me. nor any other heating coil thats wrapped in liquid fillermaterial. i opened a tawa cigar, they are very similar build.
for now that leaves either greencig or traditional atomizer on my lungs.
sorry for drifting a bit off
I think you are confusing the deal that Drew finally struck on the GreenCig carts with what can be done on the KR808D-1's.
Different beast.. different manufacturer.
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A few of these people have personality disorders.
Some of the repetitive mechanisms exihbited are manifestations of the personality aspects of addictive disorders.
Some simply have too much free time and need to get a life (off these boards).
Seriously, ALL of us here are nicotine addicts who don't want to smoke cigarettes anymore.
We're the customers of the suppliers (dealers).
They give us what we want (crave, need, etc) - in both product and service.
Actually, aside from custom juices and mods, they give us what is available - from China.
WE CHOOSE FROM WHOM TO BUY.
They in return get OUR MONEY
and they do so by choosing their marketing methods and strategies
- which may include superb personal service, freebies, contests, Specials, Sales,
very simple presentation with lower prices, fan clubs, hype, shills on forums, deception
- whatever they can dream up and try.
Its a MARKET!
Sellers and Buyers. Users and Dealers. Choose your own words.
As several above have said "it's all GOOD"
(N.B - A lot of posts would benefit from review and edit before posting and there is a spell-checker in the editor.)
VAPE ON
A few of these people have personality disorders.
Some of the repetitive mechanisms exihbited are manifestations of the personality aspects of addictive disorders.
Some simply have too much free time and need to get a life (off these boards).
Seriously, ALL of us here are nicotine addicts who don't want to smoke cigarettes anymore.
We're the customers of the suppliers (dealers).
They give us what we want (crave, need, etc) - in both product and service.
Actually, aside from custom juices and mods, they give us what is available - from China.
WE CHOOSE FROM WHOM TO BUY.
They in return get OUR MONEY
and they do so by choosing their marketing methods and strategies
- which may include superb personal service, freebies, contests, Specials, Sales,
very simple presentation with lower prices, fan clubs, hype, shills on forums, deception
- whatever they can dream up and try.
Its a MARKET!
Sellers and Buyers. Users and Dealers. Choose your own words.
As several above have said "it's all GOOD"
(N.B - A lot of posts would benefit from review and edit before posting and there is a spell-checker in the editor.)
VAPE ON
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I am new to cartomizers ( ty grimm)..And have been researching my behind off.. For my own personal reasons I have decided to go with the greencig carts..
I don't care about the battle of fans on whos better then whom...What I DO care about Is why are there no blank greencig carts available?? I've been asking this dang Q everywhere lol.... I mean the 808 carts have blanks....Do no greencig users care or want these?( SPEAK UP! LOL)..I can't imagine I'm the only one interested.
I'm sure that the mods wouldn't mind you jumping in and answering this Q Drew, you sexy lil VAPOR king ( yea ok, I'm sucking up.... sue me lmao - although drews flavors are awesome, tis the massive vapor that keeps me coming back for more)
I WANT BLANK GREEN CARTS AND OR WINSTON GREEN CARTS OR AT LEAST THE WINSTON ELIQUID!! < edited to take the sting out of my bold, capped lil note :: sheepish grin::...:: leaving a trail of bread crumbs:: coooom on, you can answer..I won't bite..Promise :: lil laugh
I don't care about the battle of fans on whos better then whom...What I DO care about Is why are there no blank greencig carts available?? I've been asking this dang Q everywhere lol.... I mean the 808 carts have blanks....Do no greencig users care or want these?( SPEAK UP! LOL)..I can't imagine I'm the only one interested.
I'm sure that the mods wouldn't mind you jumping in and answering this Q Drew, you sexy lil VAPOR king ( yea ok, I'm sucking up.... sue me lmao - although drews flavors are awesome, tis the massive vapor that keeps me coming back for more)
I WANT BLANK GREEN CARTS AND OR WINSTON GREEN CARTS OR AT LEAST THE WINSTON ELIQUID!! < edited to take the sting out of my bold, capped lil note :: sheepish grin::...:: leaving a trail of bread crumbs:: coooom on, you can answer..I won't bite..Promise :: lil laugh
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I have received E9 cartomizers and a 510 kit from Nhaler products and I found that in general: 510 batteries do not last nearly as long as competitors, cartdriges are the cheaper quality kind (hard plastic), atomizers look like stock Bs or the way cheaper kind.
The E9 cartomizers are a joke.
The juice has good flavor though.
The E9 cartomizers are a joke.
The juice has good flavor though.
Huh?
Are you saying that the Joye 510 batteries from NHaler don't last as long as the 510 Joye batteries from other distributors?
And that the Joye 510 cartridges from NHaler are inferior to the Joye 510 cartridges that you can get from other sources?
And that the JOye 510 atomizers from NHaler are different than the Joye 510 atomizers carried by others?
Please expound!
Judging by reading your past posts and your statement here about 510 parts in a thread talikng about a totally different model, I would summize that you are either drunk or just not that smart...Authentic Joye Tech is authentic Joye Tech...SO if your telling the truth, PM me your order # so I can calrify your model # and when exactly did you buy the E-9 carts???
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